Comfortably Numb Posted March 30, 2014 Posted March 30, 2014 Buddy and did a full service on our old reels today. Only took about 3 hours to do six 201's. Really easy to do following this Youtube Vid. So dont be afraid and save 30 bucks or so per reel. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 These videos are ok for an interim service, but If you did six reels in three hours, you didn't come any where near what a pro service involves. Granted there's shipping to consider, but on multiple reels it's not bad. After the member's discount is applied I'm charging <$20 ea. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 31, 2014 Super User Posted March 31, 2014 These videos are ok for an interim service, but If you did six reels in three hours, you didn't come any where near what a pro service involves. Granted there's shipping to consider, but on multiple reels it's not bad. After the member's discount is applied I'm charging <$20 ea. Thats is so basic that Mike should be laughing at it, I know I do everytime someone recommends it over a pro servicing. That is no way what a proper cleaning and servicing should be. Also to the poster $30.00 is way to high for a COMPLETE reel brake down and cleaning... This is an ok vid to basically spread old grease/oil and with new...I would never recommend this vid.. Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 I agree with them^. In the video, he didn't flush or clean anything with solvents. Adding a drop of oil on a bearing with out flushing it first is in a way hindering the performance. More and more oil doesn't give more performance. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 31, 2014 Super User Posted March 31, 2014 Thats is so basic that Mike should be laughing at it, I know I do everytime someone recommends it over a pro servicing. That is no way what a proper cleaning and servicing should be. Also to the poster $30.00 is way to high for a COMPLETE reel brake down and cleaning... This is an ok vid to basically spread old grease/oil and with new...I would never recommend this vid.. From a man with a lifetime of experience Salute! Quote
Maico1 Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 Guess people have a different definition to the understanding of a Full Service...... Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 31, 2014 Super User Posted March 31, 2014 The factory will never put out a full brake down, deep cleaning video. Mostly because they don't have the time to do each reel as the independants service shop do. That pile of reels is probably the 1000's of store returns they see. The actual warranty jobs are in the bags they only gave you a brief glance of in the vid. On my bench I can do 4 of the 200B series Curado's an 8hr day, and that is deep scrubbed/cleaned and polished were needed... Im almost sure Mike and probably JF follow just about the same routine... Good Luck & Tight Lines All! 1 Quote
BobP Posted March 31, 2014 Posted March 31, 2014 When I do a 100% clean and lube, I disassemble every part down to a bare frame. The process from start to finish takes 2-3 hours, not including time for the parts to dry after cleaning. I don't suggest anyone try to do this unless they have the time and a good hands-on familiarity with the reel based on taking it apart and putting it back together again and again. If you clean/lube the gears, drag, bearings, level wind, and brake raceway, you're 75% of the way to a complete service but there's still a lot of dirt hiding in a reel that can only be removed by 100% disassembly and immersion/scrubbing in a cleaning solution - or alternatively, by using an ultrasonic cleaner with perhaps not quite as much disassembly. I do it because I can and because I enjoy the process and the end result. On my lightly used reels, about every 2 yrs seems good enough, as long as some re-lubing is done in the interim. But if you think "life is too short" to seriously maintain your reels, having a good independent shop do it is dirt cheap considering the time, expertise, and experience that goes into the process. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted March 31, 2014 Super User Posted March 31, 2014 When I do a 100% clean and lube, I disassemble every part down to a bare frame. The process from start to finish takes 2-3 hours, not including time for the parts to dry after cleaning. I don't suggest anyone try to do this unless they have the time and a good hands-on familiarity with the reel based on taking it apart and putting it back together again and again. If you clean/lube the gears, drag, bearings, level wind, and brake raceway, you're 75% of the way to a complete service but there's still a lot of dirt hiding in a reel that can only be removed by 100% disassembly and immersion/scrubbing in a cleaning solution - or alternatively, by using an ultrasonic cleaner with perhaps not quite as much disassembly. I do it because I can and because I enjoy the process and the end result. On my lightly used reels, about every 2 yrs seems good enough, as long as some re-lubing is done in the interim. But if you think "life is too short" to seriously maintain your reels, having a good independent shop do it is dirt cheap considering the time, expertise, and experience that goes into the process. X2.... Quote
Super User Raul Posted April 1, 2014 Super User Posted April 1, 2014 I do my own reels for a simple reason, down here south of the border there´s nobody I can trust my reels to, if I don´t trust anybody today less I trusted anybody 30 years ago, had to learn to do it by myself. You don´t "save" 30 bucks by having your reel serviced by a profesional like DVT or RM, you invest 30 bucks by having your reel serviced by any of these gentlemen. Quote
OnthePotomac Posted April 1, 2014 Posted April 1, 2014 Here you go. Start with this one, then view the others in sequence. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLpO74dWuoE Quote
Super User F14A-B Posted April 1, 2014 Super User Posted April 1, 2014 Nice sales pitch.... I just believe the man is trying to do his own work. To each his own.. Quote
Comfortably Numb Posted April 5, 2014 Author Posted April 5, 2014 No prob all. I now am better informed on what a complete cleaning is and will send them out over the winter to one of you guys. That being said my reels are like 20 years old (never cleaned) and my partial service improved performance imensly. Would you reccomend what I did every season and your thorough breakdown every few years? Thanks Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 5, 2014 Posted April 5, 2014 It really depends on use and conditions. I see some reels every other year that look hardly touched and some after 6 months that look like they've been torture tested. I recommend annual deep cleaning with good interim service like you do on an as needed basis. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 5, 2014 Super User Posted April 5, 2014 Lol, sales pitch? Ok bud. I'd say it's takes about an hour of applied time to properly clean a reel. However, it takes several hours total, due to drying, soaking, etc. somewhere I have pics of what a break down looks like. If a part can be removed, it's removed and hand scrubbed, rinsed, and dried. No sales pitch here, just plain uncommon sense and elbow grease. 1 Quote
Super User .RM. Posted April 5, 2014 Super User Posted April 5, 2014 Lol, sales pitch? Ok bud. I'd say it's takes about an hour of applied time to properly clean a reel. However, it takes several hours total, due to drying, soaking, etc. somewhere I have pics of what a break down looks like. If a part can be removed, it's removed and hand scrubbed, rinsed, and dried. No sales pitch here, just plain uncommon sense and elbow grease. X2... Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 5, 2014 Super User Posted April 5, 2014 This is academic at best, but I just timed myself. Chronarch 201e7 with a Hawgtech handle and cork knobs. 11 minutes to completely disassemble. 17 minutes to hand scrub all the parts. The only thing I did not break down was the latch on the VBS access door. I've been there, done that. It's impossible to get the springs and bbs back in without a little grease, and then I'd have have to degrease it anyway. Generally, an E series takes me about 40 minutes to put back together. The bearings will need to soak for a couple hours, and the parts need to dry still. Add in the casting tests, and it's well over two hours for one reel alone, and easily 8 hours of elapsed time. Do it once, and do it right. This reel is two seasons old. It cleaned like this last winter. When I bought it, I simply flushed the bearings, removed some of the excess grease, and added Carbontex washers. The thing looks brand new inside. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 I go out of my way to be a contributing member of the forum community and not be seen as simply trolling for sales even though I pay for a sponsorship. RM, JF, Averry, myself and others share a lot of free advice and when we do get paying jobs, make little over minimum wage after overhead. No one's getting rich off the services we offer. By all rights, I probably should pitch my services more and not feel guilty about it. I never oversell and readily advise against customers spending money that's not in their best interest. Sorry if this comes off as a rant Thanks everyone. Mike 7 Quote
T_Nix35 Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Hey Mike, what do you use to degrease your bearings? I saw a video where a guy used "Pedros Oranj Peelz Citrus Degreaser" it is a bike bearing degreaser and he seemed to like it a lot. Quote
Maico1 Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 I go out of my way to be a contributing member of the forum community and not be seen as simply trolling for sales even though I pay for a sponsorship. RM, JF, Averry, myself and others share a lot of free advice and when we do get paying jobs, make little over minimum wage after overhead. No one's getting rich off the services we offer. By all rights, I probably should pitch my services more and not feel guilty about it. I never oversell and readily advise against customers spending money that's not in their best interest. Sorry if this comes off as a rant Thanks everyone. Mike With all the support you give this Forum I for one do not feel you need to explain yourself. You and all the the others who service reels do a bang up job giving out free advice. Your posts alone have earned you the respect you deserve here on BR and rightly so. As a board sponsoring individual you have every right to promote your product more than you do and I for one thank you for being a sponsor for if this board did not have sponsors where would it be today. Oh and since I do all my own work on all my reels this is not a sales pitch for any of those who do service work on this board. 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted April 6, 2014 Super User Posted April 6, 2014 Maico1, a Fortune 500 Company. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted April 6, 2014 Super User Posted April 6, 2014 I go out of my way to be a contributing member of the forum community and not be seen as simply trolling for sales even though I pay for a sponsorship. RM, JF, Averry, myself and others share a lot of free advice and when we do get paying jobs, make little over minimum wage after overhead. No one's getting rich off the services we offer. By all rights, I probably should pitch my services more and not feel guilty about it. I never oversell and readily advise against customers spending money that's not in their best interest. Sorry if this comes off as a rant Thanks everyone. Mike I appreciate all the helpful advice, but I don't trust ME working on my reels. Mike does a GREAT job at a very reasonable price. My last service was two Curados supertuned. These babies came back PERFECT! Quote
gripnrip Posted April 6, 2014 Posted April 6, 2014 Other than doing light maintenance, I've never torn down a reel myself. Since I am in the process of upgrading my reels, I'm definitely going to take better care of them. I'll be sending them to someone for sure. Oh and if you don't like sales pitches, I'd ignore a bunch of the advice on this forum..... I am not sponsored by anyone. I have no agenda. I promise you that if I give you a sales pitch, it is because I believe in a product or service. Not because I get anything in return. So......what I'm saying is this, most of the fellas on here has a sales pitch. Use the advice or the suggestion. Or don't. There's no need to disrespect anyone for helping out. Quote
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