Fishing Knots

[nickjames1310]

Hey, Im having the hardest time with my knots. I have lost 3 kvd red eye shad luresthis past month thats about 18$ in lures plus 18$ to replace them. Can someone please recommend a good knot? I tie EVERYTHING with the same knot. Not sure what its called its what my dad taught me. I put the string throug the lure hole and rap it around the line 6 times then I put it through the first loop and tighten it down after making sure the line was wet before I tighten it. Any advice would be fantastic and maybe a link to a site that shows the knot.

[doyle8218]

http://www.animatedknots.com/indexfishing.php?LogoImage=LogoGrog.jpg&Website=www.animatedknots.com

[papajoe222]

I'll ask a couple of questions before I attempt to give you recommendations.  The first is; What kind of line are you using? The second is; Is the line breaking at the knot, or is the knot slipping?

While many knots will work with most types of line, some work better with braid while others work better with mono ro flouro. The knot you describe, I think, is the original cinch knot and isn't used by many because of it's tendency to slip.  You can tell by the end of your line being kinked for an inch or so. 

Do an internet search for animated knots and check out the Palomar, Pitzen, and SanDiego jam.  Those three knots are easy to tie and are excelent for tying direct to your hook or lure.

BTW, Welcome to the board!

[Missourifishin]

Yeah, it sounds like you're tying a clinch knot. After you wrap it 6 times and go through the loop, that should create another loop above. If you go through that loop too, you'll have an improved clinch knot, which has always worked for me. Recently I've been using a trilene knot though, which I like a lot. Look for those on youtube, as well as the palomar knot.

[BigKev77]

look up the San Diego jam knot. Easy, quick, and strong.

 

 

 

Edit: just noticed papajoe222 mentioned it.

[FlipSide]

Palomar

[Stingray23]

I've been using a uni knot forever and it has never failed me.

[Darren.]

The other option - or AN other option you have is to use a duo-lock style fast clip. Many pros, and many of us amateurs use them for quick changing of lures.

 

Remove the split ring off the lure and hook lure directly to the clip.

 

And you can use a simple palomar to tie on the clip, plenty of saliva as you cinch down the knot.

 

As well, be sure to check your line after you catch a fish, or get snagged, come over structure, etc. I lost a beast of a bass (including my rattle trap) due to not retying to the clip. I felt it, decided to cast out instead of retie and lost a possible PB bass. Live and learn.

[SirSnookalot]

I grew up with that same clinch knot and I'm still using it but not for all lines.  I use pretty much the same line sizes for bass fishing as I do for saltwater, my knots are consistent in both venues.  I always use a leader and lures are always tied with a loopknot except in the case of using a duolock then it's just that ordinary clinch knot.  Braided lines I use an improved clinch with a double wrap at the end, I burn the tag end to put a bead on to prevent pull thru.  For line joining I use an Albright for every scenario. I don't ever think about knot failure it I'm bass fishing or catching tarpon.

I don't really care what knot others are using or what Knot Wars say, if a knot is working for you, that's the one to use.  Knots fail for only a few reasons, it wasn't tied correctly, the line gets nicked, drag is too tight, offhand nothing else comes to mind.

[Tywithay]

You're tying a good knot, just not tying it properly. After you make your twists and put it through the loop, you have to put it back through the loop created by the tag end and the twists on the main line. Without adding the last part, you should be able to slip the knot by hand. I always recommend giving them a good tug to check the knot before casting an expensive lure into orbit with no line attached. If the knot is bad, it'll come loose or snap when you check it. I use an improved clinch for everything and never have an issue.

[nickjames1310]

Thanks! Tons of advice its slipping is what it is. I also noticed after tieing a knot I'm using 12 lb and 15 lb Pline mono and it looks pretty stretched out after tieing a knot and I honestly dont pull it to hard. Should I be using floro? Or is mono the best.

[nascar2428]

Thanks! Tons of advice its slipping is what it is. I also noticed after tieing a knot I'm using 12 lb and 15 lb Pline mono and it looks pretty stretched out after tieing a knot and I honestly dont pull it to hard. Should I be using floro? Or is mono the best.

I would practice tying some of these knots first with the mono. Lets get you confident in doing that before you try to moving on to flouro. 

[JLeon77]

I had a problem like yours for a bit of last season, couldn't keep a knot from breaking. 

 

I spent a good amount of time over the cold, miserable winter practicing tying different knots.  As a result I have gotten very good with a few different knots rather than just one.  Palomar, Improved Clinch and the Fishin' Fool knot are my go to's now.  Also, the Eugene Bend knot which makes a snap/pop noise when tightening if you do it correctly.  It is not on that link, but you can google it.

[Tywithay]

Thanks! Tons of advice its slipping is what it is. I also noticed after tieing a knot I'm using 12 lb and 15 lb Pline mono and it looks pretty stretched out after tieing a knot and I honestly dont pull it to hard. Should I be using floro? Or is mono the best.

Mono is probably the easiest line to tie a good knot. Fluoro is even more critical that you tie a knot properly.

[mjseverson24]

I used the same knot that you are using (clinch knot) for most of my life, it does have a tendency to slip, but if you tie it correctly it wont, but that may take a few times before it seats properly... the improved clinch is just as easy and will definately hold better, and is a great choice for mono and floro... I have now switched to the palomar knot pretty much whenever I can use it, i still use the improved clinch every now and again, but i tie three knots 99% of the time... line to lure---> palomar, line to hook---> palomar or snell, line to line---> double uni...

 

Mitch

[roadwarrior]

Palomar Knot for single hooks:  http://www.animatedknots.com/palomar/index.php

 

16-20 (Duncan or Pitzen) for treble hooks and lures:

[deadadrift89]

Another vote for Trilene knot. Most important is whatever knot you go with is to wet the heck out of it and pull slowly as you draw it tight.

[masterbass]

Yeah, it sounds like you're tying a clinch knot. After you wrap it 6 times and go through the loop, that should create another loop above. If you go through that loop too, you'll have an improved clinch knot, which has always worked for me. Recently I've been using a trilene knot though, which I like a lot. Look for those on youtube, as well as the palomar knot.

Improved clinch seems to work for me too.  With braid the palomar or double palomar are easy and dependable knots.