Eternal Angler Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 Man oh man, I can't find a 1/4 oz or 3/8 oz round jig head that has a good hook. I prefer unpainted round jig heads, but I will go with black painted jig heads.The main thing, a good barb!!!!I do not like Gamakatsu hooks, this passed week I've lossed 3 big fish. Pike and largemouth!!! The fish just shake their head loose because there barbs aren't very good!Gamakatsu hooks are strong and super sharp, which I love, but the barb thing is disappointing. You can read this article to, I'm not the only onehttp://neangling.com/faq/mustad-vs-gamakats/If anyone can point me to a retailer that has round jig heads with good strong hooks and a decent car, please do so, I would greatly appreciate it.Now I gotta take these Gamakatsu hooks back to Bass Pro Shops. I picked up some John Peterson's jig heads with Matzuo hooks that have good barbs, but they are lacking strength. These Matzuo hooks easily been, I just can't win! Quote
Super User WRB Posted May 3, 2014 Super User Posted May 3, 2014 Do you consider Owner hooks have a big enough barb to satisfy your need? Siebert, Yamamoto and *** and others mfr’s offer jigs with Owner hooks (#5304). I would suggest the problem may be the person holding the rod may be the problem! Consider this fact; over 300 DD bass caught on a jig with Gamakatsu #114 size 5/0 jig hook, 5 top bass are 17.4, 17.4, 17.6 18.6 and 19.3 pounds,by me. I have not farmed a bass in decades due to hook barb failure. Tom Quote
BuckMaxx Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 I got some long shank VMC #2 heads that I make for bitsy tubes in 1/4. If interested I'd make some up for ya PM me. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted May 3, 2014 Super User Posted May 3, 2014 Do you consider Owner hooks have a big enough barb to satisfy your need? Siebert, Yamamoto and *** and others mfr’s offer jigs with Owner hooks (#5304). I would suggest the problem may be the person holding the rod may be the problem! Consider this fact; over 300 DD bass caught on a jig with Gamakatsu #114 size 5/0 jig hook, 5 top bass are 17.4, 17.4, 17.6 18.6 and 19.3 pounds,by me. I have not farmed a bass in decades due to hook barb failure. Tom No question in my mind. Are some jig heads better than others, sure but even the cheapest are more than satisfactory. I make many of my jigs on a Walmart round 1/8 jig head, I catch a lot of bass and peacocks with them. It's well known I'm primarily a saltwater fisherman, flukes on a jig head is one of my main staples, I use them everyday. As of late my favorite jig is a Strike King redfish jig 2/0 hook, I like DOA's too, but i a pinch I use 1/4 oz Walmarts, they do not let me down for snook, tarpon and jacks, we get some size to these fish, they aren't shabby in the fight department either. No one lands every fish that jumps, but if one knows what they are doing they will land more. Do we not have people flattening out the barbs these days? Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted May 3, 2014 Posted May 3, 2014 If its the barb you are concerned with, bend it out more. Matzuo hooks are made by South Bend and possibly the worst hooks made. Quote
Super User Teal Posted May 3, 2014 Super User Posted May 3, 2014 Operator error or bad combo of rod and line for jig hook sets. Plenty of jigs of mine have gammy hooks and I don't have a problem. It sounds like you have a problem driving the hook home. The right rod and line coupled with a correct hookset should set you up so that when u set the hook, its in deep enough that the barb is the least of your worries. I cannot comprehend that the barb on the Gammy hook is causing you lose fish. Even if it is A reason, its not the only reason. I catch too many nice jig fish that have gammys to think that the barb is a issue Quote
Super User Scott F Posted May 4, 2014 Super User Posted May 4, 2014 In Manitoba, where barbless hook are required, I've caught a great number of pike, walleye and lake trout on lures with no barb at all and seldom lost any fish. I don't think the barb on the hook is your problem. Quote
1234567 Posted May 4, 2014 Posted May 4, 2014 Sieberts extreme shakey. Excellent hook. I have over 150 of them and they have not failed me.yet. Quote
frantzracing0 Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 You should be the one keeping the fish hooked up, not the barb. Youre letting the fish control the game, giving him to much slack line Quote
Mattfrom_NJ Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 No question in my mind. Are some jig heads better than others, sure but even the cheapest are more than satisfactory. I make many of my jigs on a Walmart round 1/8 jig head, I catch a lot of bass and peacocks with them. It's well known I'm primarily a saltwater fisherman, flukes on a jig head is one of my main staples, I use them everyday. As of late my favorite jig is a Strike King redfish jig 2/0 hook, I like DOA's too, but i a pinch I use 1/4 oz Walmarts, they do not let me down for snook, tarpon and jacks, we get some size to these fish, they aren't shabby in the fight department either. No one lands every fish that jumps, but if one knows what they are doing they will land more. Do we not have people flattening out the barbs these days? Most people recommend crushing barbs on bucktails when fishing for stripers in the northeast. One author I read up on claims barbs prevent solid hook sets but who knows. I crush mine and and I'm not sure whether I hook more bc of it but it makes the hook come out easily, which is nice when you unhook something with teeth. Quote
Henryham1 Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 Use Shakey Head brand jig heads and get over the thought that Gamakatsu hooks have bad barbs. They don't. I fish 5 days a week during the summer with a shakey head and I haven't had a single problem with Gamakatsu hooks. If you don't like them, then open a blacksmithing shop and make your own hooks. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 Pm me what your looking for with what hook. I know I can make a round ball with Mustad Ultra points and I can get Owners also. These will be a 4/0 hook with 45-60 deg bends. Quote
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