The Beer Is Brewing, The Trash Is Flying, And Ian Kinsler Apparently Hates Texas

[deaknh03]

There was talk about Drew to the Yanks. 3rd base when Jeter is in the line-up and SS when he's not. Not sure what happened to that one tho.

from what I understand the yanks gave up picks for mcann and ellsbury so theyre reluctant to give any more up.

[cbass12]

Thing I can't believe is the contract Freddie freeman got for one or two good yrs not MVP numbers though. His first yr or two he battled injuries and adjusting. Just a lot of doe for not a lot of track record

Much like the contract Detroit gave to Anibal Sanchez before last season. It was all based on a good second half the season before, and they gave him an absurd amount of money. Not saying he hasn't earned his money, he was really good last year, but its amazing how quickly a player's stock can go up.

 

The start of the season can not get here fast enough!! This is the most excitement we've had in KC for a long time. The last time it was like this was in 2004, but that was a little different because the 2003 team was not built to last like this current team is.

[MCS]

Tell me about it....just start the regular season.

Draft tomorrow 9 am church tomorrow 10:45 hope to atleast get my first 3 rounds in then it is up to my rankings. I edited pretty hardcore to ensure I'd get players I either like or have a hunch their going to have banner yrs. see if it pays off.

[Gone_Phishin]

 carl crawford, I love carlos Gonzalez as a player but man two injury plagued seasons in a row have me shying away. Tex and Sabathia because they are yanks and stink on a player lever too. A little timid if Zimmerman, strausburg or harper came available injuries and just  a new manager scare me.

 

I have always wanted to get Josh Hamilton in a draft, I keep thinking this year would be his big comeback year from injuries......Then he hurt his calf.

 

Agreed on the Nats front.  One guy I used to shy away from the past two years, but now I may go for, is the Panda...contract year and he is actually in shape for once.

 

 

Tell me about it....just start the regular season.

Draft tomorrow 9 am church tomorrow 10:45 hope to atleast get my first 3 rounds in then it is up to my rankings. I edited pretty hardcore to ensure I'd get players I either like or have a hunch their going to have banner yrs. see if it pays off.

 

 

Let us know how it turns out.  We have ours next Sunday night.  The only thing on my mind this past week has been Megabass, Avail, and baseball. 

[Jar11591]

Thing I can't believe is the contract Freddie freeman got for one or two good yrs not MVP numbers though. His first yr or two he battled injuries and adjusting. Just a lot of doe for not a lot of track record

Not MVP numbers? He finished 4th in the MVP balloting, but got robbed in my opinion. He batted

.319/23/109 and his average with runners in scoring position was approaching .500. He was the only consistent hitter on an offense full of

free-swingers. The Braves offense was TERRIBLE except for Freddy. The pitching staff lacked a real "ace", and two of our big offensive names hit sub .200. And we still win 96 games! The braves would not have been a playoff team without Freddy. The fact that he finished behind Goldschmidt and Molina is a farce. Goldschmidt couldn't get the Dbacks to the playoffs and Molina, like always had a stacked lineup and pitching staff around him. It should have come down to McCutchen and Freeman IMO. Freeman ABSOLUTELY had an MVP type season last year. Remember MVP is the most valuable, not the best player.

[cbass12]

Not MVP numbers? He finished 4th in the MVP balloting, but got robbed in my opinion. He batted

.319/23/109 and his average with runners in scoring position was approaching .500. He was the only consistent hitter on an offense full of

free-swingers. The Braves offense was TERRIBLE except for Freddy. The pitching staff lacked a real "ace", and two of our big offensive names hit sub .200. And we still win 96 games! The braves would not have been a playoff team without Freddy. The fact that he finished behind Goldschmidt and Molina is a farce. Goldschmidt couldn't get the Dbacks to the playoffs and Molina, like always had a stacked lineup and pitching staff around him. It should have come down to McCutchen and Freeman IMO. Freeman ABSOLUTELY had an MVP type season last year. Remember MVP is the most valuable, not the best player.

I can't necessarily argue with you about Freeman, he had an MVP caliber year. But for you to downplay the kind of season Goldschmidt had just because his team didn't make the playoffs is a little unfair. Personally I think Goldschmidt should have been the MVP.

[Jar11591]

I can't necessarily argue with you about Freeman, he had an MVP caliber year. But for you to downplay the kind of season Goldschmidt had just because his team didn't make the playoffs is a little unfair. Personally I think Goldschmidt should have been the MVP.

 

 

 

If you're talking best offensive season then Goldschmidt had it hands down. But the MVP award isn't like the Cy Young award which is given to the best pitcher. The MVP award is supposed to be for the most important player to his team, not best offensive player. So I think whether or not a team makes the playoffs should be factored into this decision. I'm not downplaying the offensive season Goldschmidt had, I'm just saying I don't think he was as valuable or important to his team than some players who help their teams get into the post-season such as McCutchen and Freeman. Both of those guys did it with little to no help. Another factor is leadership. I don't watch too many Dbacks games so i can't really say anything about Goldschmidt's leadership role, but this is an area where Freeman, McCutchen and especially Molina really shine. Again I'm wasn't trying to downplay Goldschmidt's offensive numbers, because he had a great year. I just think the MVP award is too often mistaken for "best offensive season" award.

[MCS]

Dude freeman isn't close to an MVP my grandmother can hit 23 homers in atl during the summer

Goldschmit was IT!

Freeman may be an MVP one day but don't pay him like he is now. The braves offense still sucks

[MCS]

Agreed on the Nats front. One guy I used to shy away from the past two years, but now I may go for, is the Panda...contract year and he is actually in shape for once.

Let us know how it turns out. We have ours next Sunday night. The only thing on my mind this past week has been Megabass, Avail, and baseball.

Think I did ok will post today or tomorrow heading out now.

[cbass12]

If you're talking best offensive season then Goldschmidt had it hands down. But the MVP award isn't like the Cy Young award which is given to the best pitcher. The MVP award is supposed to be for the most important player to his team, not best offensive player. So I think whether or not a team makes the playoffs should be factored into this decision. I'm not downplaying the offensive season Goldschmidt had, I'm just saying I don't think he was as valuable or important to his team than some players who help their teams get into the post-season such as McCutchen and Freeman. Both of those guys did it with little to no help. Another factor is leadership. I don't watch too many Dbacks games so i can't really say anything about Goldschmidt's leadership role, but this is an area where Freeman, McCutchen and especially Molina really shine. Again I'm wasn't trying to downplay Goldschmidt's offensive numbers, because he had a great year. I just think the MVP award is too often mistaken for "best offensive season" award.

And this is the same argument you see every year on MLB network for weeks on end until the voting is done. I personally agree with the idea of giving the award to the player that has the best year regardless of who they play for. Then there are those that have the same opinion on the subject as you. I'm not saying one is necessarily right, just saying how I feel about it.

[Jar11591]

Dude freeman isn't close to an MVP my grandmother can hit 23 homers in atl during the summer

Goldschmit was IT!

Freeman may be an MVP one day but don't pay him like he is now. The braves offense still sucks

 

 

MVP stands for Most Valuable Player. The award is not called the BOP award. There is the Hank Aaron award which is given to the best hitter, but its fan voted. There should be a separate award for that, but there isn't. Homeruns have nothing to do with the MVP award, its about what you do for your team to help them win, which is in fact the point of the game. So im guessing you have no idea that Justin Verlander won the MVP award a few years back and guess how many homeruns he had? ZERO. He was the most valuable member to his team not based on his offensive numbers, but based on what the award stands for. And you are right, the Braves offense does suck, and Freeman got them into the playoffs with no help. I do believe there should be an award for BOP as well but there isn't. The MVP award is just that, given to the MVP and that certainly is not Goldschmidt. He wasnt valuable enough to help a mediocre pitching staff and a bleeding offense get to the playoffs like McCutchen and Freeman did.

[Jar11591]

And this is the same argument you see every year on MLB network for weeks on end until the voting is done. I personally agree with the idea of giving the award to the player that has the best year regardless of who they play for. Then there are those that have the same opinion on the subject as you. I'm not saying one is necessarily right, just saying how I feel about it.

 

 

I think there should be a separate award for best offensive player. Have the MVP, Cy Young, and BOP award so there is no confusion because i like the idea of having an award like MVP but i think there obviously should be an award for the best hitter. I also think the MVP shouldn't be so offensive oriented, like it should be given to pitchers more often. But you're right, everybody views the award different.

 

Nothing i love more than a good baseball debate!

[MCS]

Agreed on the Nats front. One guy I used to shy away from the past two years, but now I may go for, is the Panda...contract year and he is actually in shape for once.

Let us know how it turns out. We have ours next Sunday night. The only thing on my mind this past week has been Megabass, Avail, and baseball.

So I woke up late missed the first 3 picks but am happy I got cargo, king felix, and Jose Fernandez,

1b Adrian Gonzalez, Howard, nava,

2b altuve

3b muchado, arendando

ss peralta, acildes escobar

Of cargo, cespedes, Nelson Cruz, aoki, yelich, urrita.

After a while(14 teams) I went to auto pick so I am trying to drop scutturo for whe chen

Sp are Felix hern., Jose fern., salazar, archer, arroyo, leake, ogando, and stultz.

Rp are romo, tommy hunter, Ryan cook, smyly, and jp Howell but am trying to drop for vargas

I was one pick away from Moore

it seemed like starters and of were going at a premium. 5-10 picks above ranking.

[Gone_Phishin]

So I woke up late missed the first 3 picks but am happy I got cargo, king felix, and Jose Fernandez,

1b Adrian Gonzalez, Howard, nava,

2b altuve

3b muchado, arendando

ss peralta, acildes escobar

Of cargo, cespedes, Nelson Cruz, aoki, yelich, urrita.

After a while(14 teams) I went to auto pick so I am trying to drop scutturo for whe chen

Sp are Felix hern., Jose fern., salazar, archer, arroyo, leake, ogando, and stultz.

Rp are romo, tommy hunter, Ryan cook, smyly, and jp Howell but am trying to drop for vargas

I was one pick away from Moore

it seemed like starters and of were going at a premium. 5-10 picks above ranking.

 

Lol!  I overslept for a baseball draft four or five years ago...also missed the first three rounds.

 

I have my eye on Vargas as well.  Pitchers went that way last year in our draft, and they'll at least go the same way again this year...not a bad thing if that allows me to grab a nice bat.

 

Good work on the team.  Time for me to go do another mock.

[MCS]

Thanks....Yeah I figure Vargas is solid for 3-4 before last season he is a good bounce back candidate. You will find deals on corners and shortstop, they seemed to last the longest. I probably coulda waited on both my 3b a pick or two later. Panda and another decent 3b, Donaldson, went behind both them I just didnt have enough faith in either and rather go with youth if machado fails to be 100%

[Gone_Phishin]

I had my draft today; it went well I suppose.  It's a 12 man H2H league.  I picked in the one spot, and was able to get my top three (Trout, Yu, Kipnis)...pretty stoked they fell to me.

 

 

Wilson Ramos Was - C

 

Eric Hosmer KC - 1B

 

Jason Kipnis Cle - 2B

 

Pablo Sandoval SF - 3B

 

Elvis Andrus Tex - SS

 

Mike Trout LAA - OF

 

Mark Trumbo Ari - 1B,OF

 

Leonys Martín Tex - OF

 

Brandon Moss Oak - 1B,OF

 

Jedd Gyorko SD - 2B,3B

 

Jed Lowrie Oak - 2B,SS

 

Yan Gomes Cle - C

 

Mike Moustakas KC - 3B

 

Yu Darvish Tex - SP

 

Matt Moore TB - SP

 

Greg Holland KC - RP

 

Joakim Soria Tex - RP

 

Chris Tillman Bal - SP

 

Luke Gregerson Oak - RP

 

Mark Melancon Pit - RP

 

Joaquín Benoit SD - RP

 

Francisco Rodríguez Mil - RP

 

Tanner Scheppers Tex - RP

 

Sergio Santos Tor - RP

 

Andrew Cashner SD - SP,RP

 

Justin Masterson Cle - SP

 

Rick Porcello Det - SP

 

 

[MCS]

Looks good....I dig Moore and Tillman. You got a stout offense for sure. Gyorko was another ripped out of my finger tips.

[Gone_Phishin]

Looks good....I dig Moore and Tillman. You got a stout offense for sure. Gyorko was another ripped out of my finger tips.

 

I'm really banking a lot on Moore and Masterson.  If they put up big numbers I should be OK as far as pitching goes.

 

I did my best with the available players to draft a balanced offense...there is a nice mix of power and speed.

 

Wilin Rosario was ripped from me.  Choo and Gio took a little tumble, but were snagged right before me as well.  I got really screwed in the late rounds with closers and set up/hold guys.

[MCS]

Yeah in the past I had terrible closers last yr I had one good one so I made an effort to get two. I hope they guy for the O's does well.

Masters on looked sick the last start I think he K'd 8 lol I know it is spring but when most guys are going 4 innings and punching out two or three you notice that.

I am hoping to make it over to Tampa to see a game this yr want to see the rays marlins and catch either price or Fernandez

[MCS]

Got into a winners league from last yrs roto championship. Draft is Thursday at 4 pm.....should be interesting.

[MCS]

d**n braves lose another one first Medlin now beachy, those guys got talent but their second opp each they ain't never gonna be the same. Too bad all the cash is tied up in freeman now cuz they need to buy a pitcher or two next offseason.

My prediction is marlins win the east.

[cbass12]

At least the Braves were able to pick up Santana, thanks for the draft pick by the way

[Jar11591]

At least the Braves were able to pick up Santana, thanks for the draft pick by the way

 

 

 

Funny thing is, Santana turned down the qualifying offer from the Royals which was $14.1 million. He signed a 1 year deal with the Braves worth $14 million I believe. He definitely misread the market. But as questionable as he is, the Braves needed him. Even if he ends up being the shaky Erv, at least he is pitching. At this point, the Braves no longer need an "ace". They need guys who pitch innings. It is such a shame about Medlen and Beachy, because they are both so good, and the Braves starting 5 was going to be lethal this year. But you take that draft pick, because it was worth it. We can take Salvador Perez or Eric Hosmer off your hands if you would like.

[MCS]

Had my winners league draft, more typical of what I usually end up with.

At C got lucroy and Norris with this being roto and lucroy 1b elligable Norris maybe a sleeper I can afford

1b trumbo and belt

2b cano and Phillips

3b seager, headley

SS segura

Of jones, Myers, Jackson, Cruz

Sp price, Zimmerman, shields, wheeler, peavy, griffin, and lohse

Rp Ziegler, willhelmsmen, putz

Weak in saves and possibly SBs but hope headley does a 20/20 or 30/30 and Jackson takes more swipes. Norris might help.

Got a few of the brew crew it just worked out, had lucroy two seasons ago and lohse was nasty last yr.

[cbass12]

 We can take Salvador Perez or Eric Hosmer off your hands if you would like.

Keep dreaming. Anyone see the line drive Sal hit off of Chapman the other day? Scary stuff!!!!!