Super User Raul Posted March 20, 2014 Super User Posted March 20, 2014 I favor the shaky head simply because I don't like to carry much with me and a shaky head is less stuff than a hook and weight.  Do you find one works better than the other?   My friend Rigoberto can´t catch squat with a Texas rig, why ? ---->  T-rigs have the advantage of going out of places where the jighead is more likely to hang up. Quote
Lucky Craft Man Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 in grass i like t-rig, as it comes through it better and has typically a larger profile, in rock and sand, or sparse cover the shaky head is a good tool, in wood it is a toss up, and typically depends on the size of fish i am targeting, typically t-rigs produce larger fish for me...  Mitch  ^^^ This ^^^ Quote
dumfish Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 Simply put, shakey head , wacky, and drop shot, are finesse technics for pressured waters Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 20, 2014 Super User Posted March 20, 2014 Simply put, shakey head , wacky, and drop shot, are finesse technics for pressured waters And a weightless T-Rig! Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 20, 2014 Super User Posted March 20, 2014 And a weightless T-Rig!   Are you referring to a soft bait that is rigged "weedless"? I always thought a Texas Rig involved a weight that was free moving(sliding).  I assume there are many variations across the regions as to what exactly a Texas rig is, but I was taught that it was used with a weight. You could expose the hook for open water, or put the hook back into the bait for a "weedless" approach.  I am not trying to argue, just wondering if it is different in different areas of the country. Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 20, 2014 Super User Posted March 20, 2014 3 Part of a Texas Rig 1. Weight (optional) 2. Hook of your on choosing, point Tex-posed, or baried. 3. Any soft plastic But y'all remember I'm ole school! 2 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 20, 2014 Super User Posted March 20, 2014 To me, a shaky head is a finesse presentation. It's an evolution of the jig worm my grandpa taught my to use on tough days, except it has a longer hook and is weedless. A variation it the standup jig styles like the Megastrike head and Spot Remover. I like a light jig, less than 1/4 oz. and light line - 15-20 lb. braid and leader or 6-8 lb. fluoro. For the worm, I like a floating worm. For the presentation, I cast it out and gently "shake the head" of the bait, as the name suggests. Each twitch causes the tail to drop, and then rise, if you use a floating worm. A Texas rig to me is a bait rigged weed less, with a sliding bullet weight. Period. You can add a bead, peg the weight, whatever, but it had to have those first two elements. You can use many of the same presentations listed in the shaky head section of my post, but for me, a T-rig has all the action on the drop. A shaky head is all about after the drop. There's crossover, for sure. You can use extremely light weights on a T-rig and peg it to get a similar bait. And you can get some big old shaky head jigs - Bobby's got some nice ones in the Megastrike line - and pop a big old monster creature on there. Both will catch, and neither is "wrong." But when I hear each term mentioned, I immediately think of what I just described above. 1 Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 21, 2014 Super User Posted March 21, 2014 3 Part of a Texas Rig 1. Weight (optional) 2. Hook of your on choosing, point Tex-posed, or baried. 3. Any soft plastic But y'all remember I'm ole school! Â Â LOL, how can you have No 1 be a part of a Texas rig, and it be optional???? Quote
frogflogger Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 2 different tools - like a crescent wrench and a box end wrench - both do the job one may be more versatile than the other. Quote
719BassFishing Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 I prefer a shaky head for the colder spring fishing. Once the the water temp gets to about 60-65 I like to use a texas rigged senko with NO bullet weight. The slow fall drives the bass crazy, cant keep em' off your hook! And plus, with a weightless senko, you wont have to carry around weights. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 21, 2014 Super User Posted March 21, 2014 I prefer a shaky head for the colder spring fishing. Once the the water temp gets to about 60-65 I like to use a texas rigged senko with NO bullet weight. The slow fall drives the bass crazy, cant keep em' off your hook! And plus, with a weightless senko, you wont have to carry around weights. Â Â So you just hook a Senko weedless then? Â Before this thread I never realized how big of a hassle carrying weights can be. I wonder what some people do with their change?? Just toss it because it is too much to carry around. Quote
719BassFishing Posted March 21, 2014 Posted March 21, 2014 So you just hook a Senko weedless then? Â Before this thread I never realized how big of a hassle carrying weights can be. I wonder what some people do with their change?? Just toss it because it is too much to carry around. Yes I just hook a senko weedless. No weight. Sometimes if its windy ill put a pinch weight on. This is my most effective bait when the fish are bedding. And the only reason why i mentioned the weights is because the initial post says that he doesn't like carrying weights around. Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted March 21, 2014 Super User Posted March 21, 2014 LOL, how can you have No 1 be a part of a Texas rig, and it be optional???? A weight isnt a requirement for a rig to be a "texas rig". A weighted texas rig uses a weight. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 21, 2014 Super User Posted March 21, 2014 A weight isnt a requirement for a rig to be a "texas rig". A weighted texas rig uses a weight. Â Â Just hooking it weedless makes it a Texas rig? Where is the rig part of that? Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted March 21, 2014 Super User Posted March 21, 2014 Just hooking it weedless makes it a Texas rig? Where is the rig part of that? You are rigging the bait with a hook... All a wacky rig is is hooking a bait in the middle of it. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 21, 2014 Super User Posted March 21, 2014 This is about shakey head vs texas rig. Both of which can be rigged weedless Quote
Super User Catt Posted March 21, 2014 Super User Posted March 21, 2014 LOL, how can you have No 1 be a part of a Texas rig, and it be optional???? Optional: available to be chosen but not obligatory In the early 60s Texas angler Dave Hawk took an unrigged Creme worm and threaded a sproat hook into the worm making it weedless. Creme sold the worm with a 2/0 hook in the pack. Later a weight was added and it was called a "sliding sinker worm", which became the Texas Rig because of its place of origin. Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 22, 2014 Super User Posted March 22, 2014 A Texas rig to me is a bait rigged weed less, with a sliding bullet weight. Period. Â Â GREAT POST!!!! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 22, 2014 Super User Posted March 22, 2014 To the point of the original question, the sliding weight IS the main difference. Watch what a Texas rigged worm does on the fall and compare it to a shaky head. Goes back to my point about the T-rig being more about the fall than what happens on the bottom. The beauty of a shaky head is the precise control you have after it hit the bottom. Yes, you can peg a T-rig, and yes there jigs like the Biffle head that swivel. There's a billion variations. Knowing why you want to use something can be the key to better catches. Quote
Super User OkobojiEagle Posted March 22, 2014 Super User Posted March 22, 2014 I feel the bite more easily with a jighead/plastic than with a T-rigged plastic. Â Â oe Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted March 22, 2014 Super User Posted March 22, 2014 This is just the way I do it..............texas rig in and around grass and wood, just comes through it better. Shaky head around rock, under docks, and on the edges of deep grass lines etc...works for me. Quote
Brian Needham Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 Just hooking it weedless makes it a Texas rig? Where is the rig part of that? Â Â texas rig is a method of rigging on a hook...... it can be fish light, heavy, or weightless.... pegged or unpegged weight. Â classicly it is done with a sliding weight, but it doesn't have to be, or so the fish say. Â Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 22, 2014 Super User Posted March 22, 2014 I disagree. That's simply rigging it weed less. You can call it "Texas style," or "T-rig style," but when someone says "Texas Rig," anyone that has been around a while will think you mean a bullet weight, a hook, and a plastic, wigged weed less. I realize we're using colloquialisms here, but there has to be some consistency in the nomenclature, and we're talking about 40+ year old rigging that only recently has been transformed by rooks on forums. What is a Carolina rig? Is the weight optional? No. Is the swivel optional? No. What about those mojo weights? Well that's a Mojo rig. Is a weight optional on a drop shot? No. What if you put a leader on the hook? Well, it's a 3-way rig then. What if I use a weed less hook? Then it's a drop shot with a weed less hook. What if I peg my bullet weight on a T-rig and slide the weight up the line, C-rig style? Then call it that. It's not a C-rig though. I probably sound like a rigging nazi here, but on an online forum, it really helps noobs and experienced anglers alike to use established terms when referring to rigs. If you do search on the rigging names, the majority of search results will show a common theme. You might even find the history of the rig. Quote
Brian Needham Posted March 22, 2014 Posted March 22, 2014 I can buy that Francho, and agree.  though with something like the "carolina keeper" I think a swivel CAN be optional.  I have seen 10,000 times on the boards "T rigged weightless senko" and everyone knows what you mean.  but it is "wrong" in the classic "rigging nazi" way, LOL.  I have always though of it as:  t rig as I explained it drop shot is the weight below the hook carolina rig is above the hook  but you are 1000% correct, the meanings have evolved through the internet age.... and not for the better for a new guy perhaps trying to make sense of it all. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 22, 2014 Super User Posted March 22, 2014 But you added the words "Carolina keeper" and "weightless" to the description, lol. That I understand. When someone says they used a T-rigged creature to catch the winning bag, no one thinks it was weightless. Right? 2 Quote
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