ZhouNi Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 just wondering how many of u guys out there use backing when spooling new line one a reel and what do u use as the backing i am currently using 15Lb mono made by zebco. The cheapest stuff i can find at walmart and so far i dont have any problems when i go to cast my lures Quote
Brian Needham Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 there are many guys that use backing around here, then use 50-65 yards of top shot. we have gotten pretty detailed in our backing/topshot methods in past threads...... run a search and you can find some really good info on why,how, and how much. I will look and hunt it up later and post the link to some threads here, but there is lots of good stuff if you want to search in the meantime. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 18, 2014 Super User Posted March 18, 2014 Probably don't need to use backing in a Zebco. 3 Quote
Tartan34 Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I started using 30# SX1 as backing this year on long casting applications. I'm going with the Aaron Martens "lighten the spool" idea....so far, so good. Who knows if really pick up distance....but mentally I do. I would use PP, but I don't like green on my white reels. I use 12# Big Game as backing for my braided applications. Bottom contact, I go straight Flouro. Quote
Toeshots Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I use cheap mono as backing for both FC and braid. FC is expensive so the backing allows me to get more for my money by only replacing the portion of line that will actually come off the spool while fishing. I use backing for braid partially due to cost but more so to help prevent the braid from digging into itself on hooksets. I know some people also use backing with braid to prevent it from slipping on the spool, but I've personally never had that problem. I haven't had any performance issues with either but it is important to tie a neat, slim connecting knot like the Alberto. 3 Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted March 18, 2014 Super User Posted March 18, 2014 I use backing almost all the time. Some of my spinning reels are the only exceptions. When I do I just use mono. There's no need to waste money on something that'll never see the light of day. 1 Quote
tholmes Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Since I use mono 90% of the time, I just fill the spool on a new reel. When I need to add line, i strip some off and add about 60 yards of new line. When I use braid, I fill the spool about 2/3 full of mono and add braid to top it off. Tom Quote
Christian M Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I wouldnt worry about anything if you're using a Zebco, but if you step up to a spinning or casting reel with braided line, backing is a must. Since the braided line has NO stretch, you need mono backing to keep the line from digging into itself and warping your spool. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted March 18, 2014 Super User Posted March 18, 2014 Never had braid warp a spool. I generally use a few turns of mono to keep the braid from slipping on the spool, and fill the rest with braid. 4 Quote
JeziHogg Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I wouldnt worry about anything if you're using a Zebco, but if you step up to a spinning or casting reel with braided line, backing is a must. Since the braided line has NO stretch, you need mono backing to keep the line from digging into itself and warping your spool. Braid wont warp a spool. The only time braid will have any negative impact on a spool is if you're using a finesse spool that has thin walls, it will crush your spool because of the lack of stretch if the drag is to tight. Quote
kingkong85 Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 I do. I use mono and lucky had some laying around so I didn't need to buy any. Quote
tbone1993 Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Probably don't need to use backing in a Zebco. I wouldnt worry about anything if you're using a Zebco, but if you step up to a spinning or casting reel with braided line, backing is a must. Since the braided line has NO stretch, you need mono backing to keep the line from digging into itself and warping your spool. Zebco makes super cheap line that you can find at walmart. Its only useful purpose is for backing or arts and crafts 1 Quote
Mumbly Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 How much backing are you guys using? For example...let's say you are wanting to put braid on a baitcaster. Reel specs show 155 yds of 10lb mono. How much mono backing? (assuming you are using mono backing). Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted March 18, 2014 Super User Posted March 18, 2014 I use backing all the time because fluoro is expensive at $30ish a spool (for the kinds I like anyway). I bought a 2000 yard spool of 12lb line at Cabela's, think it was like 6 bucks and use that. I purposely got bright red line for backing, so when it starts showing after a cast, I can tell how far I am getting down. 1 Quote
ccummins Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Suffix Seige 20 lb mono as backing for braid or flourocarbon on a baitcaster but on my spinning reels and Zebco 33 it is all mono anyway so no need for it. Quote
ccummins Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 How much backing are you guys using? For example...let's say you are wanting to put braid on a baitcaster. Reel specs show 155 yds of 10lb mono. How much mono backing? (assuming you are using mono backing). I maybe use too little but put in an arbor knot and get the center of the spool covered completely 5 or 6 times. That way I am sure to have enough braid to cut out a horrible backlash and continue fishing. Too much backing and you might run out of line at the lake is my opinion. 1 Quote
Super User RoLo Posted March 18, 2014 Super User Posted March 18, 2014 Backing and topping hinges on the 'line material' in question. For braided line, I use a few wraps of tape for backing, then fill the spool with braid. IMO, a few extra yards of braid is a small price to eliminate a migrating junction knot. I used to respool when the knot passed thru the guides, now I respool when it's time to respool Roger Quote
Brian Needham Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/127053-measuring-line-question/?hl=backing http://www.bassresource.com/bass-fishing-forums/topic/126700-backing-questions/?hl=backing this should answer most of the questions...... included "my" method and the "00mod method" and several heavy hitters on the boards responded too. Quote
Loop_Dad Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 Backing and topping hinges on the 'line material' in question. For braided line, I use a few wraps of tape for backing, then fill the spool with braid. IMO, a few extra yards of braid is a small price to eliminate a migrating junction knot. I used to respool when the knot killed my cast, but now I respool when it's time to respool Roger x2. No backing line with straight braid. If I were flouro person, the story might be different. Quote
ZhouNi Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 Probably don't need to use backing in a Zebco. sorry for the confusion i was saying i am using 15lb Zebco mono line as a backing on my reels not a zebco reel Quote
240 LTS Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 How much backing are you guys using? For example...let's say you are wanting to put braid on a baitcaster. Reel specs show 155 yds of 10lb mono. How much mono backing? (assuming you are using mono backing). The question should be, How much "top shot" (braid, fluoro, mono) do you want? I just did some reels and I put 50-60 yrds of braid on. Remember, that's 150- 180 feet. How often will that much line be out? Even if you hook a bigin? Put the "top shot on first, the line you will be actually fishing with, THEN, fill the spool with the backer. Remove the line and reverse it. Backer will be on the bottom, (multiple ways to do it inside or outside). There is a mathmatical way to figure it out but I find the above method easier and fool proof. . Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted March 19, 2014 Super User Posted March 19, 2014 Backing...........never. Spending $300 or more on a set up, I'm not looking to save money on the initial spool up. Nothing wrong with using backing if so inclined. Top shotting is a little different than using mono for backing. Braid is loaded on the reel first for line capacity, then 50-100 yds of mono as a top shot for shock. Spooling up with braid then 8-10' of leader gives a similar effect for freshwater fishing. Quote
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