Browns7213 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Hey All, Just joined the forum and my wife and I are brand new to fishing. We live on a small cove on a lake in middle GA with depths ranging from 4'-9'. The lake is man made and varies in color from dark green to chocolate milk brown. We fish off our dock and shoreline and have learned any type of sinking lure that goes below 6 feet gets snagged on the something, most likely dead trees. We've lost quite a few lures getting the lay of the land per se. Due to the shallow depth we have been using some poppers, some Rapala lures that stay between 4-6 feet and some jigs with a bobber to keep them from getting snagged. So far we've only been able to hook one large large mouth, every other fish we have caught has been a blue catfish. There are plenty of bass in the cove, as I see them swimming around the dock, but for whatever reason they are not biting. Can you recommend some bait or tactics that we can try to improve our chances of catching more bass and less catfish? Thanks in advance for any advice. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 29, 2014 Super User Posted April 29, 2014 Both Siebert Outdoors and NorthStar Custom Baits make a great swim jigs. I especially like the bluegill patterns with a Rage Menace or Shellcracker trailer. Another suggestion that is red hot right now is the Rage Cut-R worm. Rig this with the tail down and swim it. Shallow crankbaits are another option. This years "hot lure" is the DT6, but my favorite is still the Norman Fat Boy (redear pattern). Topwater lures should be coming into play (Zara Spook, Sammy, Pop-R) and if you just keep it shallow, spinnerbaits should work, too. The MegaStrike Cavitron is something you should try. We sometimes overlook the old standards. Have you tried an Original Floating Rapala? Jitterbug? Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted April 29, 2014 Super User Posted April 29, 2014 The Gary Yamamoto Senko is a great way to start out. There is plenty of info on it here. The first link has basic info and the second is a pathway to so much more. Good Luck A-Jay http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/senko.html http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/12401-senko-faq- look-here-first/ 1 Quote
HeavyFisher Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 The Gary Yamamoto Senko is a great way to start out. There is plenty of info on it here. This right here, very ez to use and ez to catch fish on. Quote
deadadrift89 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 Texas rig a worm or craw. Also try a weightless fluke. Quote
frantzracing0 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 a jig with a bobber? I have never heard of such a thing Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 29, 2014 Super User Posted April 29, 2014 a jig with a bobber? I have never heard of such a thing http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/float-n-fly.html Quote
frantzracing0 Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 http://www.bassresource.com/fishing/float-n-fly.html Thanks RW, learn something new every day Quote
Browns7213 Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 Well thanks for all the ideas and recommendations, will need to sort through all the fishing jargon that is totally new to us. Will try and answer some of the additional questions. Have you tried an Original Floating Rapala? Jitterbug? - Nope. I had these in my tackle box as a young boy, but have not reacquired those 2 lures. a jig with a bobber? I have never heard of such a thing - We were trying to keep the jig from hooking the debris on the bottom, had no idea this was actually a technique used by real fishermen Quote
flyingmonkie Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 The stuff you are losing your lures on is the stuff that the bass are attracted too! Don't avoid it! Do some quick research on the Texas Rig - it's one of the most popular bass techniques (and my personal favorite). Endless possibilities, easy to fish, and the gear is cheap enough that you don't get PO'd when you break a line. That being said, done right, you can fish a T-Rig in dead trees all day without losing it. Quote
Super User Crestliner2008 Posted April 30, 2014 Super User Posted April 30, 2014 - We were trying to keep the jig from hooking the debris on the bottom, had no idea this was actually a technique used by real fishermen Real fishermen will try anything! 1 Quote
Browns7213 Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 The stuff you are losing your lures on is the stuff that the bass are attracted too! Don't avoid it! Do some quick research on the Texas Rig - it's one of the most popular bass techniques (and my personal favorite). Endless possibilities, easy to fish, and the gear is cheap enough that you don't get PO'd when you break a line. That being said, done right, you can fish a T-Rig in dead trees all day without losing it. Way ahead of you. YouTubed Texas Rig last night and excited to get some hooks and some plastics to try it out. That may just save me thousands of dollars. My neighbor owns a dredging company and suggested he could clean up our fishing hole for a few, okay many thousands of dollars! Quote
Browns7213 Posted April 30, 2014 Author Posted April 30, 2014 Both Siebert Outdoors and NorthStar Custom Baits make a great swim jigs. I especially like the bluegill patterns with a Rage Menace or Shellcracker trailer. Another suggestion that is red hot right now is the Rage Cut-R worm. Rig this with the tail down and swim it. Shallow crankbaits are another option. This years "hot lure" is the DT6, but my favorite is still the Norman Fat Boy (redear pattern). Topwater lures should be coming into play (Zara Spook, Sammy, Pop-R) and if you just keep it shallow, spinnerbaits should work, too. The MegaStrike Cavitron is something you should try. We sometimes overlook the old standards. Have you tried an Original Floating Rapala? Jitterbug? Okay after lots of googling last night to find out what all these things are, turns out we have most of them! The tackle box was put together by a guy at BassPro, so looks like he actually knew what he was talking about. We plan to use the Texas Rig and see how that works out this weekend,but one question still remains. Are there baits that will only attract bass and not catfish?? Quote
frogflogger Posted April 30, 2014 Posted April 30, 2014 A wacky rigged senko or trick worm type or cut a senko in half and stick a light (1/16th) jighead in it and fish any of these on a bobber - very effective - on windy days it is a surefire killer. Been doing this with plastic and marabou for over 50 yrs. still deadly anywhere bass are in relatively shallow water. Quote
Super User bigbill Posted April 30, 2014 Super User Posted April 30, 2014 A split shot rigged plastic worm, in black or purple or natural. I prefer black 6". Quote
frantzracing0 Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 Way ahead of you. YouTubed Texas Rig last night and excited to get some hooks and some plastics to try it out. That may just save me thousands of dollars. My neighbor owns a dredging company and suggested he could clean up our fishing hole for a few, okay many thousands of dollars! I would kick him for even suggesting that lol people spend hours looking for the cover (those dead trees you are trying to avoid) on a lake. Embrace it, thats where the fish are Quote
Super User bigbill Posted May 1, 2014 Super User Posted May 1, 2014 Some here put old Christmas trees on the ice so we have better structure in the spring. Quote
Hyrule Bass Posted May 1, 2014 Posted May 1, 2014 i would fish weightless t-rigs with various soft plastic baits. less likely to get snagged without the weight. fish them slow through the stumps/timber. Quote
Browns7213 Posted May 5, 2014 Author Posted May 5, 2014 UPDATE: We tried the Texas rigs and they worked great, but only for a short period of time. I rigged a weightless fluke as recommended on my pole and a weighted worm on my wife's pole. After A few casts I hooked a 2-3 pound largemouth and my wife caught a small catfish. We used the technique described of casting, letting the bait sink, lifting the rod and letting it sink again. But after a few casts my line inexplicably broke near my pole not near the lure. A few moments later the same thing happened to my wife's line. Any idea why this would have happened? Is this fishing technique not viable on our cheap Zebco reels? Quote
Wunder Posted May 5, 2014 Posted May 5, 2014 UPDATE: We tried the Texas rigs and they worked great, but only for a short period of time. I rigged a weightless fluke as recommended on my pole and a weighted worm on my wife's pole. After A few casts I hooked a 2-3 pound largemouth and my wife caught a small catfish. We used the technique described of casting, letting the bait sink, lifting the rod and letting it sink again. But after a few casts my line inexplicably broke near my pole not near the lure. A few moments later the same thing happened to my wife's line. Any idea why this would have happened? Is this fishing technique not viable on our cheap Zebco reels? Your line might be being frayed for the abrasive underwater trees and then breaking off Quote
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