bassboy107 Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 I am looking for a reel that i can use for treble hook baits such as crainkbait and jerkbaits. The rod i have in mind is a 7' MH moderate fast Powell Diesel. I am wondering what gear ratio the reel should be for various treble hook baits. Right now my budget is about 120$ but lower would be best. Any reccomendations welcome. Thanks! -Jack Quote
John G Posted February 25, 2014 Posted February 25, 2014 Assuming you are just talking about Squarebills, my recommendation is a Shimano Citica 200E. The gear ratio is 6.2:1. I have an almost new one with a new Hawgtech Handle with Shimano Power Grip II knobs for $125.00 tyd if you are interested. A Shimano Curado 50E would be nicer but you will have trouble finding one at your price point. Quote
Super User .RM. Posted February 25, 2014 Super User Posted February 25, 2014 I am looking for a reel that i can use for treble hook baits such as crainkbait and jerkbaits. The rod i have in mind is a 7' MH moderate fast Powell Diesel. I am wondering what gear ratio the reel should be for various treble hook baits. Right now my budget is about 120$ but lower would be best. Any reccomendations welcome. Thanks! -Jack IMPO..... With that rod I would be using a 5.1:1 gr for medium diving cranks down to a 3.8:1 gr for deep divers... Tight Lines! Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 25, 2014 Super User Posted February 25, 2014 Any slower reel would work fine. Quote
bassboy107 Posted February 25, 2014 Author Posted February 25, 2014 Any slower reel would work fine. so a 5:4:1 or a 6:4:1 would work fine? Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted February 25, 2014 Super User Posted February 25, 2014 i may be way off, but the rod is far more important based on hook type than the reel is. reel ration will be your choice based on preference for the most part. I think a standard moving bait ratio is 6:x:1.... i really like the 7:x:1 because i can make myself slow it down, but it's hard to speed it up..... for $130 you have plenty of fine options..... 1 Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 25, 2014 Super User Posted February 25, 2014 He's already go the rod - a MH/mod-fast, which is perfectly suited for larger cranks and deep divers. Anything south of 25" per turn should work. I use Daiwa Sols (5.8:1, ~23 IPT) for cranking. Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted February 26, 2014 Super User Posted February 26, 2014 He's already go the rod - a MH/mod-fast, which is perfectly suited for larger cranks and deep divers. Anything south of 25" per turn should work. I use Daiwa Sols (5.8:1, ~23 IPT) for cranking. being that he said that rod was the one in mind, i was just throwing it out that i felt that was the more important component. looks like i'm on an island by myself with the thought of a higher gear ratio. "treble hook baits" is a fairly wide variety of baits so we can all interpret a bit different. but for me it seems easier to slow myself down with a higher speed reel than to ever try to "speed up" with a slower reel Quote
Super User J Francho Posted February 26, 2014 Super User Posted February 26, 2014 A 7:1 reel with a D20 deep diver makes for VERY slow reeling. I reel pretty slow with my slowish reels. Quote
John G Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 The kid is 15. When I was 15, I did not have a boat or access to a boat. That is why I said Squarebills in my first post. If he is fishing from the bank, a higher speed reel would be fine if he is using Squarebills. Quote
Super User buzzed bait Posted February 26, 2014 Super User Posted February 26, 2014 A 7:1 reel with a D20 deep diver makes for VERY slow reeling. I reel pretty slow with my slowish reels. fair point…. that's beyond my realm of deep diving so i can see the point. also, probably should be said that i'm just a slow person period so my "slow" is like turtle style and my "fast" is more of a moderate i'd say (I drive the same way, as annoying as that is for most) OP, perhaps you think about the 6:x:1 as you could really look to use that as a multipurpose reel. Although the more relevant point was made by jfrancho as he mentions IPT that for me is the definitive marker for the reel speed much more so that gear ratio Quote
bassboy107 Posted February 26, 2014 Author Posted February 26, 2014 I am mostly fishing from the bank but ocasionally out of a canoe, so mostly squarebills The kid is 15. When I was 15, I did not have a boat or access to a boat. That is why I said Squarebills in my first post. If he is fishing from the bank, a higher speed reel would be fine if he is using Squarebills. Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 I will give you my honest opinion on this whole matter. 1. I would strongly recommend looking into a medium power moderate action for cranks. Moderate fast in some brands is not as slow of a taper as it should be for cranking. I would go with medium power because I assume you are fishing from shore, and who uses deep divers from shore? --Unless you are fishing in odd circumstances where it is 20 feet deep about 20-30 yards from shore. You don't need a medium heavy for the smaller square bills or jerkbaits or rattletraps. A Medium rod will load up so much nicer and launch the bait quite easily. Medium heavy on the other hand (when using lighter cranks around 3/8 oz) will not load up much, and you will have to cast much harder, which could lead to injuries. 2. For the gear ratio, go with 6.3:1. Any slower, and you will be winding like crazy. With shallow diving cranks, there is 0 need to use a lower ratio because there is not that much pressure on the user's hand. A 5:1 is only necessary with bigger cranks that dive 10+ feet because those things really pull. For jerks and cranks lighter than 1/2 or right around there, a 7' or more Medium powered moderate graphite rod and a 6.x:1 reel is perfect IMO. OK, now for the reel. I would go with one of the following (all of which can be had for under 120 if you look around): Daiwa tatula Curado G Curado E Chronarch E Citica E Daiwa ballistic (search for *** classic sale) Quote
John G Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 My recommendation from reading the viewpoints on this Forum, is scrap the crankbait rod. It's nice if you have plenty of money to spend on combos but if you don't have plenty of money, you need a versatile combo. I would say get a 6'6" or 7' Medium/Fast rod. If you do not have a lot of branches to worry about, I would get the 7 footer. You could use the MF combo for plenty of different techniques besides treble hooks. A higher speed reel like I mentioned earlier would be fine for Squarebill. There are many fine reels out there to do what you want to do. Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted February 26, 2014 Super User Posted February 26, 2014 I think it's more of a personal opinion as far as the reels go. I use 7.1 for just about everything and I don't have any issues with it. If you feel you can slow down enough I say go for it. If not then go with something slower. Quote
Jaiden Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 BPS PQ 6.3:1. Pick it up during the sale for $80. It's a great reel and one of the best in the $100 range. 6.3:1 is a versatile ratio that you can slow down on deep cranks or speed up when you're ripping a jerkbait. Tight lines Quote
mjseverson24 Posted February 26, 2014 Posted February 26, 2014 I would check out the daiwa exceller in the 5 or 6:1. nice reel for less than 100. you can also get the skeet reese reel right now for like 50 or less. that is also a good option for the price. Mitch Quote
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