Convince Me To Use Flouro?

[Mikell]

Im thinking about getting some flouro line and im not sold 100%

1)  It seems really stiff

2) Ive heard that it bird nests easyily or is hard to recover from a birdnest with it

 

Im not sure whichc reel I want to put it on but my setups are

7' M St Croix LTB Pflueger Summit Baitcast I use this for Soft Plastics Some frogging and kind of all around

7'3 MH Duckett Ghost with a Shimano Caenan Baitcast, this is for jigging and hard platic action lures cranks swims spinners etc. and heavy frogging.

 

So if I should get flouro what should I get and why?

[lmbfisherman]

Why not just get floro and use it as a leader?  (I do all the time) assuming you are using braided line already. 

 

Simply put floro makes your line almost invisible, more abrasive resistant than braid and due to the lower stretch is more sensitive than using mono. 

 

Frankly, not sure why anyone has to convince you.  If you don't like it, then don't use it...if you're catching fish without it no reason to change.

[Missourifishin]

 If you don't like it, then don't use it...if you're catching fish without it no reason to change.

I couldn't agree more. This is why I'm still using mono.

[Mikell]

Ive never tried it so therefore im not sure if i "dont like it" that was the whole point of posting this simply to get some pros and cons?

what is some good floro to use for leader then?

[ColdSVT]

Try it...seaguar abrazx or invisx, or sunline is great stuff. More sensitive than mono, less stretch too

It does take alittle getting used to compared to mono but it works great

If ya dont like it go back to what ya like and know. I like mono, flouro and braid for certain applications lol

I like braid for topwater and punching, mono for crankin, and flouro for evertthing else lol

[Todd2]

Pros - More sensitive than mono\copolymer, less visible if you think that matters, more dense so it sinks better and some would argue better abrasion resistance.

Cons - Some have weaker knot strength, cost, and one good "bend" from a backlash and you are done.....IMO

I tried several brands, but always come back to copolymer in clear blue fluorescent. I can see it very good in most all conditions and that makes it more "sensitive" to me.

[iabass8]

The biggest reason i use fluoro on almost everything is its slack line sensitivity. Braid doesnt have any and mono isnt as dense. Nothing beats braid when using a tight line. Once theres a bow in the line or you are letting the bait fall on slack line, fluoros sensitivity is unmatched. Its abrasion resistance is also great. As far as handling and memory, use kvd line and lure conditioner and all your problems go away. Tie the right knot and check your line and you wont have any mystery breakoffs

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

Well I mostly use braid and tried fluoro last year and what is considered a very good brand Sunline Super Sniper. I found it to be very stretchy line. It was almost like work dragging bottom presentation through vegetation weeds and stuff, just not as efficient. It did behave nicely on the spool though and line coils were minimal to what I was expecting. I didnt even spray it with line conditioner which is recommended for fluoro and an added expense BTW.

Never got to notice the slack line sensitivity its said to have. I notice though it has less overall sensitivity than braid. With the same bottom dragging presentations I get more feedback from braid not doubt. On moving lures less feedback sent with fluoro for sure.

[Lucky Craft Man]

The biggest reason i use fluoro on almost everything is its slack line sensitivity. Braid doesnt have any and mono isnt as dense. Nothing beats braid when using a tight line. Once theres a bow in the line or you are letting the bait fall on slack line, fluoros sensitivity is unmatched. Its abrasion resistance is also great. As far as handling and memory, use kvd line and lure conditioner and all your problems go away. Tie the right knot and check your line and you wont have any mystery breakoffs

 

^^^  This paragraph says it all.  The only thing I will add is that it sinks, which I like for every application, except topwater.

[doyle8218]

I don't think you should have to be convinced to use it. As with all fishing tools(line, reels, rods. tackle, etc) it is a matter of preference.

[Raul]

due to the lower stretch is more sensitive than using mono. 

 

Not true fluoro stretches as much as Nylon and actually once stretched it´s stretched for good, it won´t "bounce back" like nylon does, the increased sensitivity is because fluro is denser than Nylon.

[lmbfisherman]

Not true fluoro stretches as much as Nylon and actually once stretched it´s stretched for good, it won´t "bounce back" like nylon does, the increased sensitivity is because fluro is denser than Nylon.

Thanks for the correction.

[Lucky Craft Man]

Not true fluoro stretches as much as Nylon and actually once stretched it´s stretched for good, it won´t "bounce back" like nylon does, the increased sensitivity is because fluro is denser than Nylon.

 

Well, actually, this is where the "low stretch" claim comes from.  Once you use fluoro for a while, it will stretch out, but not spring back, which means it will stretch less the next time it is loaded.  Though, what hasn't been studied is how much of a reduction in strength is experience in the fluoro once it is stretched out (i.e., once it has passed it's yield).

[Flippinhook]

I use fluoro but I'm about to switch over to lake fork powersilk . There's not a whole lot of info on it but it's a copolymer line 11 percent stretch super thin .. I talked with with lake fork about it and asked would it b good for jigs and flipping and they were like yea ur gonna love it if u don't like fluoro .. I think fluoro is over rated and expensive. I really don't care about the invisibility factor as I really don't think it matters much ..we do have some clear lakes in arkansas and I'll get bit on braid just as much as my partner throwing fluoro. However I really like braid just on my topwater rod and frog rod as well as for punching

[WIGuide]

Pros: Slightly less visible than mono and much less visible than braid; more abrasion resistant; more dense which helps in sink rate as well as getting crankbaits slightly deeper; another advantage from the density mentioned here is sensitivity is higher especially on a slack line.

 

Cons: More expensive; slightly stiffer (depending on brand); loses strength quicker when nicked.

 

Overall I think it's better, especially for certain situations. I use Berkley Professional Grade Fluorocarbon and I've had zero issues with knot strength, line memory, or knot problems. You'll want to make sure you check your line frequently because as stated, fluoro seems too lose it's strength a little quicker when beat up, but at the same time it's tougher to beat up so that kind of balances out. Since I started using it, I've switched almost exclusively to fluoro because I believe it's better. I think you should go ahead and give it a shot! 

[NathanW]

Im thinking about getting some flouro line and im not sold 100%

1)  It seems really stiff

2) Ive heard that it bird nests easyily or is hard to recover from a birdnest with it

 

Im not sure whichc reel I want to put it on but my setups are

7' M St Croix LTB Pflueger Summit Baitcast I use this for Soft Plastics Some frogging and kind of all around

7'3 MH Duckett Ghost with a Shimano Caenan Baitcast, this is for jigging and hard platic action lures cranks swims spinners etc. and heavy frogging.

 

So if I should get flouro what should I get and why?

 

Just judging by the word "frogging" under both of those setups tells me you should be using Braid. Low stretch doesn't hurt for the soft plastics or jigs either. I like Fluoro, and use a lot of it, but if you start froggin with it... You're ganna have a bad time. If you start throwing hards, back your drag off and after the initial hookset put your thumb down and give it another short jerk to make sure you hooks get through...

 

Clear water? Tie on a leader.

 

Also, be careful about listening to Pro's talk about using fluoro all the time. The line companies make more money off Fluorocarbon line than any other and encourage their Pro's to push it. Not just because of the initial price but also because it needs to be replaced frequently, unlike braid.

 

I see it all the time pros talking about how they "always" fish fluoro mainlines on spinning setups, but then you see them on tournament days fishing a braid mainline.

[ChrisD46]

Fluoro in 6lb ~ 8lb in clear water for drop shot , 8lb ~ 10lb for clear water crank bait and jerk bait , 20lb ~ 25lb for flippin & pitching also in clear water.

[719BassFishing]

Flourocarbon is great for crank baits, spinner baits, jerk baits etc.. monofilament floats and also has a lot of stretch in it. When your'e fishing something like a suspending jerkbait, you don't want the line to float because it wont allow the bait to suspend. Also when using something like a crank bait, the stretch in monofilament can hurt the hook-set seeing how crankbait rods are already very forgiving. Flouro is just a much better line all around. The only thing i recommend mono for is top water.

[Mikell]

okay so i bought some sunline super floro im gonna use it as a leader, can any instruct the best way to tie it on? best knot? should that knot be able to reel through my guides or should it be that long?

[SirSnookalot]

I can't convince myself to use it.

[Loop_Dad]

The biggest reason i use fluoro on almost everything is its slack line sensitivity. Braid doesnt have any and mono isnt as dense. Nothing beats braid when using a tight line. Once theres a bow in the line or you are letting the bait fall on slack line, fluoros sensitivity is unmatched. Its abrasion resistance is also great. As far as handling and memory, use kvd line and lure conditioner and all your problems go away. Tie the right knot and check your line and you wont have any mystery breakoffs

 

I went from mono to fluoro for a couple of years and now almost all braid. I didn't notice about flouro's more slack line sensitivity than braid.

 

But why is that flouro is more sensitive in slack line? I mean flouro is dense, but it stretches. So lets say a fish pulls the end of line a bit, the amount is reduced more with flouro due to more stretch in the line, isn't it?

 

I watch line when I do slack line. I seem to be able to see the line move just fine with braid. And possibly the fact I line watch might be the reason I didn't notice about said slack line sensitivey of flouro, because I am seeing it before sensing it.

 

BTW, to op, one thing I miss about flouro is because it sinks, it produces less slack with bottom contact baits than braid which floats.

[Mikell]

i have braid on both reels, i believe ill just use it for a leader and let it go at that haha

[iabass8]

BTW, to op, one thing I miss about flouro is because it sinks, it produces less slack with bottom contact baits than braid which floats.

You answered your question right there. Braid and mono float which creates a larger bow in your line. Some "sink" but not like fluoro. Fluoro is a sinking, dense line which transmites vibrations on a slack line. Braid doesnt transmit anything on a slack line.

[frogflogger]

okay so i bought some sunline super floro im gonna use it as a leader, can any instruct the best way to tie it on? best knot? should that knot be able to reel through my guides or should it be that long?

There are a number of knots for flouro to braid- I've had good success with the alberto - it goes through the guides well enough.

[roadwarrior]

Pros: Slightly less visible than mono and much less visible than braid; more abrasion resistant; more dense which helps in sink rate as well as getting crankbaits slightly deeper; another advantage from the density mentioned here is sensitivity is higher especially on a slack line.

 

Cons: More expensive; slightly stiffer (depending on brand); loses strength quicker when nicked.

 

As a leader I don't think the brand is particularly important. I would recommend Seaguar AbrazX

 

For mainline manageability is a primary concern. Seaguar Tatsu is THE BOMB!