Just Ordered A 798..

[DelcoSol]

Finally got it installed. Just wanted thoughts on transducer placement. Sorry the pics aren't the best but the seam at the center of the transducer is even with the bottom of the hull and it is level both ways. I am not sure what the white thing is next to it? Speedo maybe? if its in the way I will just take it off because it doesn't work too often anyway. 

 

 

 

[Wayne P.]

Yes, that is the speedometer pitot tube. Remove it, your unit has a GPS speed readout.

[Smokinal]

The only thing prettier than the 798 in that last pic is the bare ground!

[Talonman]

+1...  Fing mounting job DelcoSol

[Wayne P.]

I can't tell in the pictures, did you insert the rooster tail plug in the mount?

[DelcoSol]

I can't tell in the pictures, did you insert the rooster tail plug in the mount?

Not sure what you mean?  It basically fit exactly where my old lowrance unit did. the base holes almost were the same too. I just ran the transducer and power wires to the unit through the console the same way it was and plugged it in. 

 

The only thing prettier than the 798 in that last pic is the bare ground!

It's not bare here anymore 

[slonezp]

Not sure what you mean?  

There is a small rectangular adaptor piece that prevent the transducer from shooting up roostertails. It should have come with the mounting hardware

[DelcoSol]

Do you have a picture of it?

[Wayne P.]

Do you have a picture of it?

[DelcoSol]

Yes I have that. The instructions do not mention it. I was wondering what it was. How does it go on?

[Talonman]

Thanks for the post!! Now I finally know what I am missing...

I did not get one, and I have the rooster tail issue BAD!

 

I wish Hummingbird would have given us all one. 

 

It's no wonder it is not mentioned in the instructions, 50% of us never received that part.

 

I am trying my best to mod their mount with black tape.

 

I also wish the Lund dealer would have correct that during the install, and informed me that they picked me out a bad box, with a critical missing part.

I bet they knew about this issue too. I am calling them in the AM to insure they dont do this to their other customers.

 

I think it goes near where your transducer meets the mount, so it wont scoup water up and throw it into the back of your boat, like mine does.

 

Update: I just wrote hummingbird, requesting my missing part, and linking to this thread.

 

What I would really like to know is who decided that only 50% of their 798's get the anti-rooster tail part, and why was that ok?

My stance is: When you spend over a grand on a unit, the plastic part that keeps you, and the inside of your boat dry, should have been included.

Now it's back on me to get the missing part, that some others got for free. Needless to say how that makes me feel.

 

That means I received bad SD card advice when contacting them directly, and my unit was missing a part that caused my friends to ask, why does your new boat shoot water in the back?

A question that I had no good answer for, until now.

 

Thanks again for the info, and picture posted. I now hold the answer!

[slonezp]

I did not get one, and I have the rooster tail issue.

 

I whish Hummingbird would have given us all one. 

 

I am trying my best with black tape.

 

I also wish the Lund dealer would have correct that during the install.

 

I think it goes near where your transducer meets the mount, so it wont scoup water up and throw it into the back of my boat, like mine does.

 

Update: I just wroth them, demanding my missing part, and linking to this thread.

Call HB up. I'm sure they'll send you one 

[DelcoSol]

I got one. It just wasn't in the instructions so I figured it was some kind of shipping thing rather than a crucial part. 

[Talonman]

Call HB up. I'm sure they'll send you one 

I hope so...

 

They now know. 

[Wayne P.]

Thanks for the post!! Now I finally know what I am missing...

I did not get one, and I have the rooster tail issue BAD!

 

I wish Hummingbird would have given us all one. 

 

It's no wonder it is not mentioned in the instructions, 50% of us never received that part.

 

I am trying my best to mod their mount with black tape.

 

I also wish the Lund dealer would have correct that during the install, and informed me that they picked me out a bad box, with a critical missing part.

I bet they knew about this issue too. I am calling them in the AM to insure they dont do this to their other customers.

 

I think it goes near where your transducer meets the mount, so it wont scoup water up and throw it into the back of your boat, like mine does.

 

Update: I just wrote hummingbird, requesting my missing part, and linking to this thread.

 

What I would really like to know is who decided that only 50% of their 798's get the anti-rooster tail part, and why was that ok?

My stance is: When you spend over a grand on a unit, the plastic part that keeps you, and the inside of your boat dry, should have been included.

Now it's back on me to get the missing part, that some others got for free. Needless to say how that makes me feel.

 

That means I received bad SD card advice when contacting them directly, and my unit was missing a part that caused my friends to ask, why does your new boat shoot water in the back?

A question that I had no good answer for, until now.

 

Thanks again for the info, and picture posted. I now hold the answer!

The rooster tail plug is part of the XNT mount. Several transducers use that mount.

It has been included with the mount for at least 5 years.

Your unit model makes no difference.

I have several since I break the XNT mount in stumps occasionally and have spare mounts.

 

Send me a PM and I'll send you one of you can't find yours.

[slonezp]

The rooster tail plug is part of the XNT mount. Several transducers use that mount.

It has been included with the mount for at least 5 years.

Your unit model makes no difference.

I have several since I break the XNT mount in stumps occasionally and have spare mounts.

 

Send me a PM and I'll send you one of you can't find yours.

Dealer rigged the boat and dealer threw out the part because they didn't know what it was for

[Talonman]

PM sent! Thanks again Wayne, you are the man... 

 

This is how it currently looks: Black tape and Zip ties was my mod.

Bofore that, you could see straight through. No rubber stopper to fill the huge gap.

 

 

 

I tried to fix this myself, unsuccessfully. I thought it look good, but it still shoots water in the back of my boat, with some water deflectiong off the engine first.

[Talonman]

Wayne, If you havent found one yet, you don't have to worry about it brother!!

 

The Lund dealer took care of me in Aces.

 

They Fed Ex me one overnight, including install instructions, and alen wrench. I am now taken care of.

 

Install instructions:

 

1 - Unscrew the transducer mount arms to loosen the mount space.

 

2 - Push the Transducer Incert up through the mount space until it is fully incerted. If the space is not easily accessible, lift up the Transducer.

 

(picture shows slots pointing down towards the ground, and the smaller end of the incert going in first. The larger end with the ridge is toward your boat, and the smaller end being incerted into the gap.)

(also your incerting the Transducer Incert from below the transducer, not from above)

 

3 - Once the Transducer Incert is fully incerted, reposition the transducer and tighten the mount arms. Adjust the transducer for on-the-water operation as needed (see your transducer installation guide for details).

 

I am not sure if Hummingbird is also going to send me one because as of yet, there has been no responce to my letter submitted on their web page.

 

Thanks again Wayne for trying to help me out. 

[DelcoSol]

Could you post a pic of it installed? My boat is not here and I just want to get an idea of where it goes.

[slonezp]

Wayne, If you havent found one yet, you don't have to worry about it brother!!

 

The Lund dealer took care of me in Aces.

 

They Fed Ex me one overnight, including install instructions, and alen wrench. I am now taken care of.

 

Install instructions:

 

1 - Unscrew the transducer mount arms to loosen the mount space.

 

2 - Push the Transducer Incert up through the mount space until it is fully incerted. If the space is not easily accessible, lift up the Transducer.

 

(picture shows slots pointing down towards the ground, and the smaller end of the incert going in first. The larger end with the ridge is toward your boat, and the smaller end being incerted into the gap.)

(also your incerting the Transducer Incert from below the transducer, not from above)

 

3 - Once the Transducer Incert is fully incerted, reposition the transducer and tighten the mount arms. Adjust the transducer for on-the-water operation as needed (see your transducer installation guide for details).

 

I am not sure if Hummingbird is also going to send me one because as of yet, there has been no responce to my letter submitted on their web page.

 

Thanks again Wayne for trying to help me out. 

Rather than writing HB, Give them a call. There customer service is excellent.

[Talonman]

Could you post a pic of it installed? My boat is not here and I just want to get an idea of where it goes.

 

Will do... I have to go to work now on my Night Shift job.

 

I will post one in the AM.

[Talonman]

I have time to post this...

 

 

Install shot will still be in the AM. 

[DelcoSol]

Thank you sir. Just what I needed. I wonder why my instructions do not include this?

[Talonman]

Glad to help!  

 

To me this part looks like an after-thought.

I would bet real money that the first units did not include this part. That is specifically why is there was no mention of this part in our manuals.

 

Then people starting having rooster tails that reached up into the heavens, and also having a up-hill jet of water pounding their engines, and made it known to Hummingbird.

 

Hummingbird then made this part, along with a single sheet of instructions to resolve the issue.

But there was no way that they were going to reprint the manual, or re-open some boxes to incert the part.

 

That is why it is not mentioned in either of our instruction books, or probably any for that matter??

 

I still don't really know if the dealer threw mine out, or if it was never included in my box when they packaged it.

 

When I called the dealer, and told them all my friends were asking why my new Lund Fury was spraying water in the back of my boat, it hit a nerve with them. (Good on the Lund delaer!)

 

They then had the very dude who completed my install call me, and he told me that he knew exactly what I needed, and was going to send one to me.

(Fed-EX over-night showed me that thay do care, and was unexpected to me.)

That is why I can't believe that he didn't know what this part was for, on my boat install day, and just threw it into the trash...

He has been working there for a while, and this was not his first Hummingbird install, I can assure you...

 

I still think it was not in my box, and it was an after-thought, after the initial production run.

If not, why no install instructions in the manual, rather than a single stand-alone yellow sheet of paper?? I think there is a story behind this part.

 

The end result being no mention of the part in the manual, and some boxes made it out the door with this part not included, like mine...

 

Granted, all conjecture on my part, but the customer is always right! 

 

Bottom line, I am just glad I now have it, and you helped to rub my nose on exactly what I was missing.

I didn't get time to install it yet, my 12 hour shifts take most of the day, along with seep and road trip, I simply ran out of time.

My weekend starts Sunday at 8AM this week. I will do my install shortly after that.

 

I will have to take my friends out for another ride after my install, to redeem the fine Lund name.

They were giving my boat credit for the abnormal rooster tail, not Hummingbird. I full well intend to correct that.

 

Still no contact from Hummingbird, other than an email confirming that they had my correct email address after contacting support.

There was a conformation link in the email, which I did click, and was added to their email list for adds.

The adds are comming in just fine.

 

Now that I have the part, I am just going to let nature take it's course, and see if they ever call or write me.

My cell phone number, and unit serial number was included when I sent them my request.

The timer is still running.

[Talonman]

Do let me know how your install goes!