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I had a noisy bad spinning reel once. In fishing a very quiet area I seen a sunfish like listening we're my line entered the water as I cranked my reel with a lure. I figured the noise from my mistake reel entered the water through my line like a guitar string.

I always close my bail on my spinning reel by hand making no noise at all. Now I notice while fishing at night to dawn any little strange sound will spook the larger bass at the shoreline. I'm very stealthy handling my tackle, I walk up softly to my spot. I even drive up slowly in my car and shut the door softly too.

My question is do you think the engagement of the spool on a bait casting reel can send this loud click noise down my line into the water too?

I have even cleared my throat and seen a very large wake on top of the water swim away from shore right in front of me.

I think these bigger gals are very sound sensitive. I'm so quiet it's like I'm not even there. I use a one AA battery flash lite to keep the glare down. I'm extremely stealthy.

Now what do you think about the loud click of my bait casting reel at night?

Can a bait caster be lubed enough to stop this loud click?

  • Super User
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It may bother you more than the fish, that twang down the line may attract them out of curiosity. 

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If the possible noise of a bail clanging shut concerns you, close the bail by hand. At the end of the cast grab the line with your right index finger and close the bail with your left hand. A side benefit of doing this is that you will eliminate wind loops. Night time surf fishermen have been doing this for years.

  • Super User
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It's not something I give a second thought to. My first spinning reel, a Mitchell, made all kinds is of clicking noises with anti reverse on, and I caught plenty with that reel.

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  • Super User
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We know that bass can hear and feel vibrations in the water.

 

We also know that you need a very taught line to carry sounds successfully, like many of us growing up in the 50s and 60s did with two tin cans and thin cord.

 

I would not think the sounds your reel makes would have any impact on your fishing.

 

I do think that your yelling and screaming when that big 8-pound lady gets off the line when your reel blows up would be heard by the fish, animals, people within a three-mile radius and those in the heavens!!!!!

 

So get the reel checked out by a professional who can clean and repair the reel so that it works perfectly before you have a sad story to tell us.

  • Super User
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If you're worried about that, then by no means let your bait hit the water! That loud noise will chase everything in the lake away. I think your over thinking things a little. 

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Larry Dahlberg on Hunt for Big Fish was doing an episode with an underwater hydrophone testing musky lures he made.  He was picking up the differences different bladed baits had in tone or tune.  He was able to pick up a constant associated noise that wasnt any of his lures, but was present with each lure.  He was able to determine that his braided line made its own audible noise when moving in the water.  He said mono didnt make that noise and that he'd talk more about this 'alarming and interesting aspect' on another episode.  Of course at that time shimano/PowerPro was his sponsor.  It was never mentioned again!!!

  • Super User
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Sound above the water doesn't penetrate the surface of the water unless the air is moving from the sound waves. Sound underwater are vibrations moving the water. Fish hear or feel the vibrations from great distances; your outboard engine and trolling motor propellers create "loud" underwater vibrations that fish "hear" , your sonar puts out pulse that fish feel, your line may vibrate above water, but is dampened quickly underwater.

The answer is; no your noisy reel only bothers you or anyone who can hear it.

Tom

  • Super User
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Here, let me help you be even more paranoid.  It isn't just the sound that travels down the line in to the fishy environment.  It is possible to over think it more than that.  Just consider that your hopes, dreams, expectations, disappointments, and every emotion you've ever felt also travel down the line into the fishes world.  Try controlling all that stuff, then maybe you'll catch some more fish.  Glad I could help.

  • Super User
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All I'm saying is any noise out of the norm spooks these big gals away from the shoreline in dark conditions. I cleared my throat once to see her swim away, she was right in front of me.

These big gals are out there and there not being caught. They didn't get big being stupid. I think there sences are way keener that we give them credit for.

I'm not paranoid I'm just suggesting that there are DD bass out there and trying to figure out what can spook them that I Maybe missing.

Listen to the click engagement of your drive to the spool. All I'm asking is do you think that noise can spook the bass?

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I agree with you Bill, they are keener than all angler's give them credit for.  Are they smart in the sense people responding think of as smart, maybe not.  They didnt get big by luck or great efforts of academic men giving to nature.  They still have a pea sized brain.  But God made them to survive and thrive.  I love how internet experts proclaim how their prey isnt smart but then spend tons of money to use the most technologically advanced gear to fool it into biting.

  • Super User
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Bass have very good eye sight, can't hear you cough or scream above water, they can see any of your movements and any movement underwater they can feel via their lateral line. Drop anything in the water they know it's there, making noise by dropping things into your boat, the hear that because your boat is in the water. Step on a twig and snap it, they can't hear that, if the branch moves neat the water, see can see it.

Bill you keep trying to catch those DD bass, I catch my share.

Tom

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All lines will emit sound or vibration underwater especially when taught and moving fast, or when still and taught in heavy current. The amount of sound and/or vibration from you or your equipment above or below the waters surface in each circumstance depends largely on the type of line used. Coarse braids will sound or vibrate more so than Mono or Fluoro of the same dia. Smaller dia's emit a higher pitch than Larger dia's of the same type. How taught the line is and the amount of stretch in the line is also a big factor in transmitting the sound.

I never worry a lot about fluoro and mono when in use unless flipping and pitching short distances, but Braid is another story. I use the smoothest braids I can find, Suffix original or Samurai, to reduce noise effect and especially in heavy grass, brush and wood. The sawing noise and vibrations are a REAL deterrent with heavily pressured fish.

The quieter the surroundings and waters surface, especially when shallow, the more stealthy we should be. When flipping and pitching with heavier weights etc. I try to be careful not to set the reel on a taught line or during a vertical fall.

When windy and deep, and/or in muddy or night conditions, if the bait, jig etc has touched down without a bite and after a brief pause, I'll tighten the line and lightly click my reel in and out of gear to create a bottom sound or disturbance to possibly draw a fish from afar.

Just use your common sense and realize that anything that may alert the quarry of OUR presence is not necessarily a good thing ;)   

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