Building The World Record Bass

[McAlpine]

When someone finally designs a jig trailer to imitative this thing, the jig will have to be Massive ! 

 

A-Jay

 

Malaysian giant river prawns.jpg

 

 

Heck, I'm gonna stop fishing for bass and start fishing for giant river prawn's.

 

mmmmm.  with garlicy-butter.  mmmmm

[retiredbosn]

Ethical? Sure its his property, he can do what he wants. However, no bass taken from the lake would ever make the official record book. Just like high fenced deer farm harvest aren't eligible for inclusion in the Boone and Crockett book, don't know about Pope and Young though. IGFA would not allow an artificially raised bass in the books. Although there isn't a specific rule banning fish from a lake as described, but that's mainly due to the fact that this scenario is new, the rules were adopted in 1939. All applications submitted for inclusion are committee approved, I just don't see it happening. Boone and Crockett didn't have a specific rule until ppl tried to have deer included that were raised on "deer farms".

[bigbill]

Guys I've said this before I've caught my PB of 10# in ct, seen bigger swim by me on the drop off' s and lost two bigger bass.

We have big bass in every place I fish at.

If I'm seeing this here and a 9# was caught in Maine come on do the math.

I fished hard to get my pb night and morning. I find the bass are bigger as the night turns to day from shore. Be very stealthy because they spook easy. That's the key I make not one sound and even close my bail on my spinning reel softly too.

I'm afraid to use a bait caster because of the click after a cast when we crank it, in that quiet.

It's not the 5 to 8#ers making all these baby bass it's the bigger ladies making these babies.

The local DEEP as there called now can only use the shock system in the shallows.

Now there was a 12# bass killed with the weed chopper in Lakeville,ct. That should of gotten every fisherman's attention.

I use my polarized glasses and scan the water while I'm fishing. Even while I land a fish. These big gals show up like ghosts.

Trust me I'm telling you the truth.

I must have put a thousands of miles on my two stroke street legal dirtbikes and remembered every decent looking place to fish at these could be up to 30 to 40 acres of water that's down stream from bigger well known lakes.

We have to be stealthy, walk softly, don't even coff, don't sneeze. I coff' d one morning as I arrived at my spot and watched a large wake going away from me.

At two of my spots in elevated on the shoreline about 3' so I can see in the water quite a distance. I'm on a man made dam/ roadway that was used for water power over 200 years ago. I had an old man stop and tell me about the mill that was there. I find the history of my area great too. Now it's almost time to fish and fish hard again. I know there are record breakers out there. Trust me if I'm seeing them here you have to have them too. Where do all the bass fry come from?

You gotta believe, man.

[Shane J]

Um, Bill... 5-8 pounders spawn baby basses . Not exactly sure what the rest was about, either. If you think a world record bass is coming from Connecticut, you're trippin'.

[Brian Needham]

Shane I think his point was this:

 

if a 12# bass was shocked up/killed in CT, we are somewhat foolish it believe MUCH bigger fish can not be found in more southern waters.

 

and for the most part I can buy that. Who knows what swims in the water?

There is probably a world record swimming in several lakes across the country, never to be seen or caught, but they are there, lurking.

[Shane J]

Ok, yeah, I could see that. It certainly won't be a Northern state, though. State records, oh yeah. World record is coming from the South (probably Mexico).

[Catt]

Texas has been doing this since mid-70s

I workrd for the American Sportsman Club & biologist were using three 1,000 acre ponds south of Houston.

[A-Jay]

Um, Bill... 5-8 pounders spawn baby basses . Not exactly sure what the rest was about, either. If you think a world record bass is coming from Connecticut, you're trippin'.

 

X2

 

The Connecticut state record fish is a 12 bass caught over 50 years ago.  Seeing a similar size fish, although a bummer it was killed, is encouraging for that state's record chasers.  But a world record size fish would almost have to be twice that size.  Never say never, but if there were even a few caught in the high teens any time is the states history, I'd be more of a believer. 

 

A-Jay

[Catt]

Some thing else to think about concerning the number of big bass caught in every lake in Texas.

There is only 1 natural lake the the entire state...Caddo!

All the bass are a result of stocking & genetic research programs.

[WRB]

Texas has been doing this since mid-70s

I workrd for the American Sportsman Club & biologist were using three 1,000 acre ponds south of Houston.

Is that when the FLMB stocking program started in Texas?

San Diego city lakes used small 5 acre ponds (1959) where lake Miramar is now located to raise fingerlings to bass about 5 per pound, then transplanted those into Upper Otay to grow to about 2 lbs before stocking Lower Otay for public fishing. The food base was all natural, whatever was available in the ponds and Upper Otay lake the normal prey sources were threadfin shad, bluegill, crappie, crawdads, no NLMB to spawn with.

The goal wasn't to raise giant bass, they wanted to increase the average size bass from 2 lbs to 3 lbs, for the recreational angler, they had no idea at that time the FLMB would grow to be giants at the start of this program.

Tom

PS, Texas has excellent fishery management folks and you are fortunate to fish there for 4 decades.

[F14A-B]

Uhhhh... So now I know what the local seafood shops are selling ...... Prawns!!!!!

Dang.... Those things are huge!

[Catt]

Texas ShareLunker bass start @ 13 #s

Since 1987 there has been 557 bass placed in the program from 65 public bodies of water & over a dozen private.

Fork holds the record for number at 256 & the largest at 18.18#, Alan Henry & O.H. Ivie are tied at 25 for second.

I don't think any state can compete with Texas for shear number of bass caught annually over 10 lbs.

[South FLA]

Texas ShareLunker bass start @ 13 #s

Since 1987 there has been 557 bass placed in the program from 65 public bodies of water & over a dozen private.

Fork holds the record for number at 256 & the largest at 18.18#, Alan Henry & O.H. Ivie are tied at 25 for second.

I don't think any state can compete with Texas for shear number of bass caught annually over 10 lbs.

 

I would say Florida could if the FWC was as proactive as TX! 

[Shane J]

Yeah, but no. Nobody can hang with Texas. In the states, Texas has it!

[bigbill]

All I'm after is to break the ct state record of 12#14oz. I know it's out there.

A world record bass I really don't think so. I know we have bigger bass than 12# here. If we have them then every state has them too there not being caught because there smart. There very aware to warning noises that are out of the norm. I put a lot of hours to see exactly what we have here. For me catching a PB of 10# was never a goal. I never dreamed of landing a big bass here. Seeing this opened up my thoughts we do have bigger decent bass here. Now how big I'm not sure yet. I'm just going fishing as I always do to challenge the numbers of bass I catch on each trip. I don't get too serious about it, I'm out there having fun. I love throwing new and different lures and practicing different presentations. I'm just having fun. I keep my quest for a new state record on the burner so be it if it happens. It's like a carrot in front of a donkey it gets me out of bed and keeps me going.

Texas? Where was the world record bass caught here? Georgia?

No matter we're you live, wether you have a boat, or fish from shore, fish hard, fish more often. You just maybe surprised.

Get out there in the early am when these bigger gals are near the shoreline feeding before and as the sun rises. Get in the zone and stay motivated. If we want it were going to have to earn it.

[Catt]

Uhh I think the world record came from Japan

[Mr_Scrogg]

Before that wasnt it a Georgia Bass??

[WRB]

The Japanese bass 22 lbs 4 oz is tied with The Georgia bass 22 lbs 3 oz, there is a 2 oz rule, must be 2+ oz heavier to establish a new world record.

We know for a fact what all the details of the (Kurita) Japan bass is, the (Perry) bass remains questionable, all hearsay, no facts.

Tom

[Catt]

The Perry & Kurita bass are accepted by the IGFA so there is no dispute!

[roadwarrior]

Regarding carrying capacity...just a data point.  Dottie (25lbs) came out of Dixon Lake (70 acres).  Sure, lots of trout stocked in Dixon...but lots of fishing pressure too.

 

So, big fish can come out of small lakes. As has already been mentioned, it remains to be seen that even with prawns on the menu, does this new lake have the conditions (depth, water temp, etc.) to produce the record...

 

And that's the real record...

 

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[Drewski73]

Gary Schwartz developed white tail deer ranches to grow record deer, his Tecomate seed co is famous.

Schwartz hired John Jones and his team of biologist to build his lakes, Schwartz is in Laredo TX.

Gene Lau tired this in Florida several years ago and was wiped out by poachers, I don't know of any private lakes in California raising bass, the water is too expensive and importing any type of none native prey is impossible. Giant bass in CA just happened, wasn't planned or managed. Texas has a good fishery management system, California does it by neglect.

Tom

Many of the giant bass in CA eat hatchery raised, state planted trout dont they? Isnt it sort of the same thing?

[WRB]

All of CA's lakes that have recorded giant bass catches are public lakes, come out and catch them, lots of folks have tried!

To answer to the question about planted trout, the trout are planted in SoCal in the winter months when the water is cold enough to support trout in the reservoirs that have bass populations. Most trout plants stopped about 5 years ago in the bass lakes because hatchery raised trout are considered a non native fish where native salmon or steelhead may have existed before the lakes were damed. Lake Hodges 20.4 lb FLMB, no trout ever planted there.

No it's not close to being the same as Schwartz feeding program in private small lakes. CA doesn't hold the all tackle world record, holds a few line class records accepted by the IGFA.

Tom

[primetime]

I have been trying to grow a 12lb plus fish in a pond in my county that is about 2 acres, loaded with cover, has sandy flats, 2 underwater springs, great amount of the right weeds vs. timber, and average depth is 6', but a good 1/3 has some places near cool springs up to 14' deep and we plant structure and rock piles all over. Shiners get huge and up to 12", craws,eels, gizzard shad, bluegill, carp, creek chubs, fatheads......so much food, last years fry are now exactly 1 year old and are 14.5-15.5" and fat-2lbs....However, about a dozen people fish it, several have one lots of respected tournaments, and we all remove slots which are now any fish in 18-21" that is not young, Bottom line, artificials will get you the 2-6lbers with a 6 being a good catch because they won;t move for anything excet a giant shiner over 10", or huge eel......I have tried shiners of average size, nothing over 5, then tossed in 6 12" shiners about a lb....each one was smashed within a minute being in the water, same spot, and all fish were 7-10....Moral of story....It is hard to grow big fish first of all, and second, they get tougher to catch as they learn, and the bigger they get, the more food they need, and if you can't keep ratios just right, they will not get to be a record, plus in order to get a fish to hit your lure, then land it with all the cover needed is an accomplishment and it is impressive, exciting and takes as much skill as flipping a patch of weeds on any lake and getting that "right cast right time fish"....I remember when I lived in Ny the record was 11.9 from Long Island NY in a Lake not known for 5lb plus fish as that is huge on long Island, a 7 is very rare. The record was caught by a young child who went fishing with dad for first time on a fly rod, fished at boat ramp middle of day, was struggling casting with a popper when 4 feet from shore a fish almost 12lbs is caught.....Luck is involved, and should that count since it was just as random as getting hit by lighting or winning lottery....lake was Blydenburg Park and I remember as a Kid fishing it hard a few times and never doing better than 3lbs and lake had lots of fish that seemed stunted...tons of pressure.

[J Francho]

The NY record is 11-4, from Buckhorn Lake, Otsego Co. Caught on a spinnerbait in 1987 by John Higbie.

[F14A-B]

I've seen it a lot ! Mule ear wild shiners catch the biggest of big! I am speaking of Golden shiners as it relates to Florida waters....