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Have any of you guys seen counterfeit senkos? Last year I bought a bunch of senkos on ebay because they were in bulk and were a little bit cheaper than retail. Over the winter I realized some of them do not have GYB marking the egg sack part of the worm. Is this marking only on the newer senkos?

I was watching Crime Inc. on msnbc last night and it was all about counterfeit goods. I figured heck if they are making counterfeit extension cords why wouldnt they make fake senkos that sell for just under a dollar a worm. Maybe I am just paranoid  :)

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I have some that were bought from local retailers with and without the markings. I also have Kinami Flash with and without the GYB markings. They're probably fine.

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If they catch fish I wouldn't worry about if the ones you already have are real or not. If you have any doubts, just buy from somewhere else next time

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I recently bought a bunch from Ebay too. 7 packs for $20 shipped.

None had the GYCB marking, and seemed a little longer and a little thinner than the actual senkos (I had some from last season). They tasted salty enough though, I actually licked them :)

When I threw one into the water, it sank as fast as a real senko, at least I couldn't tell a difference. But the Ebay one had slightly more shimmy on the fall.

So I contacted the seller, but he swore they were original yamamoto baits.

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If they were hand poured or hand injected you would know the difference.  I can come real close to the sink rate and wiggle of senko, but you can never match there plastic. Plus the top of the senko would be cut off from the mold and a real senko has a little indent in the top

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If they came in a bag marked as GYBC, then maybe the thing to do would be to send a bag (and the purchase info.) to the man himself.

I'm sure Mr. Yamamoto would be glad that somebody clued him into a possible problem. 

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I seem to have the best luck with senkos and the kinami flash but have caught fish on other brands. Yum dingers, SK ochos, etc. I bought one of those 50 packs of "senkos" from eBay and they were definitely not the real deal  so I use them for pond fishing and they do fine. I save the real deals for tournaments!!

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It must be something new cuz I 've got a huge bunch of packs of GYCB Senkos and none nave that GYCB mark on the eggsack you are talking about, Kinamis do have the wave.

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I recently bought a bunch from Ebay too. 7 packs for $20 shipped.

None had the GYCB marking, and seemed a little longer and a little thinner than the actual senkos (I had some from last season). They tasted salty enough though, I actually licked them :)

So I contacted the seller, but he swore they were original yamamoto baits.

HAHA I tasted mine too! Actually did a taste comparison and they tasted pretty salty haha. And of course they swore they were the original baits its highly illegal to conterfeit goods! For a price that cheap I would be highly suspicious.

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I recently bought a bunch from Ebay too. 7 packs for $20 shipped.

None had the GYCB marking, and seemed a little longer and a little thinner than the actual senkos (I had some from last season). They tasted salty enough though, I actually licked them :)

So I contacted the seller, but he swore they were original yamamoto baits.

HAHA I tasted mine too! Actually did a taste comparison and they tasted pretty salty haha. And of course they swore they were the original baits its highly illegal to conterfeit goods! For a price that cheap I would be highly suspicious.

I should have worded that differently. I bought 70 senkos (or senko style baits), all of the same color, and they came in a ziploc bag, and I paid 20$ shipped.

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I think senko has come to mean any bic pen style worm, not just the GYCB one. Unless the seller specified GYCB, then I would assume they were another brand, or maybe homemade. Not necessarily a bad thing, I have bought some really nice homemade soft baits on ebay.

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You can tell, like someone said, by the tip.  It'll be dimpled for the real deal, anything else is a copy, and  yeah, there are counterfeit that are sold as GYCB.  There's a guy here in NE that is guilty of it.

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how's the action on them?

I find with the real ones, when you wacky rig weightless, the two ends quiver during the fall... Gambler senkos also displays the same action...

another thing I also notice is that the GYB has a softer/mushier plastic

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You can tell, like someone said, by the tip. It'll be dimpled for the real deal, anything else is a copy, and yeah, there are counterfeit that are sold as GYCB. There's a guy here in NE that is guilty of it.

Yea the seller claimed they are GYBC and they came in yamamoto bags. I will check them out for the dimples. Good advice.

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I also started comparing the yamamoto craws that I bought on ebay and I notice that there are some differences. For example on some of them they have long antennae and others short antennae. Now I wonder if this is a change them made over the years or if I got tricked again!  >:)

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I also started comparing the yamamoto craws that I bought on ebay and I notice that there are some differences. For example on some of them they have long antennae and others short antennae. Now I wonder if this is a change them made over the years or if I got tricked again! >:)

They could be seconds.

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The senkos have a distinct smell as well as action like no other. They are heavily salted and a bit mushy compared to other brands.

I bought a pack of senkos from a local tackle shop which didn't have the markings on the egg sack, but they fish exactly like the senko.

Here is a picture of the 4" senkos I bought this year at BPS compared to last year. There is a small size difference.

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As I said, it must be a new thing senkos having marks on the eggsack I can 't say because it 's been a while since I purchased senkos ( notice I say senkos, real GYCB senkos ), those you purchased came in a GYCB bag, mine don 't have any marks on the eggsack so those senkos could be old senkos ( like mine ) before they came with the marks on the eggsack and not necessarily fake senkos.

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