First Swimbait Order

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Just wondering how many hudds do you think is necessary to start off with and learn how to fish them? I don't want to go overboard and spend a bunch of money. SO im thinking a few 8 inch rof 12 and a few weedless 68 specials rof 5 . DO you think thank that would be enough? or too much should i just get 2 of each?

[webertime]

If it were me...

1ea.

8" ROF 5,

8" ROF 12,

68 Special ROF 5,

68 Special ROF 12,

68 weedless ROF 12. (If you are dragging through thick weeds the big kick of the tail will be diminished.)

6" ROF 5

6" ROF 12

If you can get regular 6" weedless they are great baits.

Looking at that list seems like a lot, it is but you'll be set up for most anything.

[hatrix]

You can't get a Weedless 6 anymore as far as I know unless someone has been holding on to it. I would scrap the Weedless rof12 for a normal 6". Really the size and rof all depends on the size of fish you have around. Where I live a 8" is a tuff bite. The 5 and 6" baits still catch 5#ers all day. Where I live a 10# bass is almost unheard of.

Also Weedless huds do not fall vertically they fall nose first FYI.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

If it were me...

1ea.

8" ROF 5,

8" ROF 12,

68 Special ROF 5,

68 Special ROF 12,

68 weedless ROF 12. (If you are dragging through thick weeds the big kick of the tail will be diminished.)

6" ROF 5

6" ROF 12

If you can get regular 6" weedless they are great baits.

Looking at that list seems like a lot, it is but you'll be set up for most anyhting

thanks thats pretty mucch what i was thinking excpt the rate of rall 6 inch 12 . but i might add that. so you think 1 of each will be fine for a few months of fishing>? 

[Grizzn N Bassin]

You can't get a Weedless 6 anymore as far as I know unless someone has been holding on to it. I would scrap the Weedless rof12 for a normal 6". Really the size and rof all depends on the size of fish you have around. Where I live a 8" is a tuff bite. The 5 and 6" baits still catch 5#ers all day. Where I live a 10# bass is almost unheard of.

Also Weedless huds do not fall vertically they fall nose first FYI.

yeah we have few lakes here that produce 5-8 pounders on conventional gear. but with a swimbait well i never heard of anyone throwing them except for myself. ive thrown a few hard swimbaits, but this year im going to try targeting the bigger ones. which an 8 pounder on a bucktail jig, out of lake stocked with trout i think has the ability to produce a 10 pounder on a swimbait. also that place does get fished with siwmbaits, and it 50 foot deep. just trying to be optimistic!

[webertime]

thanks thats pretty mucch what i was thinking excpt the rate of rall 6 inch 12 . but i might add that. so you think 1 of each will be fine for a few months of fishing>?

If you have Pike you may need a replacement here and there. No Pike, no issues.

[1234567]

Do you mean they dont fall horizontally.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

If you have Pike you may need a replacement here and there. No Pike, no 

 Well my uncles 15 acre pond has pickeral. think i should use a steal leader?? i forgot about that 

[hatrix]

My mistake yes horizontally and yes I know the difference

Also there is many other excellent swim baits that can be had for a fair price.

I threw a S-Waver today and was really impressed and it is fairly cheap. Decoy hydra tails are cheap and catch fish. Savage gear line through and real trouts are also making big noise lately. Spro 8" and 6" will get them. Tylures make some nice hand made baits. For a bluegill or sunfish pattern Mattlures is pretty good.

Really I would buy a variety of baits. What if that day there not really eating huds well. Your stuck with 10 different huds and no bites.

[gulfcaptain]

First how deep?  IF it's shallow, stick with the 8" ROF 5's.  I fish them pretty much all the time.  Have a few 12's, but have caught more on the 5's.  IF you fish the 6", stick with the 12's.  The 5's tend to role on there side and need a bit of tweeking.  Same for the 68's.  Don't forget to buy some mend-it as well since you mentioned pickerel.  The 8" 5's don't come with a hook, but you could wire a 1/0-2/0 treble to the top.  I like the 1/0 KVD short shank trebles myself.  And if you do it that way the fish can't use the weight of the bait to throw it.  I started with 2 8", one 5 and a 12, and the same with the 6".  

[MarkH024]

Well my uncles 15 acre pond has pickeral. think i should use a steal leader?? i forgot about that

you can use a heavier gauge fluoro leader. I have some built ones for musky and I have a few Spro ones that I use for swimbaiting. Steel or titanium will work too. Id advise using one of the above unless money is no object. Hudds add up quick.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

First how deep?  IF it's shallow, stick with the 8" ROF 5's.  I fish them pretty much all the time.  Have a few 12's, but have caught more on the 5's.  IF you fish the 6", stick with the 12's.  The 5's tend to role on there side and need a bit of tweeking.  Same for the 68's.  Don't forget to buy some mend-it as well since you mentioned pickerel.  The 8" 5's don't come with a hook, but you could wire a 1/0-2/0 treble to the top.  I like the 1/0 KVD short shank trebles myself.  And if you do it that way the fish can't use the weight of the bait to throw it.  I started with 2 8", one 5 and a 12, and the same with the 6".  

max depth is 50 feet. i fish a lot of reservoirs, ponds and lakes. range up to 30 feet.. im just wondering how many to buy. how long did you use the 4 baits until you needed new ones? im thinking of getting 2 8 inch rof 12 and 5. and   6inch rof 5 and 12 . along with a weedless 6 inch.  also im using owner stingers 4x,  80lb leader 

[Grizzn N Bassin]

My mistake yes horizontally and yes I know the difference

Also there is many other excellent swim baits that can be had for a fair price.

I threw a S-Waver today and was really impressed and it is fairly cheap. Decoy hydra tails are cheap and catch fish. Savage gear line through and real trouts are also making big noise lately. Spro 8" and 6" will get them. Tylures make some nice hand made baits. For a bluegill or sunfish pattern Mattlures is pretty good.

Really I would buy a variety of baits. What if that day there not really eating huds well. Your stuck with 10 different huds and no bites.

im getting hudds, triple trouts and slammers, and shell cracker (not injected g2). im just asking for how many hudds should i get to start out with. 

[hatrix]

I see. The trouts and slammers cost a fair amount. There are quite a few excellent baits now a days that can be had for around $20 or less if you are on a budget.

Also for about the price of a Triple Trout you can get a Roman Made Negotiator and I think it's a better bait. I am looking for the custom version but it is d**n near impossible to find one. That bait is definitely worth the money.

[Brian Needham]

I would stick with:

 

2- 68 rof 12 and

2- 8 inch rof 12

 

then branch out from there.

I know you have thrown them some, but you still want to make sure you are going to do this for a bit before you go whole hog on it.

instead of getting both the TT and MSlammer, I would get one or the other to start...... you will quickly find your favorites to throw then the rest will collect dust or you with sell them.

Just my opinion.

when all else fails, PM Speedbead.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

I would stick with:

 

2- 68 rof 12 and

2- 8 inch rof 12

 

then branch out from there.

I know you have thrown them some, but you still want to make sure you are going to do this for a bit before you go whole hog on it.

instead of getting both the TT and MSlammer, I would get one or the other to start...... you will quickly find your favorites to throw then the rest will collect dust or you with sell them.

Just my opinion.

when all else fails, PM Speedbead.

i have asked him a alot of questions but he doesnt fish hudds hah. but i hear you i need to keep things simple. i think im getting way to far into. with a rof12  thats a good all around bait. more along the lines of 2 rof 12 8 inch 1 8 inch rof 5.. 1 6 inch rof unknown and a weedless. 68

[basshole8190]

Trust me add a glide or two to that list i went out yesterday with my cl8 possum and s-waver 200 and while i only had a few blowups on the possum i had 14 followers and 4 caught fish with the s-waver 200 biggest being 4.9 oz.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Trust me add a glide or two to that list i went out yesterday with my cl8 possum and s-waver 200 and while i only had a few blowups on the possum i had 14 followers and 4 caught fish with the s-waver 200 biggest being 4.9 oz.

im sure i will get one of those, but  mainly want to learn how to fish the huds and slammer, then move on from there. Which im sure ill grab a few of those swavers.  what color were you using?

[basshole8190]

I like a few colors but i throw the most is abolone shad and party crasher but I've got bluegill and bone in 168 size in 200 i have a warden color and got a few more ordered

[1234567]

Honestly man if youre wondering how long one will last the answer is a long time with huddlebond. Word is the uglier the hudds get the more effective they become. Ive had hudd molds rip right out of the body and huddle bond will fix it pretty darn good. My answer would be two hudds just to start off. Probably the 68 too. Unless you lose them they will last a really lo g time.

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Honestly man if youre wondering how long one will last the answer is a long time with huddlebond. Word is the uglier the hudds get the more effective they become. Ive had hudd molds rip right out of the body and huddle bond will fix it pretty darn good. My answer would be two hudds just to start off. Probably the 68 too. Unless you lose them they will last a really lo g time.

thanks i have money to buy a bunch of hudds. i just want to load upa tackle box with hudds if i can get them to last awhile. im going to grab a rof 12 and 5 in 8inch. a 6inch  68 juv trout. i think that will plenty to start off with. 

[1234567]

Gulf Capt gave some really good advice.  If the water is shallow rof 5 is good to use.  On the other hand a rof 12 can be used in shallower water as well reeling it a little faster that MAY illicit a reaction bite too.  Good luck brother!

[Grizzn N Bassin]

Gulf Capt gave some really good advice.  If the water is shallow rof 5 is good to use.  On the other hand a rof 12 can be used in shallower water as well reeling it a little faster that MAY illicit a reaction bite too.  Good luck brother!

Thanks, ill be giving updates as i go

[ClackerBuzz]

great advice. pm me ur address Grizzn. i'll send you a generic 4 oz 8" Hudd (Reaction strike). Take a few hours to play and learn how to blast/cast it.  If ur not used to casing 4 oz lures by far the fastest way to lose one is a backlash.  second fastest is a snag so get a lure knocker.  third fastest pike.

 

i only tinkered w/ swimbaits last year but i learned a lot and i'm coming back this season in full force (biggest mistake besides backlashing was reeling too fast. gotta reel s-l-o-w.  even dead stick a Hudd). they cost more but i ordered more 2 oz lures b/c you can cast them so much easier ie 7" slammer, 200 S wave, Triple trout, Hardgills. many are jointed but the noise will come in handy June-Aug when my water dirties up from algae blooms. why cast a 4 oz 8" BBZ1 floater when you can cast a 2oz 7" Slammer.