coots Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Like the title says, how do you guys stay warm during the freezing cold months? I tried a Columbia down jacket, some really nice skiing socks I found online, several different things for headwear and I found myself still getting pretty dang cold. So I've been looking into some fishing cold weather gear. I've got some really bulky gloves that kept my hands warm but dexterity was out the window. I found these bibs online at Cabelas on sale about $100 off original price: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Clothing/Mens-Casual-Clothing/Mens-Fishing-Clothing/Mens-Fishing-Clothing-Outerwear%7C/pc/104797080/c/104746680/sc/104329080/i/104170680/Cabelas-GORE-TEXreg-Bass-Angler-Guidewearreg-Bibs-Regular/1573172.uts?destination=%2Fcategory%2FMens-Fishing-Clothing-Outerwear%2F104170680.uts&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104170680 Anyone got any comments on this gore-tex stuff? They also have these gore-tex jackets on clearance too: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Clothing/Mens-Casual-Clothing/Mens-Fishing-Clothing/Mens-Fishing-Clothing-Outerwear%7C/pc/104797080/c/104746680/sc/104329080/i/104170680/Cabelas-GORE-TEX174-Fishing-Jacket-150-Tall/1154503.uts?destination=%2Fcategory%2FMens-Fishing-Clothing-Outerwear%2F104170680.uts&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104170680 These pants are on closeout: http://www.cabelas.com/product/Clothing/Mens-Casual-Clothing/Mens-Fishing-Clothing/Mens-Fishing-Clothing-Outerwear%7C/pc/104797080/c/104746680/sc/104329080/i/104170680/Cabelas-GORE-TEX174-EXV8482-Pants-150-Tall/750200.uts?destination=%2Fcategory%2FMens-Fishing-Clothing-Outerwear%2F104170680.uts&WTz_l=DirectLoad%3Bcat104170680 I can't seem to decide if bibs with my other jacket would be suffice or would i just be better off to go ahead and get the pants with the jacket and be done with it. Also, what do you guys do for warm gloves, but keeping you dexterity about you? And I don't want to hear no "man up" and deal with it... I don't care who you are... single digits and driving down the tennessee river at 65-70mph is cold. Quote
blongfishing Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Go see Glenn's video on YouTube it helped me out this winter. Quote
Super User Sam Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 Layer Regular underwear and cotton socks Long Johns Fleece Lined Jeans Heavy fleece shirt Heavy cotton sweatshirt BPS 100MPH Gore-Tex parka and bibs Heavy hunting socks from BPS over cotton socks Snow Boots BUN to cover face Fleece lined cap Rabbit hair gloves that I take on and off. If I can move I will fish!!!! But I will be warm. Quote
Tiller Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Gore tex is great for water and wind but won't keep you all that warm without some insulation. It doesn't look like those jackets and bibs have any insulation. I believe they make some insulated gore tex bibs or even the cheaper insulated cabelas dry plus stuff should work. The gore tex ice angler bibs/parka would keep you really warm but is probably overkill for Tennessee. Joe Quote
Crappiebasser Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I have a Marmot snow suit from my snow machine riding days in Buffalo that is more than enough for anything we have in Alabama. They are very expensive but if you check eBay during the summer you might find a used one cheap. Quote
jhoffman Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 What was the fill on the down jacket? Not all down is created equal. Youre looking to need a 600 or 800 fill for winter. I can suit you up to be warm, but youre going to pay dearly. Ill give you a piece of advice, its all about layers. Do you want to buy something from people who think they know the outdoors or people who live it? The hiking companies have great clothing thats not camo. Id go with... 1st layer: Merino Wool - it wont get stinky and provides warmth if you do sweat and get it wet 2nd layer: Fleece or wool 3rd layer: Down 4th layer: Shell wind/waterproof On the feet: Merino socks in a boot rated minimum for -40, go up a half size, tight boots make cold feet On the hands: Light glove like a sitka liner glove and handwarmers in your pockets. Take the gloves off dealing with baits or cut the index/thumb off. On the head: Fur lined hat or Merino 1 Quote
jeremyryanwebb Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 If all else fails....Bourbon keeps you warm. 1 Quote
Brian Needham Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 I got a set of Arctic Armor bibs and jacket and they are WARM. best bibs I have EVER owned. I wear boot socks, pair of kackis, t shirt, and under armour hoodie under my bibs and DO NOT get cold, am I am fairly weak when deealing with the cold....... yes you read correct, no base layers, just normal everyday clothes underneath. if my top half gets cold I add another hoddie, but if I wore a base layer top I probably wouldnt need that. I have ridden the spray rig at work in 20 degree weather and been toasty. I REALLY like these bibs. I have only needed to wear the jacket once..... but I will wear the jacket in the boat while making lake runs to kill the wind. best part is, the ARCTIC ARMOR is cheaper than a 100mph suit and others on the market. in fact I need to get a single insulation pair just to work in, as the triple insulation pair I have is too marm to work in even when it is 13 dgrees out. my point to all this is, layering is a thing of the past for me now. Quote
Brian Needham Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 And I don't want to hear no "man up" and deal with it... I don't care who you are... single digits and driving down the tennessee river at 65-70mph is cold. Pete K has told me here on the boards, he has made long river runs at pickwick (from dam to savannha) with it being 9 degrees outside and never felt the first chill in his Arctic Armor suit...... this is while his partner was lying in the bottom of the boat sniffling, LOL 1 Quote
coots Posted February 15, 2014 Author Posted February 15, 2014 First I've heard of this Arctic Armour stuff. I don't see "suits" on their website... do you guys use their bibs/jackets? Or am I missing an entire zip up suit? https://www.idigear.com/arcticarmor1.php Quote
reb67 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Bib/jacket the way to go if the sun comes out you will what to take off top I think fleece is the way to go also Layers so can adjust to the day Quote
Brian Needham Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 PM sent coots. just letting you know where I got mine. suit means bib/jacket combo. I am 5'11 and 270 and they told me to get the XXL, and it was a good fit..... Jacket was a hair bit tight in the shoulders when I "flex my arms around" but I really dont plan on wearing the jacket other than lake runs. I have since lost 15 or so pounds, and bibs still fit really good. call that website I sent you and ask 20 questions like I did, and they will fix you up! Quote
Super User Raul Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 Uhhh, which are the " the freezing cold months?" It´s mid February and down here it´s 80+. Quote
Mainebass1984 Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Dress like your going skiing. t-shirt long sleeve shirt fleece lined hooded sweat shirt fleece vest winter goose down filled hooded parka fleece long under wear fleece lined jeans snow pants smart wool socks another pair of wool socks tall waterproof boots with at least 800 grams insulate a pair of thin gloves if it isn't too cold a good warm pair of skiing gloves a fleece lined hat that covers your ears I bring a couple hand warmers as well. They last 8-10 hours. Stick them in your gloves and you wont have cold hands. Catching fish seems to keep me warm too. Fishing in a snow storm is usually pretty productive. If its cold enough to wear all that gear you should be wearing a life jacket as well and let someone know where your going and when youll be back. 1 Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 There is a bunch of literature out there that will reference how to layer indifferent climates. You live in Alabama, I'd recommend an non- insulated gore tex suit (jacket & bibs) with layers underneath. Carry a few pairs of wool fingerless gloves to fish in and and pair of wind proof mittens or neoprene gloves for when you are running fast down the lake. Take the time & money and get a suit that FITS. This isn't an area of tackle where its is ok to go cheap. A suit that doesn't fit is a major distraction and will divert your attention from fishing. I've heard good stuff about the ARTIC ARMOR, but I've never seen it so I can't really say. I have a suit of Cabelas Guide Wear. When I was in a buying mood, I looked at several different suits at BPS and Cabelas and the Guide Wear fit me best. This isn't something that I would buy out of a catalog. I spend over $300 on mine and I wanted to be sure that I got something that fit the first time. If I had any criticism of the Guide Wear, it would be that there are many zippered pockets in it and sometimes I forget which pocket I put stuff in. The zippers are heavy duty and can be a challenge to work when your fingers are cold Quote
ClackerBuzz Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 it's been said and i agree....layer as much sheep and duck on u as possible all these high tech fabrics on the market aren't jack compared to wool and down. (excluding the top windproof/waterproof layer) i'll second flannel lined jeans too. i fell in love with these this year but they ran out of my size http://www.landsend.com/pp/StylePage-437387_AF.html?CM_MERCH=Shopping_Cart Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 Layer Regular underwear and cotton socks Long Johns Fleece Lined Jeans Heavy fleece shirt Heavy cotton sweatshirt BPS 100MPH Gore-Tex parka and bibs Heavy hunting socks from BPS over cotton socks Snow Boots BUN to cover face Fleece lined cap Rabbit hair gloves that I take on and off. If I can move I will fish!!!! But I will be warm. And, Sam, if nature makes an emergency call, you are in a WORLD of trouble. Hootie 1 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 socks socks and more socks. i can bear most fish able weather in a hoodie face mask, stocking cap, goretex bibs and underarmor but if my feet every get cold....forget it. i usually use 2 pairs of socks and (i think) cabelas 2000 pac bay infernos. Quote
Super User 00 mod Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 OK here is my recipe, and I fish some cold weather every year: 1 pair of wool socks 1 pair of boxers full set of base layers regular pair of jeans long sleeve t shirt Columbia hoodie Coveralls Columbia Whirlibird Interchange jacket tobaggan and baclava hot hands and 2 pairs of gloves( in case the first get wet/cold) Jeff Quote
Super User Fishing Rhino Posted February 15, 2014 Super User Posted February 15, 2014 Layer Regular underwear and cotton socks Long Johns Fleece Lined Jeans Heavy fleece shirt Heavy cotton sweatshirt BPS 100MPH Gore-Tex parka and bibs Heavy hunting socks from BPS over cotton socks Snow Boots BUN to cover face Fleece lined cap Rabbit hair gloves that I take on and off. If I can move I will fish!!!! But I will be warm. 2 Quote
Alpha Male Posted February 15, 2014 Posted February 15, 2014 Dress like your going skiing. t-shirt long sleeve shirt fleece lined hooded sweat shirt fleece vest winter goose down filled hooded parka fleece long under wear fleece lined jeans snow pants smart wool socks another pair of wool socks tall waterproof boots with at least 800 grams insulate a pair of thin gloves if it isn't too cold a good warm pair of skiing gloves a fleece lined hat that covers your ears I bring a couple hand warmers as well. They last 8-10 hours. Stick them in your gloves and you wont have cold hands. Catching fish seems to keep me warm too. Fishing in a snow storm is usually pretty productive. If its cold enough to wear all that gear you should be wearing a life jacket as well and let someone know where your going and when youll be back. I have to disagree. skiing is a moving sport. I would say dress like you're deer hunting in Minnesota in november. This is what I wear deer hunting Pants: Under armor long underwear (over my regular underwear) Duluth trading firehose work pants Nike track pants Blaze orange pants ( no real insulation ) Tops: Under armor Cold gear long sleeve shirt (compression gear) long sleeve t-shirt Fleece hooded sweatshirt (1 size larger than normal) Carhartt jacket (1 size larger than normal) Blaze orange jacket. (no real insulation) I also wear a full balaclava, under armor thin gloves under my thicker thinsulate 800gram gloves. I would swap out the blaze orange for rain gear to stay dry. Im really surprised no one has mentioned under armor at all. This is good enough for me to sit motionless in a tree stand in below zero weather all day. Side note: If your going over 20mph in your boat I would recommend a paintball mask. they're cheap and very effective at wind protection. Quote
Pz3 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I never been fishing in the cold (below freezing) but I have done plenty of camping between 80 and -20. Ill talk about gortex in a bit. I was trained to use military grade cold weather gear so I will talk about that. The system I used is called Gen III ECWCS (Extended cold weather clothing system). There are many civilian products which will do the same thing but I'll just explain how I do it. -Layer One = This is the clothing that comes into contact with the skin. Silk bottoms and tops are mositure wicking to prevent frostbite from sweat. Under Armor makes similare products that can be used. -Layer Two = Insulating layer, this can be any soft materials. Jacket liners, or pants materials that will keep you warm. -Layer Three = Gortex Parka/Trousers This is a water barrier layer, keeps the wet out and heat in, Very good fabric to keep you dry. Vapor barrier boots below -10 and Gortex lined boots below 32 Wool Socks! I prefer baliclavas as for head gear Quote
Super User WIGuide Posted February 16, 2014 Super User Posted February 16, 2014 Is it just me or does it make sense to go with the cheapest option at least to start with...maybe slowing down a little when it's that cold. 1 Quote
shootermcbob Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 What was the fill on the down jacket? Not all down is created equal. Youre looking to need a 600 or 800 fill for winter. I can suit you up to be warm, but youre going to pay dearly. Ill give you a piece of advice, its all about layers. Do you want to buy something from people who think they know the outdoors or people who live it? The hiking companies have great clothing thats not camo. Id go with... 1st layer: Merino Wool - it wont get stinky and provides warmth if you do sweat and get it wet 2nd layer: Fleece or wool 3rd layer: Down 4th layer: Shell wind/waterproof On the feet: Merino socks in a boot rated minimum for -40, go up a half size, tight boots make cold feet On the hands: Light glove like a sitka liner glove and handwarmers in your pockets. Take the gloves off dealing with baits or cut the index/thumb off. On the head: Fur lined hat or Merino The only thing I would add is a balaclava, or something to keep the wind off your neck. Outer layer MUST be at least windproof, preferably waterproof. the key is maintaining all body heat you generate...wind coming through your clothes steals this heat. Do not be afraid to wear two garments on your head...a balaclava and a wool hat for example. Quote
gr8outdoorz Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 [quote name="jhoffman"" data-ipsquote-timestamp="1392474427"> What was the fill on the down jacket? Not all down is created equal. Youre looking to need a 600 or 800 fill for winter. I can suit you up to be warm, but youre going to pay dearly. Ill give you a piece of advice, its all about layers. Do you want to buy something from people who think they know the outdoors or people who live it? The hiking companies have great clothing thats not camo. Id go with... 1st layer: Merino Wool - it wont get stinky and provides warmth if you do sweat and get it wet 2nd layer: Fleece or wool 3rd layer: Down 4th layer: Shell wind/waterproof On the feet: Merino socks in a boot rated minimum for -40, go up a half size, tight boots make cold feet On the hands: Light glove like a sitka liner glove and handwarmers in your pockets. Take the gloves off dealing with baits or cut the index/thumb off. On the head: Fur lined hat or Merino This! You have been given great advice about layering, but one thing that has not been said is you have to get your body used to being out in the cold. I have done a bit of mountain climbing throughout my life and the cold was not always bearable. After a number of years camping, climbing, & living in the cold for weeks at a time, It is MUCH easier because you just become more accustomed to it. The more you get out in it the better you are at dealing with it. Quote
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