smokethis Posted March 3, 2014 Author Posted March 3, 2014 I fished the blood knot all day today and it worked great. Only one thing it's a little annoying when the knot goes through my guides. This is the first time I've used a leader so I'm sure I will get used to it. Also had another question about leaders. How long do you guys usually make it and how often do you change out the leader? Quote
Super User jbsoonerfan Posted March 3, 2014 Super User Posted March 3, 2014 I don't like it going through my guides. I usually only use a 12-16" leader and don't reel it past the tip. I also sometimes use a bead on my braid and the weight above it, so the knot stops the bead and it is sort of like a Carolina rig. Quote
Smokinal Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 I usually go 2 full arm lengths. I don't analyze that too much. I trim back as needed from nicks and just replace it when it gets about 4 ft long. Quote
Super User Oregon Native Posted March 3, 2014 Super User Posted March 3, 2014 What the man said...bout six ft or two arm lengths. Quote
cbass12 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Modified Albright, super easy to tie and very strong. I've tried some of the others but this one is just the easiest for me to tie. Quote
dam0007 Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Im looking forward to trying this new one I found, throughout this season. I do not know the name but the braid basicly holds the fluoro like a chinese finger trap. Alot of salt guys I guess use it. Quote
Cgrinder Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 Uni to Uni if the lines are similar in diameter, Alberto if not. Quote
Tim Kelly Posted March 3, 2014 Posted March 3, 2014 This is without question the strongest smallest and best knot for making the connection, and this is the easiest way to tie it. It does take a bit of practise to tie, and takes a couple of minutes to tie, but the line will never break at the knot. If you make a leader up that's a couple of rod lengths long you can re-tie umpteen times and even have a few break offs but not need to tie a new leader on. Try it and I promise you will be convinced. Quote
Smokinal Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Im looking forward to trying this new one I found, throughout this season. I do not know the name but the braid basicly holds the fluoro like a chinese finger trap. Alot of salt guys I guess use it. This is without question the strongest smallest and best knot for making the connection, and this is the easiest way to tie it. It does take a bit of practise to tie, and takes a couple of minutes to tie, but the line will never break at the knot. If you make a leader up that's a couple of rod lengths long you can re-tie umpteen times and even have a few break offs but not need to tie a new leader on. Try it and I promise you will be convinced. Quote
Tlaz Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 OK Guys I have a few questions about this as well. I plan on trying it on a couple rods this year. I have a topwater / jerkbait rod that I want to put braid on. Would you use Fluoro leader or Mono? Thinking mono because of the non sink factor but also want the strength. What lb Braid and leaders would you recommend On another rod I use for cranks, lipless etc, I am thinking Fluoro for that however I was also thinking of filling slightly more than half with Braid and maybe the last 75-100 yards with Fuoro. Basically just using braid as a backing and for casting distance. Any advice on these two setups would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Tom Quote
Drewski73 Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 For the topwater/jerkbait and the crankin rod, stick with mono or flouro. Not the applications to use braid IMO. I love braid, but it isnt for everything, and those 2 situations are the 2 I dont use braid in. I use the alberto knot, and pitch ALOT with it. Ive tied it once where it hung up, and it was the flouro tag end sticking up just a bit too much. Trimmed it, and it worked fine. I use a lot of 20 lb flouro in timber, and a uni to uni does NOT go through standard guides with 20 lb flouro very well, so I learned the Alberto. Quote
frogflogger Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 For myself braid for backing isn't a good idea - I use mono for backing if I don't expect a fish to get into it with a long run. Quote
Tlaz Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 For the topwater/jerkbait and the crankin rod, stick with mono or flouro. Not the applications to use braid IMO. I love braid, but it isnt for everything, and those 2 situations are the 2 I dont use braid in. I use the alberto knot, and pitch ALOT with it. Ive tied it once where it hung up, and it was the flouro tag end sticking up just a bit too much. Trimmed it, and it worked fine. I use a lot of 20 lb flouro in timber, and a uni to uni does NOT go through standard guides with 20 lb flouro very well, so I learned the Alberto. For top water and jerks, isnt it best to use a floating line like Mono or Braid? Quote
gripnrip Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 For top water and jerks, isnt it best to use a floating line like Mono or Braid? Topwater yes. Both of those lines would work. I don't like braid or mono for a jerkbait. I like braid to flouro on a jerkbait only when I'm fishing it all day. Key word "only" Braid has no stretch. It wears me out otherwise. Quote
gripnrip Posted March 4, 2014 Posted March 4, 2014 Thanks No problem. I would suggest that you use everyone's advice until you find what works for "you" I am a machinist by trade and there is a 100 ways you can machine a part. When it comes to fishing, it is the same. We're all made differently. Otherwise the world would be a boring place IMO. Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted March 4, 2014 Super User Posted March 4, 2014 I use the uni-to-uni knot Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted March 5, 2014 Super User Posted March 5, 2014 Broken record time...............I use the Alberto. Easy to tie, strong, and don't hang in the guides. I use it for ALL my leaders. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 5, 2014 Super User Posted March 5, 2014 Broken record time...............I use the Alberto. Easy to tie, strong, and don't hang in the guides. I use it for ALL my leaders. Simple, huh? Not complicated, no issues...NEVER fails. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted March 5, 2014 Super User Posted March 5, 2014 Simple, huh? Not complicated, no issues...NEVER fails. ????? .......You been drinking tonight ? Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted March 5, 2014 Super User Posted March 5, 2014 I scratched my head over the FG knot, too much for senior citizen. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted March 5, 2014 Super User Posted March 5, 2014 ????? .......You been drinking tonight ? Nope, just liked your reply! Quote
dam0007 Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Couldn't get knot to hold, fc slides right through....... Um Quote
Fish Murderer 71 Posted March 17, 2014 Posted March 17, 2014 Improved albright here. It's what I learned first and can tie it without having to think about it to much. Have yet to have it break... even when I got an umbrella rig stuck up in a tree. Quote
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