The Rooster Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I have several plastics here that I'm wondering why I even bought. They still look like fish catchers but truthfully I have no idea exactly how to fish some of them. So I have a few questions. 1. How do you fish a Zoom Trick worm? What colors do you get? I currently have white ice, disco green, and summer craw. I figured these would be used weightless, either tex posed or wacky. Maybe shakeyhead but they look too long for that. Carolina maybe? 2. The Zoom Finesse worm, a smaller version of the trick worm, do you fish it the same way or is it for some other technique. I had been using these for shakeyhead worms, but I see now that they have a skinny tailed worm for this. Does it work better? Seems like it might be easier to get action from. I don't own any yet, and I only had one color of the finesse worms, plum, but I sold those, so now I currently have none. I believe I thought I might actually just snip a trick worm down two inches to use for a finesse if I needed one. Was that a fair idea, or is there a need for finesse worms separately? 3. They make magnum versions of both of these. What are they for? Seems a magnum finesse worm is a contradiction of terms. 4. What do you store your plastics in? I have 30 bags now, stored in a small tackle bag. Any more and I'll have such a mess it would be hard to find anything. But I know I'll buy more when I see some I like. I guess I'm supposed to just take certain ones with me depending on time of year and location maybe? Sorry for such stupid questions. I just want to hear from people who fish these baits to get ideas for them. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 3. They make magnum versions of both of these. What are they for? Seems a magnum finesse worm is a contradiction of terms. That bait on the back of a scrounger has accounted for several over-sized bass for me. A-Jay Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 Answers to your questions: 1.- How to rig and fish the Trickworm ----> man, an encyclopaedia is not enough to describe in how many ways you can rig and fish a Trickworm. In practical terms, you can rig it any way you can imagine and it will catch fish, it´s good for almost any rigging method. 2.- What applies to the Trickworm applies to the Finesse worm. 3.- "Finesse" is a relative term, I don´t think it has anything to do with size, what are they for ? for doing the same thing. 4.- I store my plastics in their bags and those bags inside Plano 3700 size boxes. 1 Quote
Tugmaster Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Go to the Video section here and look at Carolina rig, Mojo rig, drop shot, Texas rig. That should get you going. Todd Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 x2 on Raul's post. I personally use the Trick Worms wacky rigging and Drop shot the most. But any of technique will work. Quote
Alpha Male Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I always store plastics in their original bags. and never mix them. that way you know what the label says is in the bag. when the bag gets low its time to reorder. Quote
The Rooster Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 x2 on Raul's post. I personally use the Trick Worms wacky rigging and Drop shot the most. But any of technique will work. Is a bait like this not too long? I thought a drop shot should be a small bait since the hook is so small. Wouldn't the worm sag down since it sticks out sideways from the line? Quote
Super User lmbfisherman Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 Is a bait like this not too long? I thought a drop shot should be a small bait since the hook is so small. Wouldn't the worm sag down since it sticks out sideways from the line? No problem being too long, plus that is why you give it action when you shake/lift up/down your rod every now and then. It catches fish is all I know. I wouldn't put a magnum worm nose hooked on a standard DS hook. YOu probably can get away with wacky rigging it on the DS hook though. I will however use longer worms on a bubbashot. (basically a DS setup but with an EWG) Quote
The Rooster Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 I always store plastics in their original bags. and never mix them. that way you know what the label says is in the bag. when the bag gets low its time to reorder. I always keep them in their packages too. Learned that the hard way many years ago. What a mess that was. But I was wondering how you store all those bags? I have 30 right now. That's after selling some a while back. Now I probably don't need more but it would be useless of anyone to tell me thIs because I already know I will buy more. Is a large gym bag the only answer, or do I need to learn which ones to leave at home on different trips at different times of the year? Raul said he uses a 3700 for his. I used to do this too when I took them from the bags. Some of my bags are too large to really fit those boxes anyway. How do you store yours? Quote
The Rooster Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 No problem being too long, plus that is why you give it action when you shake/lift up/down your rod every now and then. It catches fish is all I know. I wouldn't put a magnum worm nose hooked on a standard DS hook. YOu probably can get away with wacky rigging it on the DS hook though. I will however use longer worms on a bubbashot. (basically a DS setup but with an EWG) I've been reading about different bubba rigs lately. A bubba shakeyhead for example, using a 3/8 jig head. Nice! I never would have thought of that. Quote
Alpha Male Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I always keep them in their packages too. Learned that the hard way many years ago. What a mess that was. But I was wondering how you store all those bags? I have 30 right now. That's after selling some a while back. Now I probably don't need more but it would be useless of anyone to tell me thIs because I already know I will buy more. Is a large gym bag the only answer, or do I need to learn which ones to leave at home on different trips at different times of the year? Raul said he uses a 3700 for his. I used to do this too when I took them from the bags. Some of my bags are too large to really fit those boxes anyway. How do you store yours? I have 2 3731's I have a ton a plastics as well. Quote
Pz3 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Texas Rig, Carolina, No weight, fish it anyways you see fit. use a ton of action or no action, slow reeling allows it to bounce and look like a natural worm, while doing stuff like walking the dog makes it absolutely insane like a flook. Awesome worms you wont regret it. Store them in the original bags. Quote
Arv Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I like to fish trick worms weightless and twitch them like a fluke almost. I'll throw them on light Texas rigs, shakey heads, Carolina rigs, etc. etc. etc. Quote
Super User Gatorbassman Posted February 16, 2014 Super User Posted February 16, 2014 You listed most of my most used soft plastics so this is how I am most effective with them. In fact, if I was only allowed one soft plastic for a day of fishing it would be a green pumpkin trick worm. Trickworm- Carolina Rig, Shakyhead, Mojo Rig, weightless, Niko Rig, wacky rig, dropshot, Finesse - Dropshot, shakyhead, Mojo Rig Maginum Finesse - (It is a lot like the old french fry worm) Carolina rig and a dragging jighead, Also makes a great chatterbait trailer. 1 Quote
TorqueConverter Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Zoom Trick worm? Carolina maybe? Bingo. I'm hard pressed to belive there is a better bait on the back of a C-rig than a Trick Worm or Fish Doctor. I'm not a shaky head guy, but they do work well there as well. When it comes to straight tails, Trick Worm all day long. Don't forget about the ribbon tail stuff. Once a fish catcher, always a fish catcher. The good ole ribbon tail worm is still my #t1 T-Rigged bait and is as old as the T-rig itself. Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 16, 2014 Super User Posted February 16, 2014 BTW, don´t ever throw away a crooked Trickworm, those non straight ones are even more deadly. Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 16, 2014 Super User Posted February 16, 2014 Rooster I don't recall if you are a boat angler or shore bond? Took a look at Yatesville lake to determine the type of water you like to bass fish. Yatesville looks like a deep structure lake with fairly clear water. The Trick worm originated as a surface worm wacky rigged. Basically a straight tail, similar to the original Mann's Jelly worm with thicker tail. You should stop buying more until you figure out what works for you. What type of tackle do you use, Line # test? The presentation should be compatible with your tackle and how you fish. Tom Quote
The Rooster Posted February 17, 2014 Author Posted February 17, 2014 I have a boat but sometimes do fish from shore. I have multiple rods with 8 and 12 pound Berkley Trilene XL mono, and 12, 14, and 17 pound copolymer Berkley Sensations line. Quote
The Rooster Posted February 17, 2014 Author Posted February 17, 2014 BTW, don´t ever throw away a crooked Trickworm, those non straight ones are even more deadly. Hmm....maybe I can bend some with a lighter? Quote
The Fisher Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 I store mine in zip lock snack bags. They are pretty small. They hold about 4-5 worms, creatures, etc. I use one bag for each type and color, then label them with a labels I buy at Office Depot like you put on folders. I then store them in an Academy Magnum Worm Binder. This is especially good for me since I am a bank fisherman. http://www.academy.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_10051_516652_-1__?N=272574547 Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 17, 2014 Super User Posted February 17, 2014 Hmm....maybe I can bend some with a lighter? Nope, you heat them up in boiling water, crook and allow them to cool down. Quote
Fabricator Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 For trick worms and finesse worms, both regular and magnum I Texas rig them. I started with these, and really are still my goto bait, espailly at night. As far as colors here's what I have in my box right now. Plum, watermelon candy, black, green pumpkin, pumpkin seed, black with blue. I like using watermelon candy and black at night, usually trick worms in both magnum and regular sizes for night time. Hasn't failed me yet. Hope this helps Quote
Super User WRB Posted February 17, 2014 Super User Posted February 17, 2014 I have a boat but sometimes do fish from shore. I have multiple rods with 8 and 12 pound Berkley Trilene XL mono, and 12, 14, and 17 pound copolymer Berkley Sensations line.Thanks.Lets start with the 8 lb mono outfit. 1. Drop shot. Size 1 drop shot hook, Owner, Gamakatsu or VMC, 3/16 oz weight, nose or wacky rigged worm. 2. Finesse C-rig (slip shot). Size 1/0 Owner #5133 down shot hook, 3/16 mojo style cylinder weight, Carolina Keeper weight stopper, 24" up the line from the hook. Weedless hook the worm (Texas) and skin cover the hook point. 12 lb mono or Sensation. 1. Texas rig. 3/16 oz painted bullet weight, 8mm red glass facetted bead, 3/0 straight shank worm hook, Owner 5100 or Gamakatsu 11. 2. C- rig. 1/2 oz sliding egg sinker, 8mm red glass faceted bead, barrel swivel, 30" 8 or 12 lb leader, 3/0 worm hook ( same as T-rig). That it!!! Don't over do this. Focus on points and transition areas for the next few months with the 4 rigs, make fan casts to cover 3' to 20' depths. Good luck. Tom Quote
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