thediscochef Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Junk Fisherman said: There is a popular lock by me and in the summer you might have 10-15 boats waiting to lock through. Usually, you have some boat blasting their music even though most of us don't care for it. Turn it down. Have some respect for others. this right here is pretty uncool it's one thing to blast your music while your engine is making many RPMs. it's another thing to subject innocent bystanders to the vocal crimes of david lee roth while we're all just trying to get somewhere. there's this one guy at ray roberts, wake boater. See him a lot in the summer. has a knack for not turning his stereo down until it's his turn at the ramp. so he's just parked in the no-wake zone giving everyone a free concert of the worst garbage you ever heard. i would love to have a knack for stealthily demagnetizing speakers that belong to people like that... 1 Quote
Derek1 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: I always wanted one of those things they summoned flipper in with Holy smokes, that’s a blast from the past. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted January 9, 2023 Just now, Derek1 said: Holy smokes, that’s a blast from the past. Hey man I’m not even 40 and yes I’ve swam in Jean shorts 1 Quote
Derek1 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: Hey man I’m not even 40 and yes I’ve swam in Jean shorts Reminds me of the image of my father at the beach when I was a kid. The pockets on the Jean shorts were longer then the shorts themselves. Not cool man, not cool. 3 Quote
Dogface Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Deleted account said: In this context these two statements can't both be true. Sure they can. They have documented bass can feel vibrations. I have never seen a test regarding bass and fishing line. Bass and colors and other objects yes but not a fishing line. But the real question is can bass feel vibrations from music generated by a radio in a boat and does it affect them in any way? Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted January 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dogface said: Sure they can. They have documented bass can feel vibrations. I have never seen a test regarding bass and fishing line. Bass and colors and other objects yes but not a fishing line. But the real question is can bass feel vibrations from music generated by a radio in a boat and does it affect them in any way? I’ve seen bass scare away from fishing line before it even landed in the water and so have other members 1 Quote
Super User Bird Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 Why do you y'all think the " Bass " guitar became so popular ? If it was named after a fish, they must like it. 2 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 36 minutes ago, Dogface said: I have never seen a test regarding bass and fishing line. There is tons (haven't actually weighed it) of academic research on LMB vision. 1 Quote
Big Hands Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 equals this: There might not be law against it and there might possibly be someone nearby that occasionally enjoys it, but probably not. 1 3 Quote
Dogface Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, Deleted account said: There is tons (haven't actually weighed it) of academic research on LMB vision. Yes, but have you ever read a study that specifically addresses fishing lines? I cannot recall one. 36 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: I’ve seen bass scare away from fishing line before it even landed in the water and so have other members We know fish react to aerial predators. So were the fish reacting to the fishing line or the shadow or movement of the line anticipating a threat? BTW we are getting off the subject. Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted January 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Dogface said: Yes, but have you ever read a study that specifically addresses fishing lines? I cannot recall one. We know fish react to aerial predators. So were the fish reacting to the fishing line or the shadow or movement of the line anticipating a threat? BTW we are getting off the subject. I probably have, I’ve read enough scientific “studies” to fill Up a dozen university libraries concerning fish and wildlife. I consider most of them a massive waste of masters students time and money. The squirrels and bass never actually say why they did anything the only issue is that nobody realizes this until a decade or so after graduation 2 1 Quote
Super User DitchPanda Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: I probably have, I’ve read enough scientific “studies” to fill Up a dozen university libraries concerning fish and wildlife. I consider most of them a massive waste of masters students time and money. The squirrels and bass never actually say why they did anything the only issue is that nobody realizes this until a decade or so after graduation 100% agree. There is a lot of good info out there...and there's even more clever trickery that is nothing more than job\degree justification. You know this definitive indisputable fact stuff written by a person who has never had a real job or real life experience to validate any of their popcorn fart realizations. 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 29 minutes ago, Dogface said: Yes, but have you ever read a study that specifically addresses fishing lines? No, because most scientists don't care about that, but fishing line isn't Mount Olympus spun magic thread, that behaves differently than other things. It is designed to minimize visibility in most cases, but it doesn't stand out from other things in some special way. 35 minutes ago, Dogface said: We know fish react to aerial predators. So were the fish reacting to the fishing line or the shadow or movement of the line anticipating a threat? The sudden unexpected movement in it's direction... Quote
Big Hands Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 When it comes to absolutes in bass behavior, nothing is rarely always never a certainty. Yes, you can quote me on that because I promise you that I doubt anyone has ever said that before. 2 4 Quote
Super User gim Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 If someone else can hear your music, its too loud. I don't care if you have an outboard running. That doesn't justify blasting music for all to hear. Earbuds solve the problem and still allow you to listen to your tunes. I'll leave the visibility thing alone on the fishing line. This thread is about radios, music, and other noise you create on the water. Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 i like it quiet. however. one time, heading deep deep into a skunk city. a boat full of buxum beauties came by BLARING music. they were playing City of New Orleans, by Willie Nelson. talk about a jolt of energy. we stood up straighter, eyes brighter, pedaled our kayaks with purpose, casted more accurately and finished that skunk with enthusiasm. i still like it quiet. 2 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Darth-Baiter said: i like it quiet. however. one time, heading deep deep into a skunk city. a boat full of buxum beauties came by BLARING music. they were playing City of New Orleans, by Willie Nelson. talk about a jolt of energy. we stood up straighter, eyes brighter, pedaled our kayaks with purpose, casted more accurately and finished that skunk with enthusiasm. i still like it quiet. In the words of willie in that very song, ? pass the paper bag that holds the bottle ? 1 Quote
Super User Darth-Baiter Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, TnRiver46 said: In the words of willie in that very song, ? pass the paper bag that holds the bottle ? hahaha...i think you got that right!! all i know is that it is about a train. Quote
Super User Bankc Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 I've seen days where any sound can shut them down. I've seen days where they don't care about sounds. I've even seen a guy beat on the water with a paddle and tell me it was to scare the fish away, so that when they came back in a few minutes, they'd be more active and curious. And it worked! In all of my years of fishing, there's really only one thing I can say with 100% certainty. Boat owners have the absolute worst tastes in music! 2 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Derek1 said: Reminds me of the image of my father at the beach when I was a kid. The pockets on the Jean shorts were longer then the shorts themselves. Not cool man, not cool. Now I gotta google pixs of Mary Ann and Daisy Duke to try to get that out of my head... 2 Quote
Derek1 Posted January 9, 2023 Posted January 9, 2023 55 minutes ago, Deleted account said: Now I gotta google pixs of Mary Ann and Daisy Duke to try to get that out of my head... Yeah, your not kidding. Quote
Super User Sam Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 The bass is a very inquisitive animal, and will listen to the noise coming from your boat. In fact, I would not be surprised if Hook and Look did a show on how playing your radios and sound systems impact the bass' behavior. I read an article a long time ago about a guy who was constructing his dock and had to pound a metal rod into the bottom during construction. He went into the water, lined up the rod, and using a heavy hammer, he started to pound the rod into the bottom mud. He said he felt something watching him as he pounded away. Just a feeling until he turned around and saw about 20 bass hovering 10 feet from him, watching what he was doing. They were attracted by the vibration of hammering the pole into the bottom mud. Now begs the question: do radio and other noises travel from their source into the water and alert all water creatures you are there? And if so, does the noise bother the bass? I would think Dr. Keith Jones book, Knowing Bass, The Scientific Approach to Catching More Fish, would hold the answer, but there is a football game on tonight so I will try to see what Dr. Jones says about the bass' hearnig and vibration detection. Will let you know what I find out. 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 9, 2023 Global Moderator Posted January 9, 2023 24 minutes ago, Sam said: The bass is a very inquisitive animal, and will listen to the noise coming from your boat. In fact, I would not be surprised if Hook and Look did a show on how playing your radios and sound systems impact the bass' behavior. I read an article a long time ago about a guy who was constructing his dock and had to pound a metal rod into the bottom during construction. He went into the water, lined up the rod, and using a heavy hammer, he started to pound the rod into the bottom mud. He said he felt something watching him as he pounded away. Just a feeling until he turned around and saw about 20 bass hovering 10 feet from him, watching what he was doing. They were attracted by the vibration of hammering the pole into the bottom mud. Now begs the question: do radio and other noises travel from their source into the water and alert all water creatures you are there? And if so, does the noise bother the bass? I would think Dr. Keith Jones book, Knowing Bass, The Scientific Approach to Catching More Fish, would hold the answer, but there is a football game on tonight so I will try to see what Dr. Jones says about the bass' hearnig and vibration detection. Will let you know what I find out. I saw a striper guide beating the bottom of the boat with a broomstick to drawn in fish the other day. I had to change the channel because the sound drove me crazy but they did catch a smallie and a hybrid while he was beating the boat haha 1 Quote
Super User Deleted account Posted January 9, 2023 Super User Posted January 9, 2023 25 minutes ago, Sam said: Now begs the question: do radio and other noises travel from their source into the water and alert all water creatures you are there? And if so, does the noise bother the bass? If the speaker is mounted on the boat and playing at a moderate high level, like maybe above 80 dbs, then it will carry into the water a fair distance, and fish will be able to detect it. Does it negatively affect the bite? I dunno... 1 Quote
Global Moderator TnRiver46 Posted January 10, 2023 Global Moderator Posted January 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Deleted account said: If the speaker is mounted on the boat and playing at a moderate high level, like maybe above 80 dbs, then it will carry into the water a fair distance, and fish will be able to detect it. Does it negatively affect the bite? I dunno... Obviously that depends on which song is playing 1 2 Quote
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