Fluorocarbon with jerkbaits?

[Rangerphil]

Just wondering if you guys have ever used fluro with jerkbaits? I have always used mono but thought maybe the fluro would help get it a little deeper?

[Mr SwimJig]

Fluorocarbon is great for jerk baits and yes it does help get the lure down a little deeper and help keep it there.  The lighter the line the deeper.

SJ

[Hartertj]

Flouro is great when you want to get a little more depth out of your jerk baits. When I use flouro for any treble hook bait I make sure that my rod has some give to it, this will prevent the hooks from tearing out.

[Rangerphil]

That is what I am worried about!

[Hartertj]

You will be fine as long as you use the proper rod.

[=Matt 5.0=]

Just wondering if you guys have ever used fluro with jerkbaits? I have always used mono but thought maybe the fluro would help get it a little deeper?

Yes.

[bassman31783]

I'm with everyone else here.  I switched to fluoro a while back for my jerkbait fishing & I'm not going back to mono now.

[roadwarrior]

There is another thread going...

The answer, according to top professionals...

NO.

http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?num=1300039807/2#2

8-)

[Rangerphil]

Road warrior, is there any particular reasons they say no? I think tearing the hooks out would be the problem, but KVD uses fluro for his cranks so....... :-/

[RandySBreth]

Well, according to some "Top Pro's" who actually have won using jerkbaits just recently, the answer is yes.

The key part of the story is:

"While the Vision 110 (Pro Blue) was his primary lure, Thrift also weighed in a few keepers this week on a bluegill-colored Damiki DC-200 crankbait. Both were tied to 10-pound Berkley Trilene 100% fluorocarbon."

 

I actually like superline with a fluoro leader, but I'm not a "top pro" so I guess that doesn't count for much.

[Craiger12]

Flouro is great when you want to get a little more depth out of your jerk baits. When I use flouro for any treble hook bait I make sure that my rod has some give to it, this will prevent the hooks from tearing out.

Why would the hooks tear out with fluoro? (please don't say it's because of less stretch...)

[Rangerphil]

Well..... Not only that but I think being so sensitive that may set hook too fast... If that makes any sense :-/

[ripinthem]

I like 10lb trilene flouro 100%, as well. It makes the baits look more natural, and has less upward drag. You get better feel and a better hook-set with flouro, just set your drag a little lighter, and you won't have any problems with fish pulling off.

[Hooligan]

So, uh, yeah.  If you like your jerkbait to hang vertically in the water column, go ahead and use fluorocarbon line.   

But seriously, don't.  RoadWarrior already posted the link to the other thread.  Iaconelli's article can be found here: http://www.mikeiaconelli.com/article.php?id=9

"McClelland said he prefers the McRip 85 for cold-water and pre-spawn conditions, working the bait on 8- to 12-pound Sunline monofilament."  "The worst jerkbait season I ever had was when fluorocarbon first came out and I thought I didn't need mono anymore. But I realized after that just how important monofilament line can be."

http://fishpaa.com/2011/02/pull-em-up-with-deep-jerkbaits/

Good advice, if you ask me.

[breezy]

I prefer mono but have used fluorocarbon when other baits are tied on rigs with mono etc. It does give the lure a different action but I wouldn't necessarily say it was bad.

As for pulling the hooks out with fluoro I wouldn't worry about it. There have been plenty of tests that show fluorocarbon has about the same amount of stretch as monofilament. Unless you're using braid I think this has more to do with the action/power on the rod than line.

[Stingray23]

fluoro for me

[rubba bubba]

So, uh, yeah. If you like your jerkbait to hang vertically in the water column, go ahead and use fluorocarbon line.

Although this is a wee bit exaggerated, I looked through a bunch of books of mine and did find a KVD quote where he, too, preferred mono for jerkbaits.  He said he preferred the action mono gave it.

[Bassn Blvd]

So let me get this straight, the main reason for using flouro with jerkabaits is to get the jerkbait to dive deeper?

I'm going to have to hoist up the flag on this one.  How much deeper is #15 flouro going to get your jerkbait down compared to #15 mono?

IMO, flouro is WAY over rated and used in place of self confidence and know how.

[Hooligan]

Rubba, it isn't exaggerated by much, really.  I played with it the other day after reading the other thread.  With 14lb fluoro a Pointer 100 would stand on it's nose, as did an Xrap10, Vision and Squadminnow weren't as exaggerated as the others, it was more a downward tilt at maybe 35 degrees.

[Quillback]

I use 10 lb Invisix and have no problem with downward pointed baits or slowly sinking baits.  I can modify the baits if I want to make them slowly sink.  I've had excellent success catching bass this winter on jerkbaits using Invisix.  I'm not saying mono doesn't work, but if you think you can't catch bass on floro using jerkbaits you're mistaken - and I base that on personal experience, not on watching some pro on a DVD. 

[Hartertj]

When using trebel hooks its important to use a rod with some give to it. Its not so much that the line stretch is that much different, but a stiff rod can pull out trebel hooks.

[Rangerphil]

Thanks guys, I think I am going to stay with mono! If it is not broke do not fix it!M ;D

[rubba bubba]

Rubba, it isn't exaggerated by much, really. I played with it the other day after reading the other thread. With 14lb fluoro a Pointer 100 would stand on it's nose, as did an Xrap10, Vision and Squadminnow weren't as exaggerated as the others, it was more a downward tilt at maybe 35 degrees.

I'm not sure if you're saying the end result with fluoro was about 35 degrees down or if it was worse than that. I use fluoro with my jerkbaits and have never had anything remotely close to the vertical nose down issue you describe. My longest pauses might be 7 seconds, so the fluoro doesn't sink fast enough to cause what you described. It may increase the tilt some over mono, but I found that was more due to mono's preference to float, it would pull up the nose more than fluoro would pull down the nose. Just my experience with 100's and 75's.

[EastTexasBassin]

I only use braid for jerkbaits now.  It seems to allow a much 'wider' and more erratic action.  Haven't had any problem with hooks being 'torn out' and I haven't seen the need for any kind of leader.

[Quillback]

Rubba, it isn't exaggerated by much, really. I played with it the other day after reading the other thread. With 14lb fluoro a Pointer 100 would stand on it's nose, as did an Xrap10, Vision and Squadminnow weren't as exaggerated as the others, it was more a downward tilt at maybe 35 degrees.

I'm not sure if you're saying the end result with fluoro was about 35 degrees down or if it was worse than that. I use fluoro with my jerkbaits and have never had anything remotely close to the vertical nose down issue you describe. My longest pauses might be 7 seconds, so the fluoro doesn't sink fast enough to cause what you described. It may increase the tilt some over mono, but I found that was more due to mono's preference to float, it would pull up the nose more than fluoro would pull down the nose. Just my experience with 100's and 75's.

I haven't seen the nose down thing either with my Flit's, McSticks, McRips, Megabass, or pointers when using Invisix 10#.  Every one in a while I will have a jerkbait that will slowly rise (again using Invisix), if that's the case I can fix it using a suspend dot or two.