Mhxf Vs Mhf For A Worm/jig Rod

[GADawgs]

I am looking to buy a new plastics/jig rod. I am pairing it with a Lews TP SS 7.1:1. I was pretty set getting a *** black 7'3" MHF. However, I keep getting tempted by the Powell Endurance 714c or Powell endurance 723c. My question is if the XF action on the Powell will be too fast for the type of fishing I will be doing with it paired with 50lb braid. Also, which Powell would suit the type of fishing I am going to do better? Is there a downside to me getting the 714 vs the 723 or vice versa? Most of the weights I will be throwing are going to be 3/4 oz and under but I may occasionally toss weights up to 1 oz. Thanks in advance!

[robster80]

i prefer the xtra fast ive got a powell max. not sure if the tip on the endurance is different

[aavery2]

The F and XF rods will load a little differently, the XF will be just a little stiffer in most cases and may take just a little more weight to load and cast properly.  The weights you have suggested would work fine to load either, and in my experience when using rods of the same series the XF tend to be slightly more sensitive.    The 714 may be a stout enough rod to handle baits up to 1oz but I don't think that most 3 power rods are something that I would want to try and fish that much weight on.  There should be no problem using braid on either of these setups although my line of choice for the given applications would be FC.

[Jeff H]

and in my experience when using rods of the same series the XF tend to be slightly more sensitive.    

 

I find the above comment to be true as well, and that is why I like the XF option in most of my rods,particularly in my finesse rigs. 

[smalljaw67]

Being that you are using 50lb braid, or even braid in general means a fast is better. I have a pitching rod which is what I use for 99% of my jig and worms anymore and it is a 7'2" MH-XF but I use copoly, not braid. The extra fast is nice, a little better sensitivity and it does load differently which is why I pitch with mine, but with braid you need a little more flex to compensate for the no stretch line. A fast will work and sometimes that is too much and you are now seeing a lot of rod makers use mod. fast for flipping rods based on braid use. I think the 7'3" MH-F *** Black will work fine for you, if you were using fluorocarbon or mono then I would go extra fast.

[Arv]

Braid on either powell will be fine. Just set your drag appropriately. Also, either rod will be fine. Just depends on the weights and the cover you are fishing. I had 50# on a 723 and caught plenty of fish

[F14A-B]

Between *** or Powell ? I had a endurance

I currently own a *** heavy.... I like the rod well enough.... Go Powell ! It's a better all over rod..

I had a 775.... It was just a little too soft for me, and for its chosen purpose... It's a very good rod!

The 13? It's ok... Just by no means my fave! It's really just a back up rod to my loomis rods!

I think you're thinking in the right direction, IMO !

[Smallmouth Hunter]

Braid + extra fast action = disaster

[GADawgs]

Thanks for the input, just pulled the trigger on the 714 and a Lews TPSS 7.1:1.

[Jeff H]

Braid + extra fast action = disaster

Hasn't been a problem for me yet, but I understand your concern.  I've got a couple 6'10" Crucial H/XF that I use for slop/heavy cover with 65lb braid and they have been fantastic for me.  Those are the only rods I have with braid on them except for my 7'10" flippin' stick.

[WRB]

The action extra fast isn't a good choice for what you plan to do and 3 power rods are under powered for your application. 4 or 5 power in fast action is correct, 7' to 7'3" is the length range unless you are primarily flipping, then a 7'6" would be easier to use.

Tom

[aavery2]

Braid + extra fast action = disaster

 

What are your concerns, I have not heard of this being a problem.

[aavery2]

The action extra fast isn't a good choice for what you plan to

Why, please elaborate on why an XF rod is not good for Jig and Plastics? 

[Teal]

Braid + extra fast action = disaster

I wish I would have seen this thread earlier today. But I actually got some fishing in...

APRW1, I agree with that statement In theory.... But I have that rod. In fact I have most of the rods made in the Endurance line up... Its my opinion that its not a true extra fast...and those particulqr rods do well with braid...braid is all I use except for cranking and jerks.

To the OP, you will enjoy that rod and that reel. I have that exact same set up and use it for jigs mainly 3/8-3/4

Like Arb said, set your drag a notch or two lower than its supposed to be and i will be just fine

[Jeff H]

What are your concerns, I have not heard of this being a problem.

My guess is he's referring to those who use a hi-power hook set on a slightly slack line with braid.  The only thing I get from something like that is a good jar to the wrist if it's a heavy fish.  I think the rod should take it, but I'm not gonna beat my wrist up like that anyway.  It's his opinion and I'll leave him to it.

 

Why, please elaborate on why an XF rod is not good for Jig and Plastics? 

It IS good for that stuff.  A better question would be....if not good for jigs etc, what ARE they good for?  

[aavery2]

My guess is he's referring to those who use a hi-power hook set on a slightly slack line with braid.  The only thing I get from something like that is a good jar to the wrist if it's a heavy fish.  I think the rod should take it, but I'm not gonna beat my wrist up like that anyway.  It's his opinion and I'll leave him to it.

 

It IS good for that stuff.  A better question would be....if not good for jigs etc, what ARE they good for?  

Unless you are setting the hook on a lot of stumps and rocks, things that are somewhat anchored, I can't see the problem. Setting the drag correctly would also eliminate a lot of this.