BassnChris Posted March 13, 2014 Posted March 13, 2014 This is why you SHOULD use a kill switch lanyard to prevent an accident/tragedy. One boater on the way to hospital and one boater missing. Story here: http://www.newson6.com/story/24970430/boat-malfunctions-at-claremore-lake-crews-search-for-missing-person Boat ran free for a while......luckily it circle/spiraled safely. Quote
Koofy Smacker Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 We all HAVE to use them. Just have to make sure it's attached to you 1 Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted March 14, 2014 Super User Posted March 14, 2014 that's just a sad story and i certainly feel sorry for the young man's friends and family….. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 14, 2014 Super User Posted March 14, 2014 Sounds like no pfd's either.... Quote
Pa Angler Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 I make sure mine is conected when I'm under power as well as having my PFD on since I do a lot of fishing by myself I wear my PFD even while I'm fishing. Tight Lines Pa Angler Quote
Chris186 Posted March 14, 2014 Posted March 14, 2014 Its a sad story, but at the same time, he obviously didn't take any safety precautions. No PFD or kill switch lanyard is just an accident waiting to happen. Hell, I even use a lanyard on my 9.9. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted March 15, 2014 Super User Posted March 15, 2014 Kill switch doesn't seem to be the reason for the tragedy and actually in this case probably helped them out as it was noticed that a boat was driving in circles with nobody on board. Maybe i am callous but while i feel sorry for the family involved this is an easily preventable mishap that you could talk about later on if you take the precautions. The same family that is upset should have been the primary consideration for wearing a PFD. I know many people take them off while fishing but while running there really is no excuse in my mind. Hopefully this tragedy helps to educate some people and proven the same thing from happening in the future. Quote
ROCbass Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I understand the importance of safety precautions, but the guys acting like this was 100% preventable seem a bit misguided to me. Sometimes bad stuff happens and these guys could have been using all the proper safety equipment and suffered the same outcome after being thrown from the boat. Sure the risk is reduced in general terms, but we have no way of knowing the impact on this particular incident, because that isn't how it happened. Instead of piling on the victims of this tragedy about PFD's and kill switches and saying the'd still be here if they had used these devices, We should be taking a moment to pay respect to the life lost.Sure, we can use it as a teachable moment and as reminder to start or continue to use good safety practices in our own fishing and boating practices, but some here are getting close to the line of victim blaming, and that really isn't necessary or productive. JMHO. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted March 16, 2014 Super User Posted March 16, 2014 I understand the importance of safety precautions, but the guys acting like this was 100% preventable seem a bit misguided to me. Sometimes bad stuff happens and these guys could have been using all the proper safety equipment and suffered the same outcome after being thrown from the boat. Sure the risk is reduced in general terms, but we have no way of knowing the impact on this particular incident, because that isn't how it happened. Instead of piling on the victims of this tragedy about PFD's and kill switches and saying the'd still be here if they had used these devices, We should be taking a moment to pay respect to the life lost.Sure, we can use it as a teachable moment and as reminder to start or continue to use good safety practices in our own fishing and boating practices, but some here are getting close to the line of victim blaming, and that really isn't necessary or productive. JMHO. How about we preform a test, see how many times someone gets ejected from a boat with a pfd on and killswitch setup vs someone not using a pfd and no killswitch. Wonder who will have a better chance of living and who will sink and have their boat still running. It's obvious though. 1 Quote
ROCbass Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 How about we preform a test, see how many times someone gets ejected from a boat with a pfd on and killswitch setup vs someone not using a pfd and no killswitch. Wonder who will have a better chance of living and who will sink and have their boat still running. It's obvious though. It's also obvious that you have a better chance of surviving a car wreck if you're wearing a seatbelt, yet people wearing seatbelts die in wrecks every day. I also acknowledged in my post that you have a better chance exercising proper safety precautions vs. not. My point is that a better chance does not mean 100% preventable or 100% survival rate. None of us have a crystal ball or any other way of knowing how this incident would have played out if any of the variables involved were any different. To say that this particular case was preventable isn't necessarily true, and saying that it was does nobody any good. Quote
BassnChris Posted March 16, 2014 Author Posted March 16, 2014 I'm just saying wear the kill switch lanyard attached to your person while the boat is running.........every boat operator owes that to everyone else on and around the water. If you fall out without the lanyard attached......you leave a lethal projectile on the water........just wear the lanyard. It is sad one young man lost his life. Whether or not he was wearing a PFD is irrelevant. I wear my PFD at all times.......because if I always do while on the water..........I won't be not wearing it when I need it. If for nothing else.....so recovery is quicker/easier......make it easier on my family. Whether you wear it or not is up to you.........that's it. Sorry for those that lose their life and prayers to their families. EDIT: my avatar pic is from before I purchased my PFD. Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted March 18, 2014 Super User Posted March 18, 2014 None of us have a crystal ball or any other way of knowing how this incident would have played out if any of the variables involved were any different. To say that this particular case was preventable isn't necessarily true, and saying that it was does nobody any good. OK, Oh Wise One, paint us a scenario of how this wasn't preventable. Just one. Be sure to include the following facts: Neither individual was wearing a PFD. The boat was in gear and the motor was running. The kill switch was operational, with lanyard attached. Quote
Brian Needham Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 to lighten the mood....................anyone else think that reporter was hot? Quote
Super User Long Mike Posted March 18, 2014 Super User Posted March 18, 2014 to lighten the mood....................anyone else think that reporter was hot? If you are talking about the one behind the desk, then yes. The gal in glasses? No. Quote
BassnChris Posted March 18, 2014 Author Posted March 18, 2014 to lighten the mood....................anyone else think that reporter was hot? If you are talking about the one behind the desk, then yes. The gal in glasses? No. The one behind the desk married a judge.......be careful or you could end up behind bars. Quote
Brian Needham Posted March 18, 2014 Posted March 18, 2014 The one behind the desk married a judge.......be careful or you could end up behind bars. I aint worried about jail unless the one in glasses is in high school! 2 Quote
BassnChris Posted March 19, 2014 Author Posted March 19, 2014 Turns out.....these guys hit a stump under the water that they didn't see.......you never know when something bad is gonna happen. Wear the kill switch lanyard attached to your person folks. Quote
BeckieC Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 Turns out.....these guys hit a stump under the water that they didn't see.......you never know when something bad is gonna happen. Wear the kill switch lanyard attached to your person folks. The guys in this boat grew up on this small city lake, they knew it well, probably their downfall. Very sad tragedy. Quote
ROCbass Posted March 19, 2014 Posted March 19, 2014 OK, Oh Wise One, paint us a scenario of how this wasn't preventable. Just one. Be sure to include the following facts: Neither individual was wearing a PFD. The boat was in gear and the motor was running. The kill switch was operational, with lanyard attached. I'm not saying it was, or that it wasn't. I'm saying that we cant know for sure either way and therefore shouldn't claim to. I already acknowledged in both my other posts in this thread that the risks of death and other negative outcomes are reduced by following proper precautions. I just happen to believe that while the distinction between saying 'likely preventable' and 'preventable' may be subtle, it is an important one to make. Quote
Todd2 Posted March 20, 2014 Posted March 20, 2014 I agree...WEAR the kill switch lanyard and life jacket. Too many guys are worried about getting to that next spot and throw caution to the wind. Quote
Flippinhook Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 It's also obvious that you have a better chance of surviving a car wreck if you're wearing a seatbelt, yet people wearing seatbelts die in wrecks every day. I also acknowledged in my post that you have a better chance exercising proper safety precautions vs. not. My point is that a better chance does not mean 100% preventable or 100% survival rate. None of us have a crystal ball or any other way of knowing how this incident would have played out if any of the variables involved were any different. To say that this particular case was preventable isn't necessarily true, and saying that it was does nobody any good.This is a sad story and prayers go out to the families but u say that saying it wasn't preventable is saying that why bother wearing a kill switch that the outcome will b the same as this . I for one have a bad habit of not wearing a life jacket or kill switch unless in a tournnament and this story is gonna make me put mine on from now on everytime I get in my boat . This story I'm sure will have an impact on lots of people and in turn may save countless lives in the future . I'm not trying to make an argument or make anyone mad. Just saying don't say it wasn't preventable cause saying that is not true . I work on a drilling rig and we have thousands of safety rules that are put in place to help save lives and I've seen the outcome when those rules are not followed Quote
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