Robertqq Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Hello, Thought I'd try "Wacky Worm" rigging for (hopefully) Largemout in a small Pond. Has some "decent" size ones apparently, but Pond is too small for the "monster" Largemouth variety. I guess the Gary Yamamoto worms are the ones to try. Questions: a. Are they really "better" than others ? b. He has several varieties of the plain worms; which style should I try ? The Senko's, or...? c. What Length for my Pond, do you think ? d. Any other Brands/Styles that you would recommend also, that might be a bit cheaper ? Don't want any with Salt; correct ? Thanks, Bob Quote
Arv Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 I use the bass pro stick-o worms. The yum dinger I'd another good option. I think they both produce just as well and are more durable, at least you get more for the price. 5 inch is pretty good for most situations. A 4 inch might be another length to consider if you want. 1 Quote
Super User Darren. Posted May 26, 2014 Super User Posted May 26, 2014 Hey Bob, my .02 to your questions below in red. Hello, Thought I'd try "Wacky Worm" rigging for (hopefully) Largemout in a small Pond. Has some "decent" size ones apparently, but Pond is too small for the "monster" Largemouth variety. I guess the Gary Yamamoto worms are the ones to try. Questions: a. Are they really "better" than others ? Yes...and not necessarily. GYCB Senkos are soft, salty, have phenomenal action on the fall. If you want to get more than 1-3 fish on one senko, consider cutting a small piece of shrink wrap and hook through it, or use an O ring. Personally I fish 90% of the time w/o anything to hook through other than the worm itself. b. He has several varieties of the plain worms; which style should I try ? The Senko's, or...? I like 4" and 5" sizes mostly. Probably have had the most success on the 4" variety. But that's me. c. What Length for my Pond, do you think ? Start out with a 4", but have some 5's in the same colors. d. Any other Brands/Styles that you would recommend also, that might be a bit cheaper ? Definitely! Bass Pro's "Stik-O" worms work very well. Again, I use same sizes, and they come in similar colors to the GYCB Senkos. Don't want any with Salt; correct ? Salt gives the plastic some weight and softness, all of which add to the action when falling. Thus GYCB Senkos are so good, their action is awesome. Quote
flyingmonkie Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 I'm pretty partial to the "ZERO" worms - I think they are made by Strike King... they have Greg Hackney on the package. Incredible action, and super stretchy. They have some crazy compounds in them and will deteriorate in heat, if mixed with other worms, or if you dip them in JJ's. But they catch a ton of fish - I buy them over GYCB. Quote
Hogsticker Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 All the other stick worms I've tried either float or sink way to slow. None have quite the same action as the Senko IMO. They have always worked for me so why switch. Quote
Super User Catt Posted May 27, 2014 Super User Posted May 27, 2014 Try Wacky rigging a Zoom Trick Worm 2 Quote
Fish Murderer 71 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 They both have a different action. Senko (Stick Worms) are lethal. VMC has a Wacky Jig that is an AWESOME jig (I found them at Academy for 5 bucks for 4). This has become my go to set up. I can catch fish in the shallows and the deep all day long. I have found an inexpensive brand (Big Bite), 3 bucks for 10 worms and I use shrink wrap to hook through the worm. The Trick worm is a great change up, it falls slower than stick worm and I usually wait for the second "bump" before I set the hook. The truth be told I only use a wacky worm on my drop shot rig anymore ( 4" Roboworm ). The stick worm is just so effective I dont bother with the trick worm wacky style much... Quote
CYP Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Ive been having very good luck with the Strike King Perfect Plastics Ocho in Honey Candy in clear water. Weedless Trokar 1/0 Wacky Hook. Quote
RatCog Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 I have had good luck with green pumpkin magic using the heat shrink method with 3/0 octopus hooks from gamakatsu. Quote
The Fisher Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 5" senkos on baitcaster, 4" senkos on spinning gear,..baby bass, watermelon black red, green pumpkin purple and copper flake. I use an O Ring tool and rubber O Rings from TW. I find the Senkos will sometimes launch off the hook in midcast without one. Also they help with durability since the pressure is on the rubber not the plastic. Senkos fall different then any other worm I've used including Bass Pro, Yum Dinger ,etc. I use an Owner 1/0 wacky hook without a weed guard. Wacky rigged Senkos deliver almost all the time, especially in ponds. Quote
Theangler1 Posted May 28, 2014 Posted May 28, 2014 I also fish small ponds and to increase the numbers of fish I catch I downsize even more than most of you would. I actually fish a BPS crappie sized 3 inch senko on 6-8 pound flourocarbon. I can catch a ton of fish, but most of them aren't of any size. But when you fight them on light line it is still fun. It is even more fun when you get the 2-3 pounders hitting them. I used to be skeptical that the 3 inchers wouldn't have enough action but boy was I wrong, and plus these ones are $3.29 for 16, a fraction of what you would pay for yamamotos. Quote
CalebJ Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 Of course you don't want any with salt.. Salt= sinkage. Best thing to do is throw it in ur mouth and see if u taste any salt. Some brands say no salt but still have a little bit in there bait Quote
SamTheHam Posted June 3, 2014 Posted June 3, 2014 I would buy one pack of 5 inch senkos watermelon or green pumkin and then buy a a cheaper brand of stick worms. For me I start with the senko and once I get one fish then I switch up to the other brands and try different styles of worms. I see what works and what doesn't. Quote
Hubtech Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 I had a great evening on the lake yesterday using the KVD Ocho's. Could be my new go to. Quote
PersicoTrotaVA Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 I'll use them all except GYCB Senkos. Yum Dinger, KVD Ocho, Jackall Fick Shake, Backwater Tackle T-Floater in several colors of each. The one that kills the most for me is the 5" Yum Dinger in Red Shad on a 1/8 oz wacky jighead. That's in stained to muddy water though, in clear water(not much of that around here) I have a Jackall Flick Shake Worm in Cola color, looks like a real worm. Quote
Drewski73 Posted June 18, 2014 Posted June 18, 2014 Of course you don't want any with salt.. Salt= sinkage. Best thing to do is throw it in ur mouth and see if u taste any salt. Some brands say no salt but still have a little bit in there bait Actually, the exact opposite is true in my experience. When wacky fishing, I always buy salted finese works, or trick worms. And senkos are absolutely loaded with salt. If youre fishing t-rig or shakey, then salt = bad, in my experience. Quote
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