Super User deaknh03 Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 This is America. We speak American damnit! American? Quote
plumworm Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 JBsooner: "You do realize we are the melting pot, don't you". You bet your sweet patoote I do . My family came from England, Ireland, Germany and Bulgaria, I am as American as you can get. My Bulgarian Grandfather, who came to this country in 1895 @ 15, refused to teach me any Bulgarian because we "speak English here" Even though 2 of the 4 spoke a form of English, they all had to learn American. They did and they became great Americans. Worked hard, had many kids who served in WW2, Grandkids who served in "Nam" and great grand kids who served in the mid east. Don't give me the "melting pot BS about learning English. If you want to live here,. learn our language. 1 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted April 26, 2014 Author Super User Posted April 26, 2014 JBsooner: "You do realize we are the melting pot, don't you". You bet your sweet patoote I do . My family came from England, Ireland, Germany and Bulgaria, I am as American as you can get. My Bulgarian Grandfather, who came to this country in 1895 @ 15, refused to teach me any Bulgarian because we "speak English here" Even though 2 of the 4 spoke a form of English, they all had to learn American. They did and they became great Americans. Worked hard, had many kids who served in WW2, Grandkids who served in "Nam" and great grand kids who served in the mid east. Don't give me the "melting pot BS about learning English. If you want to live here,. learn our language.I speak English. Why are you getting so butthurt over this? I asked the question out of curiosity. You have taken it to an extreme.Btw, learn how to use the quote feature. I'm not sure what language that is, but it must not be American. 1 Quote
Super User Root beer Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 I speak English. Why are you getting so butthurt over this? I asked the question out of curiosity. You have taken it to an extreme. Stultus est. Si tibi voluerit contendere cum eo, et descendunt ad plana caedam suam experientiam. 2 Quote
preach4bass Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 In addition to English I can read a little Greek Ok, sorry to interrupt the drama. Back to getting your panties in a wad........ 2 Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 Stultus est. Si tibi voluerit contendere cum eo, et descendunt ad plana caedam suam experientiam. "That's Latin, doll. Apparently, Mr. Root beer is an educated man. Now I really hate him." Doc Holiday 1 Quote
Super User Root beer Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 "That's Latin, doll. Apparently, Mr. Root beer is an educated man. Now I really hate him." Doc Holiday  Next week's movie night at my place will be Tombstone. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 Such anger. So young so full of hate. American? Yup. American. In keeping with the spirit of the thread... You got a problem with that punk!?! I will go straight up Scottish on your ***! Don't you disagree with me you sack of excrement! How dare you question the greatness that is Raider Nay Shay The Almighty! God of all that is unholy! I am the greatest most intellectual thing to ever come of this World! Son, the winds Bow before me! The earth trembles at the thought of me! The waters part at the mention of my name! The fire burns stronger because of me!(sometimes I'm gassy) You dare question me!?! Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!?? (Grumble grumble) ROAR!!!!! Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 Next week's movie night at my place will be Tombstone. I shall try an make it. Greatest movie EVER! Quote
Super User Root beer Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 Question: How does a wind bow? Â Edit: i lost track of the ask raider column. 1 Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 Question: How does a wind bow? Â Edit: i lost track of the ask raider column. LOL! Dear Root beer, I'm not quite sure. I guess it blows downward. It sounded good though. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 Such anger. So young so full of hate. Yup. American. In keeping with the spirit of the thread... You got a problem with that punk!?! I will go straight up Scottish on your ***! Don't you disagree with me you sack of excrement! How dare you question the greatness that is Raider Nay Shay The Almighty! God of all that is unholy! I am the greatest most intellectual thing to ever come of this World! Son, the winds Bow before me! The earth trembles at the thought of me! The waters part at the mention of my name! The fire burns stronger because of me!(sometimes I'm gassy) You dare question me!?! Grrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!?? (Grumble grumble) ROAR!!!!! I might suggest you try fishing for change of pace, your commentary just isn't cutting the mustard.  Knowledge is power, always has and always will be.  Knowing a second or third language can only be an advantage.  Living in Florida knowing another language would have been a big help to me, quite often dealing with a home improvement.  I've dealt with some excellent craftsmen busting their ass to to good job, communication has complicated things from time to time.  Faulting only them is a bit narrow minded, had both the workmen and myself known a second language would be a profound advantage. Have traveled to a number of other countries and have "gotten by", knowing their language only would enhanced the trips.  No question about it, I'm sorry I neglected learning another language. Quote
Basseditor Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 English is a pretty complicated language, but I agree, if you are living here, you need to learn it. I lived in South America for nearly two years and became very fluent in Spanish. I didn't really use it much when I came back, so my vocabulary dropped, but I can still communicate in it. Once I learned Spanish language rules, I became better at understanding English rules. I majored in English and became a writer/editor. I read recently that we have about 25 dialects. Going to different states is like going to another country. But the SA country where I lived had 80 dialects. Quote
Super User Lund Explorer Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 How dare you refer to Raider like that  I'd never do that.  Raider does a great job of speaking his language. What that is might be quite a bit different than the Yankee I learned in school, but I'm sure that he learnt his in a skool too.  When you think about it, most of us a close to being bi-lingual. At least the ones that can admit that we understand what he posts! Quote
Nice_Bass Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 They were probably here illegally. It should be a requirement that you speak ENGLISH to enter our great country. Why do we as Americans have to learn another language to communicate with foreigners that are in our country either legally our illegally. I live in Fla. 6 mos. out of the year and everywhere you go now signs are posted in English and Spanish. Why? I have nothing against anyone from a foreign country. Both my parents are from another country, but they didn't come here speaking Gaelic and expect everyone to learn Gaelic to communicate with them. I am done ranting now! SMH.... I typed up a well thought out response to these very simplistic ideas/ideals you have, and then I realized its just not worth it. If you cannot understand the simple idea of how knowing a second or third language is helpful in life as well as beneficial to your own brain then there is nothing more I can say here. 3 Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 English is a pretty complicated language, but I agree, if you are living here, you need to learn it. I lived in South America for nearly two years and became very fluent in Spanish. I didn't really use it much when I came back, so my vocabulary dropped, but I can still communicate in it. Once I learned Spanish language rules, I became better at understanding English rules. I majored in English and became a writer/editor. I read recently that we have about 25 dialects. Going to different states is like going to another country. But the SA country where I lived had 80 dialects. 26 if you include mine. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 I'd never do that.  Raider does a great job of speaking his language. What that is might be quite a bit different than the Yankee I learned in school, but I'm sure that he learnt his in a skool too.  When you think about it, most of us a close to being bi-lingual. At least the ones that can admit that we understand what he posts! I learned something in skool. I'm not quite sure what, but I learned something..... Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 I might suggest you try fishing for change of pace, your commentary just isn't cutting the mustard. Knowledge is power, always has and always will be. Knowing a second or third language can only be an advantage. Living in Florida knowing another language would have been a big help to me, quite often dealing with a home improvement. I've dealt with some excellent craftsmen busting their ass to to good job, communication has complicated things from time to time. Faulting only them is a bit narrow minded, had both the workmen and myself known a second language would be a profound advantage. Have traveled to a number of other countries and have "gotten by", knowing their language only would enhanced the trips. No question about it, I'm sorry I neglected learning another language. You can't cut mustard. You spread mustard. Sheesh. You can however, cut the cheese. Most of the Spanish speaking laborers I have worked around do understand English. They just play dumb about it sometimes. This is directly from my buddy who came up here from Argentina. As for the craftmanship. A father and son I used to work around from Mexico. The father was an electrician in Mexico. I learned that during lunch one day. The son translated for him. The father could understand English. He had trouble pronouncing some of the words and stringing sentences together. So rather than, in his words, embarrass himself. When other people were around he had his son translate what he said. He was one of the most skilled carpenters and tile layers I have ever met or seen. He did absolutely beautiful work. I learned a lot about his culture, his country, and some skills different then my trade. His son has since become a citizen of the US. He moved back home to mexico a couple years ago. He said he missed his friends and family there. Quote
Christian M Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 English is NOT the official language of America. Enjoy this knowledge and carry on.True...Raider Nation...what's "the laborers language"??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're the one working on something, and you tell everyone else to stand back, doesn't that make you the laborer ...Also, what would you do without the guys working along side you? Probably not have a business right? It's not such a simple concept. What would you say to a Hawaiian, Native Alaskan, or Puerto Rican who doesn't speak English? All parts of the USA & all citizens. Also, I don't know what statistics you're looking at, but Latins/Hispanics are now the majority in the USA, more knowledge to carry on and enjoy. It's crazy how a simple question about speaking different languages turns into a heated forum with racial undertones where people to sound off about getting out of the country if you cant speak English. I'm a Latin American who was born on American soil along with my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents. Every generation of my family has served in the US military. I love my country and wouldn't trade it for any other. However, I am realistic about the state of our nation and society. I could go on but I digress, this is supposed to be an intellectual discussion about speaking other languages. Keeper, kudos on the post. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 True... Raider Nation...what's "the laborers language"??? Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're the one working on something, and you tell everyone else to stand back, doesn't that make you the laborer ...Also, what would you do without the guys working along side you? Probably not have a business right? It's not such a simple concept. What would you say to a Hawaiian, Native Alaskan, or Puerto Rican who doesn't speak English? All parts of the USA & all citizens. Also, I don't know what statistics you're looking at, but Latins/Hispanics are now the majority in the USA, more knowledge to carry on and enjoy. It's crazy how a simple question about speaking different languages turns into a heated forum with racial undertones where people to sound off about getting out of the country if you cant speak English. I'm a Latin American who was born on American soil along with my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents. Every generation of my family has served in the US military. I love my country and wouldn't trade it for any other. However, I am realistic about the state of our nation and society. I could go on but I digress, this is a post about speaking other languages. In this particular example the laborers language was Spanish. Seeing as they are the most widely used laborers on non Union projects. I do not work, with or "beside" laborers. Regardless of what ethnicity they are. They are not skilled labor in any way. If I owned my own company at the current moment. I would still be in business without the hispanic laborers, or any ethnicity of laborer. I'm not a general contractor. Therefore the hiring of unskilled labor does not fall into my realm of work. If I need something cleaned up, I have an apprentice to do that for me. I'm a journeyman wireman. AKA a journeyman electrician. I am in no way nor have I ever been a laborer. Thusly classifying me as a skilled tradesman. I don't sweep floors or dig holes for a living. I wire, construct, install, and troubleshoot electrical systems. From simple items such as a light and a switch, up to PLC systems and multi billion dollar control systems. Again I am in no way a laborer. Edit: As far as the Alaskan, Hawaiian, and Native American. I would, in my everyday voice tell them to stand back. I've never ran into that situation. Where a Hawaiian, Native American, or Alaskan were working on a job with me. However, being a part of what I am. I'm not too concerned with that becoming a problem for me. Yes, I can work anywhere in this nation I choose to now. Funny thing is. If you can't speak English your not allowed on the job site. Its a safety hazard to all those around you. Including in Hawaii and Alaska. Indian reservations are governed by their own laws. So that's a different story. Don't believe me? Go see how fast the power company runs you out of a nuclear plant for not understanding the signs they have posted. I mean its just a nuclear power plant. Its not like they can meltdown, release massive amounts of radiation, or anything. Actually, you ain't gonna set foot in that plant until after you pass the massive amount of background checks. Plus the novel size stack of paperwork you have to fill out. Its all written in English by the way. You do all that so that you can then take a weeks worth of safety classes. Again all in English. Then your able to set foot inside the facility. Takes about 2 weeks to complete all of that. Funny how the government and the regulators only allow people who can understand and speak English into our Nuke plants. 1 Quote
shootermcbob Posted April 26, 2014 Posted April 26, 2014 I know THREE languages. English Swahili and    The language of love :laugh5: 3 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 American? Amurican Hootie Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 How do you spread this? Hootie 1 Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted April 26, 2014 Super User Posted April 26, 2014 How do you spread this? Hootie tall_mustard.jpg Why I never thought mustard seeds came from a bush/tree is beyond me. Suddenly that expression makes sense now. I was wrong before. Thank ya for enlightening me sir. 1 Quote
Global Moderator Bluebasser86 Posted April 27, 2014 Global Moderator Posted April 27, 2014 Fluent in English and Sarcasm  I know just enough Spanish after 5 years of classes in school to really confuse Spanish speaking people. 2 Quote
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