Super User SirSnookalot Posted February 16, 2014 Super User Posted February 16, 2014 The espousement of ones morality and values, service to country and family lineage have nothing to do with the issue. A governing body with high degree of integrity, that places stringent standards on what is declared to be records, has sanctioned this Japanese bass as the reigning world record. On the human side I can understand the feeling of diluting the accomplishment by a non American on foreign soil to surpass an American record. I do not share that feeling. Whether it's a fish or an Olympic record, I give credit to the person that has labored to attain that level of accomplishment. 3
shimmy Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 no my grandfather on dads side was 1/2 sioux half irish...yeah i dont drink..when i was younger it never turned out well.I did the dna swab a cple of years ago and they sent me a stack of stuff i could apply for because i was native enough..dont me get going on that.. yeah some things were being said that were becoming very close to personal insults..so i wanted to bring it down a notch or two..and no you didnt say it.. BUT yes we shall politely agree to disagree...i think im getting cabin fever..it decided to turn this town into a glazed donut today more freezing rain.I need to stop piddling with tackle and go fishing. The analogy was to point out the extremity of your position. Thanks for taking the "high road" as you mentioned...The main reason you got a rebuttal was due to your lack of high road linguistics calling fisherman on a fisherman's website "cheaters" and "dishonorable" for trying to catch a world record bass and claim it as so. Being a rational guy as you exclaim, just ponder on that and attempt to see why the replies on a fishing forum disagreed. As for trying to insult you and your veteran family, I'm surprised you took it that way. It was stated to illustrate the extremity of your argument. I applaud your patriotism, and did not intend to proclaim how unpatriotic you were; yet since you were offended in that manner, it was not my intention and i apologize. Given the circularity of this discussion, i agree with flyfisher that we will have to agree to disagree. 3
BassObsessed Posted February 17, 2014 Posted February 17, 2014 It's interesting to hear varied opinions on when and where the new world record bass will be caught. I'm amongst the many that would like to have that record. I think a few places already mentioned has one now or could hold a record bass in due time. Whether it's a private lake with forage purposely stocked or not is hard to say.
Jaheff Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 Just a footnote on California FLMB. Lake Hodges in San Diego produced a ceritfied 20.4 lb LMB, there are NO trout in Hodges only bluegill, crappie, threadfin shad, crawdads and channel catfish. Ideal environment, long growing seasons, no commercial fishing, lower fishing pressure; Hodges is only open 3 days a week like the other SD area lakes. If CA produces a new world record bass the lake may be San Vincente, it's been closed several years due to the dam being raised 117' higher creating a new bigger lake. San V has produced several 18-19 lb bass in the past. Tom And no striper's in Hodges.
Super User South FLA Posted February 18, 2014 Super User Posted February 18, 2014 Been reading through the post again, interesting points of view. I used the bass to deer comparison as an analogy, albeit a bit flawed. In my opinion, its still a HUGE accomplishment to catch a WR LMB! Nevertheless, in my opinion as the IGFA evolves there should be a subcategory that recognizes record fish caught in their native range as well as world record class (see below quoted from fishwagon.com) "The largemouth bass is native only to North America, and its original range was generally the eastern half of the United States and southern Ontario and Quebec in Canada. The native range extended south from Iowa to Texas and northeastern Mexico, and east to the South Atlantic coast and western New York and Pennsylvania. Due to extensive stocking and the largemouth’s adaptable nature, it is now abundant throughout the Appalachian and Ozark Ranges, most of the northeastern U.S. from Maryland to Maine, and easternmost Canada. Since the late 1800s, its range has been expanded to include major or minor portions of every state in the U.S. except Alaska, and most of the southern fringes of Canada, as well as several regions in Europe, Asia, Africa, South America, Central America, and the Caribbean." So you would have an all tackle class world record and a native class record. There should also be a category for hybrid and crossbred species of the largemouth since genetic testing is advanced enough to know the record's origin (So a sub-category for pure Florida Strain, Pure Northern, etc.)
Brian Needham Posted February 18, 2014 Posted February 18, 2014 oh, and yes a new WR will be caught, but No it will not be caught in Merica.
Super User 00 mod Posted February 18, 2014 Super User Posted February 18, 2014 We are done here gentlemen. Jeff
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