Convince Me To Use Flouro?

[WIGuide]

As a leader I don't think the brand is particularly important. I would recommend Seaguar AbrazX

 

For mainline manageability is a primary concern. Seaguar Tatsu is THE BOMB!

For the price it should be! I'm more than happy with my Berkley 100% Fluoro

[Loop_Dad]

You answered your question right there. Braid and mono float which creates a larger bow in your line. Some "sink" but not like fluoro. Fluoro is a sinking, dense line which transmites vibrations on a slack line. Braid doesnt transmit anything on a slack line.

 

Ok makes sense. So we are basically talking about float vs sink, bow vs not bow. I agree. Less effect in shallows and more effect in deep.

[rippin-lips]

USE FLUORO! Convinced?

[TorqueConverter]

I went from mono to fluoro for a couple of years and now almost all braid. I didn't notice about flouro's more slack line sensitivity than braid.

 

But why is that flouro is more sensitive in slack line? I mean flouro is dense, but it stretches. So lets say a fish pulls the end of line a bit, the amount is reduced more with flouro due to more stretch in the line, isn't it?

 

I watch line when I do slack line. I seem to be able to see the line move just fine with braid. And possibly the fact I line watch might be the reason I didn't notice about said slack line sensitivey of flouro, because I am seeing it before sensing it.

 

BTW, to op, one thing I miss about flouro is because it sinks, it produces less slack with bottom contact baits than braid which floats.

 

Fluorocarbon fishing lines stretch but the stretch is not an elastic (stretch and return) like you see in monofilament lines.  The stretching that is a result of elasticity in a mono line is a healthy behavior.  The type of stretch you see in fluros is a plastic stretch.  Lines with high plasticity will stretch and stay stretched.  This is an unhealthy behavior for a fishing line because the line has become permanently deformed at the eras where the line has stretched.

 

The elastic stretch of mono occurs are very light loads, such as hook sets, fishing a fish ect, where as the plastic stretch of a flurocarbon line should only occur at loads approaching line failure.  You should see no stretch from elasticity in a fluorocarbon line and the only time any stretching should be observed is when pushing the line to it's breaking point.

 

A good Fluro should have no stretch when fishing and catching.  Do to this lack of elasticity, all the power of a hookset and fishing fish goes to the knot.  Knot failure is more common with fluro than with monos typically.  Some people even believe that you can "burn the knot" with the stuff but that is most likely the result of people making up audacious claims to explain away knot failure not realizing that elasticity protects the integrity of a knot. 

[Mikell]

lol i didnt expect this to have such a response i used floro as a leader today and its just not for me 2 casts and 2 backlashes cus the knot stuck on the guides,  i used and albright, i tied it correct and yes i clipped the tag ends down to the knot and it still got stuck on the guides first two casts so its not for me lol

[Jeff H]

I can't convince myself to use it.

I too have failed in my attempts

[rippin-lips]

lol i didnt expect this to have such a response i used floro as a leader today and its just not for me 2 casts and 2 backlashes cus the knot stuck on the guides, i used and albright, i tied it correct and yes i clipped the tag ends down to the knot and it still got stuck on the guides first two casts so its not for me lol

Hate say it but your knot wasn't right then. I use leaders fairly often and a good many of my rods are micro guides and I haven't experienced knots getting stuck in the guide train. I use the Albright special for leader to braid connections. Here's a link if you wanna give it another try.

http://youtu.be/IEYeUl5bBCA

[Mikell]

Hate say it but your knot wasn't right then. I use leaders fairly often and a good many of my rods are micro guides and I haven't experienced knots getting stuck in the guide train. I use the Albright special for leader to braid connections. Here's a link if you wanna give it another try.

http://youtu.be/IEYeUl5bBCA

thanks for the input and the tip maybe it wasnt but it looked just like the pics ive seen of example and demos of it so ill just stick to braid for now

[RipSomeLips]

okay so i bought some sunline super floro im gonna use it as a leader, can any instruct the best way to tie it on? best knot? should that knot be able to reel through my guides or should it be that long?

From reading several experts and personal experience...The double uni knot is the way to go. I use flurocarbon as a leader to fire line and this is the only knot that works well.

[nowicki2005]

thanks for the input and the tip maybe it wasnt but it looked just like the pics ive seen of example and demos of it so ill just stick to braid for now

No offense but to give up on using fluro because it is getting "stuck" through the guides and to not think that it is something you're doing wrong wouldnt be smart. You're clearly tying the knot wrong. I don't get how you don't realize its user error on the knot and try it again? If people out there use the same knots to tie on their leaders and never have this problem its obviously something on your end.

[rippin-lips]

^^^ No need to be harsh about it.

Op give it another shot. You'll love the slack line sensitivity of fluoro. Though sometimes it's not for everyone. Only you can decide that part.

[Hogsticker]

How is fluoro the problem for your knot not passing through the guides? If you're back lashing with a fluoro leader tied to something else your leader is much to long. Only need about 2 feet tops. I understand people having line management issues with fluoro as a main line, but not as a leader. Are your guides super micros?

[Hogsticker]

Oh I see. Backlash from the knot hitting the guides

[Mikell]

well ive got the floro still so i can give it another try lol and just for the record minutes after i tied the leader i went out and practiced and it didnt catch on the guide but what caused the whole aggravation was that as soon as i went out to actually fish it backlashed twice cus it got caught. Now you cant tell me that wouldnt frustrate you when youve been counting the hours to get off work just to go fish a new spot a local tipped you off too and the first two casts cause you to backlash? lol

 

no offense taken though lol everything is a learning process

[Hattrick7]

I tied on a fluoro leader with mono and man the sensitivity is pretty amazing. Was using a t rigged worm, set the hook, and right when the bass jumped it shook the hook. I had another one on and then it came undone.

Is the hookset a little different than a mono line?