Super User *Hootie Posted April 2, 2014 Super User Posted April 2, 2014 Which do you prefer for jigs and worms, and why? Hootie Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Under 3/4 oz total weight of jig + trailer - MH Over 3/4 oz - H 2 Quote
OntarioFishingGuy Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 It depends on the conditions, fishing shorelines coming off of islands, rough bottom in shallow water etc. i will always be using a ribbontail, fising weeds, wood and heavier cover, i will be using a jig. For the worm, i like a medium acion rod, and for the jig a medium heavy or heavy, depending on how heavy the cover is. One exception is that in deep water situations with rough bottom and finnicky fish, i will almost always be throwing a Big 1/2oz-1oz football jig. Quote
mjseverson24 Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 I actually prefer M/F or M/XF for jigs 3/8 and under. the blank is lighter and more balanced, also the M power wont over power the hook on some of the smaller jigs that I like to use (bitsy bug etc...). For jigs between 3/8 and 3/4 I like to use a MH/F which is a good mix of power and balance, I like its versatility to be able to pitch or cast these mid range jigs very well... it also has enough power to get fish up in in the boat from almost any type of cover. I like to use a H/MF or H/M for jigs above 3/4 oz and typically the rod is 8'... Mitch Quote
Brian Needham Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 depends on brand, line, depth, lure ect ect. can you give some details? Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted April 2, 2014 Author Super User Posted April 2, 2014 depends on brand, line, depth, lure ect ect. can you give some details? Loomis GLX, fluorocarbon 5'-7'ft deep and as I stated jigs and worms, 3/8 jigs and 1/4 to 5/16 t-rigged worms. I might add, the Loomis GLX heavy don't seem as heavy as a duckette mh. Hootie Quote
Brian Needham Posted April 2, 2014 Posted April 2, 2014 Loomis GLX, fluorocarbon 5'-7'ft deep and as I stated jigs and worms, 3/8 jigs and 1/4 to 5/16 t-rigged worms. I might add, the Loomis GLX heavy don't seem as heavy as a duckette mh. Hootie really? I always thought the ducketts fished light (or the ones I handled did) I always thought/heard the Loomis fished good to rating, so I would say MH........but now I don't know. Luckily there should be so GLX users filter in to answer this. you using 15# or 12# line? Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted April 2, 2014 Author Super User Posted April 2, 2014 really? I always thought the ducketts fished light (or the ones I handled did) I always thought/heard the Loomis fished good to rating, so I would say MH........but now I don't know. Luckily there should be so GLX users filter in to answer this. you using 15# or 12# line? 12# Seaguar Abrazx. Also might add the lake I fish has a lot of laydowns, which is what I am fishing most of the time. Hootie Quote
Super User Teal Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 Hootie, to me it depends on the rod. Both of my designated jig rods are 4 power rods thay are labled Heavy. I like a xf rod 1/4-3/4 or 1oz. My main concern is a rod that will load well and have the ability to skip,sling, or pitch a jig with a low trajectory. I'm not as concerned with weather it a MH or H, or how strong it is as long as it is at least a MH( I say this because we all know there is no true standard) I use braid on those rods and the fact that there is no stretch is gonna help me get q good hook set and drive that hook home even if it is a true MH. I am lucky that the Powell 714 and my new DX 704 have those qualities. I have best of both worlds with those rods, they both load well enough with 3/8 or 1/2 so I can put those jigs where I want them and I still have power to fish the jigs around trees in 16Fow with hydrilla everywhere. I had an old Daiwa T Rod that I sold to JHoffman, that was a 7'MH that I really liked... So like is said, it all depends on the rod. As for a T rigs, I really like a M or MH. The Powell 723 is labeled MH but it feels and handles like a M or a Mag Medium. I don't go really heavy with the soft plastics and if I do, its on a flipping stick which is a 7'6+ H Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 Depends on the company making the rods dobyns jigs 5 power worms 4 power st. croix jigs MH worms M or MHXF this is a general jig weight of 3/8 - 1/2 and worm weight of 3/16-5/16 I just noticed you said Gloomis. i'd opt for the 854 Quote
Mike2841 Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 Weightless plastics and the rigs up to 1/4 oz st croix med or equivalent 3 power, heavier t rigs and jigs croix mh or equivalent Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 Loomis GLX, fluorocarbon 5'-7'ft deep and as I stated jigs and worms, 3/8 jigs and 1/4 to 5/16 t-rigged worms. I might add, the Loomis GLX heavy don't seem as heavy as a duckette mh. Hootie I have 2 BCR854GLX's to do exactly what you want. I agree the H fishes light. The 854's are my 3/16 and 1/4 t-rig rods as well as my 3/8 and 1/2 jig with craw rods. I think you will be very happy with it. GLX 854C 7'1'' 14 - 20lb line 5/16 - 3/4 rating Fast Heavy B handle Jeff 2 Quote
Wbeadlescomb Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 If I'm fishing a jig around semi heavy cover I prefer braid so I like a softer rod. I've got a 7 foot powell mh-xf. I also like my jig rod to be able to load if a fish hits it while I'm swimming it back to the boat. I feel like I miss some of those bites with a rod that's too stiff. Quote
John G Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I don't have Loomis MH/H 7 footers in GLX yet but I do have the MBR843 MH/F and a Loomis MBR844 H/F both in IMX. For T rig worms/craws with a 1/4 oz and lower, I like the 843. If I fish a jig, which is rare, I would use the 844 cause the 3/8oz jig will be over 1/2oz when you add a trailer. Hootie, if you haven't used the 844, it is a very versatile rod and when I did not have my 843, I used my 844 with that same T Rig setup and it worked just fine. The 844 is a legend among bass rods for a reason. 1 Quote
Super User iceintheveins Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 For fairly sparse cover and lighter baits, MH. If fishing true heavy cover for big fish go with heavy. A MH is also a good choice when using braid too. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 Mh.... Unless I am punching mats, or flipping really think cover.... Then a H. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 Yes. I prefer what works best with bait/line/cover. I'd add XH and XXH to the list. Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 I use a GLX 854 most of the time. The jig weight I mostly throw is 3/8-1/2. I also have MH 7'1and extra heavy 7'11" for those other times. 1 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted April 3, 2014 Author Super User Posted April 3, 2014 You guys have been a great help. I was beginning to second guess myself on my choosing to get the heavy. I guess mostly because, up to now I have never used anything above a medium heavy. I'm looking forward to giving them a real workout on the laydown infested lake I fish. Thanks a bunch. Hootie Quote
Siebert Outdoors Posted April 3, 2014 Posted April 3, 2014 laydown infested lake I fish. Thanks a bunch. Hootie Definitely need at least heavy to quickly turn that fish out of there other wise you will probably end up getting wrapped up a lot. Quote
Super User Catt Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 My #1 Worm/Jig Setup Reel: Calcutta CT100A, wt: 9 oz, max drag: 9.5#, gear ratio: 5.8:1 Rod: Crucial CRC-X610MH, length: 6' 10", lure: 3/8-3/4, power: medium heavy, action: extra fast Line: Seaguar Red Label 15# Bullet/Jig Weight: 1/2 oz down to weightless I use this setup for every type of cover except matted grass & at depths out to 30'. 1 Quote
Super User Bankbeater Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 For a 1/2 ounce jig and smaller in light cover I like a MH. If I am fishing in heavy cover with a heavy jig I want a H rod. Quote
Super User WRB Posted April 3, 2014 Super User Posted April 3, 2014 The problem is trying to define what a medium heavy and heavy verses 3, 4, 5 or 6 power between different rod makers because there isn't any standard! The rod makers have gone to application specific and lure weight/ mono line lb test to guide anglers what the rod may be used for effectively. At the end of the day it's the anglers choice. For example my worms rods are 4 to 5 power, casting jig rods are 5 to 6 power and I fish with FC line between 10 to 14 lb test on both worm and jig rods using 3/16 oz worm weights and 7/16 oz jigs 90% of the time. These rods are over powered for most anglers, I like rods that cast great and control the bass. Loomis the 854 = 85 inch long rod, 4 power BC = baitcasting, JW = jig and worm. Good choice for all around jig and worm rod. Tom Quote
Super User bigbill Posted April 4, 2014 Super User Posted April 4, 2014 A mh & hvy action setup. Different conditions calls for different presentations. Thick weeds to bust through or thinner cover. Then there is open water along side the weedlines to deal with. One setup can't do it all. Quote
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