Livingston Lures

[tommiller76]

I have recently bought some Livingstons that emit the sound and I was wondering what you guys out there that already have them what you think of them. Mine are still on there way and while I sit here waiting to try them I was thinking of how to best fish them. I have two in the mid range diving series and one of the jerk bait type. So what is your take and how do you fish them?

[BassinLou]

Livingston lures has been a hot topic lately. Here is the ongoing thread.  

http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/132275-livingston-lures/re 

[Comfortably Numb]

The chirp sound you can barely hear and the rattles sound drowns them out. Solid crank but there are better for less money

[Jay Ell Gee]

The chirp sound you can barely hear and the rattles sound drowns them out. Solid crank but there are better for less money

Have you actually dove under water and tested this theory? Recorded it extensively via underwater microphone? Just curious. Inquiring minds want to know.

And for what it's worth to the OP... I got on a solid bite with the jr size topwater walking bait in extremely muddy conditions last weekend. Did it help? No idea. However, it's the only topwater that did.

[Koofy Smacker]

The chirp sound you can barely hear and the rattles sound drowns them out. Solid crank but there are better for less money

Most of the rattles will fall back on the retrieve and dull down considerably. The EBS magnifies greatly under water. Standard physics shows that sound travels much better through liquids than gases and it is the case here as well.

 

Have you actually dove under water and tested this theory? Recorded it extensively via underwater microphone? Just curious. Inquiring minds want to know.

And for what it's worth to the OP... I got on a solid bite with the jr size topwater walking bait in extremely muddy conditions last weekend. Did it help? No idea. However, it's the only topwater that did.

While I have not done any recording, I have had them in both swimming pools as well as in fish tanks and the noise is considerably louder than one would think.

[Jay Ell Gee]

This is about what I expected to hear.

We have a local jighead company that makes a jighead with a rattle chamber in it for saltwater fishing.

They have proven audio recordings with audible sounds under *perfect* conditions (aka tank) at 200 FEET. A small rattle. Again, this is under perfect, controlled conditions. However, it stands to reason that their technology should be more than "slightly" audible under water, even in the field.

But hey, I would hate for this thread to go the way of the dodo. I will reserve my opinions on them until I thoroughly test them. Other folks are probably in the same boat. What I can say for sure is that I will be throwing it this year.

[Zoff]

Well... I hope they work 'cause I just baught a bunch of them.  Caught a sale and had a coupon so it cost me about 6 bucks a piece...

[TorqueConverter]

If the rattle can be heard over the chirps in the air, then it can be heard over the chirps under the water.  In the case of the Dive Master Jr, the chirps are so quiet that the sound of the split rings rubbing against the hook hangers, as the hooks swing, drowns out the chirping. 

[Hoytman#1]

I just bought a few myself and haven't been able to fish them yet. I am excited to throw the Jerkbait I have it modified to suspend just how I want and sometimes I will let it sit for upwards of 30 seconds during my retrieve. To me this where the technology will shine a motionless bait that still makes noise! Gonna put this theory to the test today.

[Koofy Smacker]

If the rattle can be heard over the chirps in the air, then it can be heard over the chirps under the water.  In the case of the Dive Master Jr, the chirps are so quiet that the sound of the split rings rubbing against the hook hangers, as the hooks swing, drowns out the chirping. 

Except you are missing a key point. Any lures with beads in them will sound loud when you shake them but when on a retrieve several lures have beads which change location to aid in the cast and then the dive by moving either towards the back or towards the front. This is evident when you look at lures such as several in the Megabass line, and most plastic saltwater plugs. The weights roll towards the back of the lure to eliminate spin keep the weight right in the wind cutting point, and then fall back into a slot to help the lures get down to aid in consistency. Just because a bait has beads in it in no way shape or form says that it is going to make a noise when on a retrieve.

 

Now back to the Livingston's. Ill take the DM14 for example. There is a large bead right in the nose where the bill connects and two near the rear hook hanger just behind the battery. The one in the nose falls right into a slot while the two near the rear have only very little room to move around . Yes when you shake it in your hand you can hear it very loud, well over the EBS sound. However, on the retrieve these balls do not make much noise at all and this is where the EBS comes in.

 

I will try my best to get a good picture of what I am talking about

[Koofy Smacker]

Notice the left bead chamber extends to the nose, and in both ends is a slot which it falls into where it is held in place. The rear ones are free to move but when pushed on each other they wedge in which they do on the retrieve.