Owner vs Gamakatsu

[Raul]

Raul.....thanks for that explanation. It makes very good sense especially as explained from the standpoint of your professional experience. I for one had no idea there were different types of points....pretty interesting stuff.

Now I have one complaint....why do you keep giving that monkey my address...he's knocking on my door again ;D ;D ;D

I ain 't giving the monkey your adress, he already has it, he got it the moment you got your first rod and I 'm not the one to blame, I had nothing to do about it so don 't shoot the messenger. The only thing I 'm doing is expanding your monkey 's horizons.  

My only beef with Owner is that they manufacture less models than Gammy and .... dammit ! they don 't manufacture thin wire hooks in the styles and sizes I prefer  >. I fish with lots of thin soft plastic baits like Zoom 's Finesse worms and them thick wire hooks turn them into mush just in during the rigging process.  :

[ww2farmer]

I have been using Gamakatsu almost exclusivly for as long as I can remember (except for one ill advised attempt to use BPS XPS hooks). Never had any issues with them. I have tried the owners too, and truthfully, I had no better (or worse) hook up % with them over the gammys. I am a hook setting fool, and use low stretch lines/and or fast rods for soft plastics. I could see where the owners would have an advantage on mono line, and with soft rods, but I'll save the extra buck or two, keep buying gammys and not worry about it.

[senile1]

Exactly Avid.

Here 's a little explanation on how the shape of the point can make a world of difference: in my daily practice I use sutures, sutures that come with needle, needles are different depending upon what you are going to stictch, we have needles for everything BUT skin and needles for skin. What 's the difference, well, skin is anything but soft so the shape of the point is different.

Needles for everything have a CONICAL POINT, while needles for skin have CUTTING EDGE POINT, what 's the difference ? try to drive a conical point needle through skin and it will penetrate if you use a lot of muscle, do the same with a cutting edge point needle and it 's a piece of cake, you don 't need to apply a lot of muscle to make the needle go through the skin, why ? because while a conical point has to separate the tissue the cutting edge point SLICES through it.

Needles and hooks have the exact same application, to penetrate tissue, which one you think does a better job after the explanation, conical or cutting edge ? Gammys are conical head hooks, owners Cutting edge are cutting edge hooks.

So don 't let your supposedly brand loyalty cloud your vision, in the pure aspect of function Gammys are sharp I 'm not denying it but Owner 's cutting edge hooks have superior hook penetration than Gammys hands down. And not only that, they cut through the toughest baits effortlessly.

Excellent treatise Doctor  

That was a nice explanation, Raul.  Thanks.

[Syfer420]

I have literally tried most the other hooks avid mentioned and as he so eloquently put it gamis loose there sharpness after one or two fish not quality in my book >. And Sal i think you misunderstood, the cutting edge is what Raul said was easier to set the hook becuase of its thin to thick blade like edge as oppsed to gammis conical shape. If gammis are hunting knives i think owners cutting edge are Katana's made form japanese steel

P.S. wow raul what a crazy post, that was one of the most informative, well put, post ive read so far

[Catt]

While Raul's explanation is outstanding I prefer to be more visual

[Siebert Outdoors]

Catt,  thats exactly what I thought of too.  It was in my original unmodified post.  But I edited it.  

Gammis are the best hook for the price they are at.  BUT they are not the best hook

[bassmaster8100]

Gamakatsu does the trick for me.

[.ghoti.]

I used Gammy's for everything until last year. Tried some Owner cutting edge, and they are easier to set. I still use Gammy's because Owner does not have all the shapes and sizes I want. I also use Sugoi's, Mustad, Daiichi, and some others.

If Owner made some light wire hooks, I might not use any other brand.

Cheers,

GK

[hi_steel_basser]

I have been a Mustad lover for years. Recently bought a few packs of Gamis. Have yet to try Owners' hooks. Here, monkey, monkey, monkey.