Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 10, 2014 Author Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Yes, But she had a change of spirit. Rather than me working on the way I come across to people, during her weekly meeting with the higher ups, she suggested it would be in everybody's best interest, that I would be best suited working by myself. I see that as progress. She's also told me she's suggesting I should return to school for training in another field. I'm contemplating Building Automation or CAD. I've got an appointment at the community college tomorrow I can see you not getting along very well in the white collar world. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 I can see you not getting along very well in the white collar world. Having worked in both the white and blue collar worlds i can tell you, they aren't as far apart as you think or would like to believe Same **** happens just the language isn't quite as colorful at first.... Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 I still think you would do good as a welding inspector. Couple of classes. You get to work with us industrial tradesmen and get paid dang good. Raider, that's all fine and dandy, but I don't have the inspector mentality. I like figuring things out. I had an interview with a building controls company a couple weeks ago trying to get my foot in the door as a service coordinator(glorified dispatcher). I screwed up that interview because I spent my time talking about becoming a field engineer. They knew I didn't want the dispatch job. There's a ton of money to be made in building automation. I've got the mechanical and electrical experience. I just need to get the computer and programing under my belt Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Having worked in both the white and blue collar worlds i can tell you, they aren't as far apart as you think or would like to believe Same **** happens just the language isn't quite as colorful at first.... The language is not an issue. That I can control. I tend to be honest, blunt and forward, and it seems to intimidate some people and pee others off. I say what's on my mind and tend to forget others are in the room. I don't intend to be rude or mean. Just seems I have a different view. My mother has used the word "unfiltered" to describe my personality. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 I hear ya. Depending on the type of company that is seen as an asset. Where I work not so much until you get a little higher up the totem pole. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 10, 2014 Author Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Having worked in both the white and blue collar worlds i can tell you, they aren't as far apart as you think or would like to believe Same **** happens just the language isn't quite as colorful at first.... Wanna bet? I've never seen office workers almost come to blows over plugging a set of lights in. Or for that matter moving a stack of pipe out of the way. You yell at someone in an office environment, and tell them to go **** themselves in front of your co workers. Your most likely gonna get reprimanded, let go, or sent to HR for sensitivity training. Not so in my field. We are allowed to be extremely brutally honest and express or opinions. As long as you don't cuss out management. Your pretty much good to go. (Forman don't count as management either.) There is a entirely different set of conduct on a powerhouse job then anywhere else. Oh the joking and other stuff is quite similar. I will give you that. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 10, 2014 Author Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Raider, that's all fine and dandy, but I don't have the inspector mentality. I like figuring things out. I had an interview with a building controls company a couple weeks ago trying to get my foot in the door as a service coordinator(glorified dispatcher). I screwed up that interview because I spent my time talking about becoming a field engineer. They knew I didn't want the dispatch job. There's a ton of money to be made in building automation. I've got the mechanical and electrical experience. I just need to get the computer and programing under my beltSounds like you got it all planned out then. Best of luck to you with that. It actually sounds fun. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Sounds like you got it all planned out then. Best of luck to you with that. It actually sounds fun. It's not all planned out. I'm working on it. Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 10, 2014 Author Super User Posted March 10, 2014 It's not all planned out. I'm working on it. Simplify it. Or to put it in pipe fitter phrasing. Oook Grunnnnt eeeek eek. Grunt whine grunt. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 All's philosophers are good for is sting around and pondering why they don't have a job....or at least that is what i told my brother when he said he was majoring in philosophy in college. No original thoughts just regurgitating other's thoughts who were probably regurgitating someone else's.....derail over lol Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Yes, But she had a change of spirit. Rather than me working on the way I come across to people, during her weekly meeting with the higher ups, she suggested it would be in everybody's best interest, that I would be best suited working by myself. I see that as progress. She's also told me she's suggesting I should return to school for training in another field. I'm contemplating Building Automation or CAD. I've got an appointment at the community college tomorrow Big money in Building Automation and the field is starving for guys who have experience in the field...around here anyway. The CAD thing, I've used AutoCad and have designed off of it, but as far as a career move, not for me. They work long hours for not such great pay and are constantly on deadlines to make the principle of the company look good. If you do go ahead and learn it, you can make some really good money freelancing doing As-Built drawings. I find that a lot of small to mid-size mechanical companies sub that out. They simply can't keep a guy going full time with it. How does Air Testing and Balancing sound or Facilities Management? I'm just throwing out ideas, but I run into a lot of folks in the Facilities field with a very strong Mechanical backround. Sorry I couldn't help but diving into this conversation. Quote
Super User slonezp Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Big money in Building Automation and the field is starving for guys who have experience in the field...around here anyway. The CAD thing, I've used AutoCad and have designed off of it, but as far as a career move, not for me. They work long hours for not such great pay and are constantly on deadlines to make the principle of the company look good. If you do go ahead and learn it, you can make some really good money freelancing doing As-Built drawings. I find that a lot of small to mid-size mechanical companies sub that out. They simply can't keep a guy going full time with it. How does Air Testing and Balancing sound or Facilities Management? I'm just throwing out ideas, but I run into a lot of folks in the Facilities field with a very strong Mechanical backround. Sorry I couldn't help but diving into this conversation. Building automation/controls engineers around here are making $100k-$175k a year and are in huge demand. Most of the guys who are very successful in controls are very "techy" which I am not. That doesn't mean there isn't a place for me. The CAD was a suggestion the community college had made during our first meeting. I've been looking at facilities jobs and my lifting restrictions prevent me from applying for many of these positions. I've been looking into the school districts and park districts as well. My lack of an education/degree might be playing a role as well. Aside from trade school, my education ended at the 12th grade. Quote
Super User Jigfishn10 Posted March 10, 2014 Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Building automation/controls engineers around here are making $100k-$175k a year and are in huge demand. Most of the guys who are very successful in controls are very "techy" which I am not. That doesn't mean there isn't a place for me. The CAD was a suggestion the community college had made during our first meeting. I've been looking at facilities jobs and my lifting restrictions prevent me from applying for many of these positions. I've been looking into the school districts and park districts as well. My lack of an education/degree might be playing a role as well. Aside from trade school, my education ended at the 12th grade. You'll be fine, just takes a little time. Good luck, bud! Quote
Super User Raider Nation Fisher Posted March 10, 2014 Author Super User Posted March 10, 2014 Building automation/controls engineers around here are making $100k-$175k a year and are in huge demand. Most of the guys who are very successful in controls are very "techy" which I am not. That doesn't mean there isn't a place for me. The CAD was a suggestion the community college had made during our first meeting. I've been looking at facilities jobs and my lifting restrictions prevent me from applying for many of these positions. I've been looking into the school districts and park districts as well. My lack of an education/degree might be playing a role as well. Aside from trade school, my education ended at the 12th grade. Most the engineers I know have the common sense of a 6th grader. So you should thusly be fine with your educational background. Quote
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