Wbeadlescomb Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 Every shimano baitcaster I've ever bought has an extra set of brakes in the box. Is this because if dropped or easily lost? I know the curados I bought the other day had the red brakes installed but there's a spare pack of white ones? Have I been missing out on something all these years and these create less resistance? I usually have only 1 of the brakes pulled up and 0 up on a couple so even if it did I guess it wouldn't make a difference. Quote
rbreedi1 Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 There just spare brakes incase you somehow lose the others or something is wrong with it. Never once had to use them. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 7, 2014 Super User Posted March 7, 2014 Actually there are different weights. Clear or white are the lightest; pink are considered light and green is standard. Quote
Wbeadlescomb Posted March 7, 2014 Author Posted March 7, 2014 I think mine are reddish pink. So if I swap them for the white ones why are the benefits? Quote
frogflogger Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 lighter brakes - faster spool - the old ambassadors had several sizes Quote
Super User Raul Posted March 7, 2014 Super User Posted March 7, 2014 The extra weights are not spares. They are heavier tan the ones installed on the reel, heavier = more braking = slower spool, it comes handy when fishing with heavy baits ( like large cranks, spinners and swimbaits . Quote
NathanW Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 The extra weights are not spares. They are heavier tan the ones installed on the reel, heavier = more braking = slower spool, it comes handy when fishing with heavy baits ( like large cranks, spinners and swimbaits . Wow, I am glad he asked that questions because I would have never known this. Always thought they were spares and never read into it further. Quote
Super User Dwight Hottle Posted March 7, 2014 Super User Posted March 7, 2014 The new metanium & antares are shipped with spares rather than different weights. Somebody with the new curado I & chronarch C14+ need to answer for those. Previous generations did have different weight brake sets ( different colors). Quote
BryanBrown Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 The new metanium & antares are shipped with spares rather than different weights. Somebody with the new curado I & chronarch C14+ need to answer for those. Previous generations did have different weight brake sets ( different colors). My new Curado I came with just spares (red clips). Quote
DirtyDeuceGoose Posted March 7, 2014 Posted March 7, 2014 My new Curado I came with just spares (red clips). Mine too. Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted March 7, 2014 Super User Posted March 7, 2014 Mine too. Mine too. Hootie Quote
bflp3 Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 My new Curado I came with just spares (red clips). Chronarch Ci4+ was just spares too. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted March 8, 2014 Super User Posted March 8, 2014 Actually there are different weights. Clear or white are the lightest; pink are considered light and green is standard. Hmmmm. Bought a Curado 51E on closeout 2 years ago. Never paid attention to what was in the box besides the oil. I see a wrench and extra plastic pieces in pink and green. Reel has all pink ones installed. I too am glad this question got asked although I did know that there were other colors available for different braking. Didn't realize I had extra, tho. Quote
paul25 Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 Wow, I am glad he asked that questions because I would have never known this. Always thought they were spares and never read into it further. x2 i've been fishing shimano reels for a while and never knew that. Quote
Zimobass Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the spare breaks for the newer models, such as Ci4+ and Curado I, are just to replace the installed ones in the event of wear. As the new infinite SVS breaking system works so well, there is no need for lighter weights, as was the case with the previous generations of their reels. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 I am pretty sure I read somewhere that the spare breaks for the newer models, such as Ci4+ and Curado I, are just to replace the installed ones in the event of wear. As the new infinite SVS breaking system works so well, there is no need for lighter weights, as was the case with the previous generations of their reels. No, not even close. The Metanium for example comes with the red blocks installed from Shimano, in the box there is a set of white replacement blocks. The white blocks are lighter, it's actually very easy to tell there's a size difference between them just by holding them side by side in your hand. Why would Shimano go to the trouble of making different colors if they're all the same?? Unbelievable. Quote
bootytrain Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 The new metanium & antares are shipped with spares rather than different weights. Somebody with the new curado I & chronarch C14+ need to answer for those. Previous generations did have different weight brake sets ( different colors). Actually the new Metanium has extra white brake blocks that are thinner (you can see the difference in this picture), lighter, and provide less friction and braking force. If you swap out all the red ones for the white ones then you will see a noticeable gain in casting distance, but the spool also becomes less friendly. So if you have a new Metanium and want more distance try switching brake blocks. A few people actually mix the reds and whites together. Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 Actually the new Metanium has extra white brake blocks that are thinner (you can see the difference in this picture), lighter, and provide less friction and braking force. If you swap out all the red ones for the white ones then you will see a noticeable gain in casting distance, but the spool also becomes less friendly. So if you have a new Metanium and want more distance try switching brake blocks. A few people actually mix the reds and whites together. Thank you!! Quote
Zimobass Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 No, not even close. The Metanium for example comes with the red blocks installed from Shimano, in the box there is a set of white replacement blocks. The white blocks are lighter, it's actually very easy to tell there's a size difference between them just by holding them side by side in your hand. Why would Shimano go to the trouble of making different colors if they're all the same?? Unbelievable. You should read the post that I made and not make inaccurate conclusions. I never mentioned the Metanium, merely the Chronarch Ci4 and Curado I. I also do not go on the internet to just say things,(as per your post before being edited) and assure you that my intent is to assist others, and learn myself from forums such as this one. You may wish to look at this http://forums.tackletour.com/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=56074 Quote
War Eagle 44 Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 I did indeed read your post that's why I responded. In particular the part where you state the SVS system works so well there isn't a need for lighter blocks is purely speculation on your part. Just because you may not need them doesn't mean others won't. Then you state that this was the case with previous generations. Well then if this is an accurate statement you could have saved Shimano all that time and money wasted on testing, development, and distribution of their multiple weight brake blocks. I did almost immediately edit my first post but it sure won't happen again. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 8, 2014 Super User Posted March 8, 2014 Man, cabin fever is epidemic! We don't want to be like some other forums where tempers flare unchecked. This is an informative thread regarding reel brakes. Any misinformation may be corrected, but no one is going to die. Take a deep breath and a short break before posting again. I believe my earlier post is on spot. Please address this if I am incorrect: "Actually there are different weights. Clear or white are the lightest; pink are considered light and green is standard." Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted March 8, 2014 Super User Posted March 8, 2014 If you look in the FAQs on Shimano's web site this is what they say about the brake (they spell break!) collars: Why are there more than one color of break weights for my Baitcasting VBS system? Shimano makes two different break weights; Heavy (Black, Grey, or Green in color) and Light (Red, Blue, and Clear in color). Most of the new reels are shipped with the light break weights on the reel, and the heavy break weights in packaging in the box. If the light break weights don’t provide adequate spool stopping power, change them simply by pulling them off of the spool and replace them with the heavier weights. Of course - this is pre-SVS. FWIW Quote
Zimobass Posted March 8, 2014 Posted March 8, 2014 Man, cabin fever is epidemic! We don't want to be like some other forums where tempers flare unchecked. This is an informative thread regarding reel brakes. Any misinformation may be corrected, but no one is going to die. Take a deep breath and a short break before posting again. I believe my earlier post is on spot. Please address this if I am incorrect: "Actually there are different weights. Clear or white are the lightest; pink are considered light and green is standard." Yes Sir. That is a correct statement. I was never implying anything about the older generation Shimano reels, and was taken out of context by another poster. What I objected to, as was posted to my email address by this forums administrators, was this statement: " No, not even close. The Metanium for example comes with the red blocks installed from Shimano, in the box there is a set of white replacement blocks. The white blocks are lighter, it's actually very easy to tell there's a size difference between them just by holding them side by side in your hand. It's amazing to me how people will get on the internet a just say things without really knowing what they're talking about. Why would Shimano go to the trouble of making different colors if they're all the same?? Unbelievable." I am a man of certain principles, and will be the first to acknowledge that I am wrong, if I need to. But I also have the right to post to this forum, just as other members have. Not one to hold grudges, and certainly not suffering from cabin fever, as I live in the southern hemisphere and bassing is just great Quote
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