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Are there any rod or reel requirements for braided line. I own an abu garcia black max low profile and some cheap spinning reel made by okuma bought from sports authority. The rod on the okuma is 7' i believe but since im interested in soft body frog fishing, ive read that braid is a neccessity. Also, i have 10 pound flourocarbon on the abu and 8 pund mono on the okuma.

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for braid no, you can put it on either one.  I wouldn't put anything heavier the 10lb on the spinning rod.  When you talk about frog fishing then yes braid is a good thing to have but also need the equipment to fish them.  You may be able to use the reel and atleast 30lb braid (most fish heavier) but you are going to need atleast a 7'MH or H rod that can handle the technique and fishing conditions you're looking to do.  

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Yea you can put braid on basically any reel. I have it spooled on couple of my spinning reels, higher end ones, and am going to get it spooled on my baitcaster once I get more comfortable with it, I am urgently using a Abu Garcia silver max. I use 30# power pro and yesterday spooled up 30# power pro super slick. I have used the super slick before and not until yesterday I was a believer with its caring distance when my buddy was basically throwing it the whole football field while I was barely getting it past the 50yd line lol.

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I would say it depends where you are gonna fish... Here in Ohio a 30# line is more than sufficient for throwing a frog and most of the time i use only a 20#. For my jig and Texas rigs a use a 20#. Always spiderwire stealth braid. Never used power pro but lots like it.

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If you are going to take up soft body frog fishing braid would be advised. 30lb PP would do just fine for that application. If you are fishing in heavy cover than maybe bump up to 40lb. If you take up hollowbody frog fishing I wouldn't throw anything less than 40lb. 

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for braid no, you can put it on either one.  I wouldn't put anything heavier the 10lb on the spinning rod.  When you talk about frog fishing then yes braid is a good thing to have but also need the equipment to fish them.  You may be able to use the reel and atleast 30lb braid (most fish heavier) but you are going to need atleast a 7'MH or H rod that can handle the technique and fishing conditions you're looking to do.  

yea this

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For Spinning gear, I would agree that 10-15lb braid is all you need and if you feel a leader gives you more confidence instead of tying direct, I personally find that a copolymer or Nylon Mono like Yo-zuri Hybrid or Trilene XT, Big Game is good for Topwaters and most presentations and I like to use both green, green mist, or clear depending on water color.

 

I use a black max when on my Kayak since it is a reliable and solid all purpose baitcasting reel, and I find it handles best with any braid that has a 10lb diameter and if weeds are heavy, I like regular Power pro since it is rough and cuts weeds like a weed whacker. If you want a line that casts like a dream, I find Power Pro Plus (8 strand Spectra) to be great for casting distance and overall ease of use. Suffix 832 is also a great line as it is an 8 strand with a strand of gore added so it is still sharp, but also handles well. Power Pro 40lb is 10lb dia, and suffix #30 is 8lb diameter and personally, I always go #40-#50 but that is just for my confidence and it lasts on my baitcaster until it loses all its color which is a good thing.

 

Depending on how heavy the weed growth is, you can still get away with throwing 15-20lb Copolymers and many like Yo-zuri Hybrid test out much higher than 15lb test would normally be as it is thicker. I believe 15 is 21.8, and 20 is almost 30, I want to say 28.8? Trilene Big Game in #20-25 is also not a bad choice as Mono and copolys float which is advantageous to frog fishing or topwater. Simple Nylon Mono still casts very well but does have alot of stretch if making long casts, so braid is almost a must for Frogging as the idea is covering water and casting deep into cover, so do what you feel is going to give you confidence.

 

Tuff Line xp is a great line as well, and I have had success with any Spectra or Dyneema weave, I just can't deal with coated superlines on baitcasting gear, however I love crystal and other coated lines on spinning gear, and Nanofil is an awesome line for spinning gear and worth every penny in my opinion.

 

Hope that helps. The Black Max is a solid reel and one that is hard to beat at the price point they are sold at and I flat out like the entire Abu Garcia line of reels. Also Like Okuma as well, so you have a good foundation.

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For Spinning gear, I would agree that 10-15lb braid is all you need and if you feel a leader gives you more confidence instead of tying direct, I personally find that a copolymer or Nylon Mono like Yo-zuri Hybrid or Trilene XT, Big Game is good for Topwaters and most presentations and I like to use both green, green mist, or clear depending on water color.

 

I use a black max when on my Kayak since it is a reliable and solid all purpose baitcasting reel, and I find it handles best with any braid that has a 10lb diameter and if weeds are heavy, I like regular Power pro since it is rough and cuts weeds like a weed whacker. If you want a line that casts like a dream, I find Power Pro Plus (8 strand Spectra) to be great for casting distance and overall ease of use. Suffix 832 is also a great line as it is an 8 strand with a strand of gore added so it is still sharp, but also handles well. Power Pro 40lb is 10lb dia, and suffix #30 is 8lb diameter and personally, I always go #40-#50 but that is just for my confidence and it lasts on my baitcaster until it loses all its color which is a good thing.

 

Depending on how heavy the weed growth is, you can still get away with throwing 15-20lb Copolymers and many like Yo-zuri Hybrid test out much higher than 15lb test would normally be as it is thicker. I believe 15 is 21.8, and 20 is almost 30, I want to say 28.8? Trilene Big Game in #20-25 is also not a bad choice as Mono and copolys float which is advantageous to frog fishing or topwater. Simple Nylon Mono still casts very well but does have alot of stretch if making long casts, so braid is almost a must for Frogging as the idea is covering water and casting deep into cover, so do what you feel is going to give you confidence.

 

Tuff Line xp is a great line as well, and I have had success with any Spectra or Dyneema weave, I just can't deal with coated superlines on baitcasting gear, however I love crystal and other coated lines on spinning gear, and Nanofil is an awesome line for spinning gear and worth every penny in my opinion.

 

Hope that helps. The Black Max is a solid reel and one that is hard to beat at the price point they are sold at and I flat out like the entire Abu Garcia line of reels. Also Like Okuma as well, so you have a good foundation.

Thanks im excited to give it a shot

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