flyingmonkie Posted March 15, 2014 Author Posted March 15, 2014 I'm wondering how much a leader might help prevent this type of breakage? Granted that now you're overall line strenght is only as good as your leader material (and knot). I'm mainly using the braid for the casting and sensitivity. Perhaps a couple feet of line with some stretch is enough to absorb the shock of a stuck spool. I'm debating on putting 12lb flouro on at then end. Anybody else use a seperate setup? Maybe even mono? Little extra strech on cranking might not be a bad idea, just don't want to end up with a leader material that's much larger in diameter to my mainline. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted March 15, 2014 Super User Posted March 15, 2014 I can't say I never broke a lure off on a cast but it's pretty rare. I only use spinning as most do here, 20# braid is my max some people do use 30 and 40#. Leaders are used by everyone, bit on the heavy side 20-40# is pretty normal. Most of us use med to mh rods, 7'6 and 8' real popular lengths, 1-3 oz lures when distance is required. As I say it's rare to see a lure break off here, leads me to only a few thoughts as why. The line may be compromised, lack of a shock leader, b/c digging in and snap casting. Quote
doyle8218 Posted March 15, 2014 Posted March 15, 2014 I can't imagine snapping braid. I have used 20# and 40# and never had a breaking problem, ever. Quote
TorqueConverter Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I've read so many of you have good luck using 30lb braid on your cranking rods. I've been giving 30lb Power Pro a shot the past month or so and I keep snapping the dang line! I had the same issues a couple years back, but I just figured it was because poor quality braid. It happens when I'm casting a heavier lure and the spool locks-up (line digging into itself). I have fouro backing under it (it was used, off another reel)... I'm thinking a switch to mono backer will help with the line digging problem. But regardless, I had the line snap twice today! It's not at the knot... seems to be happening about midway between my rod and where the lure is at the time of the breakage. I'm confident I can get the line to stop digging, but I'm not confident in the braid now! Anybody else have this problem? I've had this exact problem in the past. Turns out the culprit was two things: 1 Overly broken in (old) braid that wouldn't lay on the spool right let alone come off. 2 Bad knots. Your "break offs" are probably "knot failures". A uni knot, fresh braid and some centrifugal brakes turned on allows me to cast my cranks into the stratosphere on #30 832. Quote
VolFan Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I would venture to bet that it is snap casting and the line either cutting itself on the backlash or shattering in the middle from the shock of the sudden stop. Smooth is fast. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted March 16, 2014 Posted March 16, 2014 I would venture to bet that it is snap casting and the line either cutting itself on the backlash or shattering in the middle from the shock of the sudden stop. Smooth is fast. I 100% agree. Quote
hatrix Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 I have only broke braid during a cast 1 timer ever. I got a nasty backlash from trying to tuff guy a 6" ROF 12 Hudd as hard as I could with 30# PP. Hard hook sets and sudden jaring of your line will actually break tiny strands inside your braid making it weaker and weaker every time although you don't see any difference in the line. Maybe it could of been a bad spool? Or maybe you are getting a very tiny backlash somewhere in your cast and every time it straightens suddenly mid cast it is weakening the strands. If that happens in the same place over and over I could imagine it breaking eventually. Quote
shanksmare Posted March 23, 2014 Posted March 23, 2014 You've gotten lots of great advice. I'd try digging my thumb into the spool between casts. If its not rock hard and feels mushy, make an easy cast and retrieve the line between your fingers under tension to get the spool hard again. I used that technique many nights fishing the Cape Cod surf with a spinning setup to prevent problems. This will help prevent the line from digging into itself. 1 Quote
BassBuster420 Posted July 25, 2017 Posted July 25, 2017 On 3/11/2014 at 11:34 PM, War Eagle 44 said: I had a friend 5 or 6 years back that was breaking braid in the very same fashion as you. His was the same problem that the other posters have already pointed out, casting to hard. I was in his boat on more than one occasion where he broke 50# braid in this manner with 1/2 oz buzzbaits. He tried LOTS of different brands of braid; Power Pro, P-Line Spectrex, Spiderwire Original, Spiderwire Stealth, Stren Super Braid and maybe a few more that I don't recall. If I'm remembering correctly he liked Stren and Stealth best but he broke all of them at some point. I'll freely admit that he isn't easy on his gear and he also isn't very diligent about making sure it's spooled tight, checking for abrasions, or re tying when he knows he should. Stren is the only braid I've ever broken on a hook set. Power pro and suffix 832 hasn't ever snapped on me during a hook set (yet). I use 20# pp on my spinning reel and that has never snapped on me even using it on a fairly stout MH rod. Quote
Super User NHBull Posted July 25, 2017 Super User Posted July 25, 2017 @BassBuster420, this thread is 3 yrs old......I suspect the OP's question has been resolved ? Quote
BassBuster420 Posted July 28, 2017 Posted July 28, 2017 On 7/25/2017 at 7:25 PM, NHBull said: @BassBuster420, this thread is 3 yrs old......I suspect the OP's question has been resolved ? I responded more for someone who comes to the the forum lurking for answers/opinions than to answer the OP' question. Quote
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