mac_hine Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Hi all, So I am looking for some advice on a spinning rod setup. I am looking for all around setup, to use items I dont want to use a baitcaster with; grubs, small tubes, drop-shot, small shaky heads, small worms, even tiny crankbaits and jerkbaits. I know ideally I would want multiple setups to cover these applications, and I will eventually, but for now I was thinking of buying an extra spool and lining one with Flouro (either 6 or 8 lb test) and the other braid (either 4 or 6 lb test diameter). 1st the reel; I am almost certain on an Abu Garcia Revo S spinning reel, the S20. I entertained the Revo SX20 because it comes with an extra spool already but I prefer the handle on the S over the SX, and I can just order a new spool for the S from Abu for $20. Now the rod is where I need some advice. I like the Abu Veritas, but I am unsure on what power, size, action. I am also looking at the Duckett ghost series spinning rod but the Medium one is only recommended for 1/8 to 5/16 oz lures, and I'm not sure if this is ideal. The Medium/Light Veritas is 1/8 to 1/2. Another thing I was wondering about the Vertias spinning rods was if they ran heavy. I have a Veritas baitcaster that I really like but I feel like the Mediums feel like MH and the MH feel like H, but who knows. I am open to other rod suggestions too, I just dont want to spend more than $100 on the rod. Thanks for any and all advice! Veritas spinning rods: http://www.basspro.com/Abu-Garcia-Veritas-Spinning-Rods/product/10219168/ http://www.***.com/Abu_Garcia_Veritas_Spinning_Rods/descpage-AGVS.html Duckett Ghost spinning rods: http://www.basspro.com/Duckett-Fishing-Ghost-Spinning-Rods/product/1308160616379/ Revo S spinning reels: http://www.basspro.com/Abu-Garcia-Revo-S-Spinning-Reels/product/1207180531141/ Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 There are better options in that price range than the veritas for bottom bait techniques IMO. Look at the falcon bucoo, denali jadewood, ***, daiwa tatula, and even carbonlite. Get a medium for all around stuff. MH is far too heavy for dropshotting. A medium can easily handle texas rigs or shakey heads though. For line, I'd go with 10 lb sufix 832 braid or 6lb copoly. 8 lb fluoro does not handle well on spinning reels that are not 3000 size or bigger. For copoly, I like gamma, but also check out Yozuri hybrid which seems to be very popular here. Quote
mac_hine Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 There are better options in that price range than the veritas for bottom bait techniques IMO. Look at the falcon bucoo, denali jadewood, ***, daiwa tatula, and even carbonlite. Get a medium for all around stuff. MH is far too heavy for dropshotting. A medium can easily handle texas rigs or shakey heads though. For line, I'd go with 10 lb sufix 832 braid or 6lb copoly. 8 lb fluoro does not handle well on spinning reels that are not 3000 size or bigger. For copoly, I like gamma, but also check out Yozuri hybrid which seems to be very popular here. Great thanks for this advice, I have been eyeing both the Falcon Bucoo and the Carbonlite, I'll check out the other rods you mentioned too. Now what if I went down to 6 lb Flouro, would that handle well on this smaller reel? I fish a lot of crystal clear water and Flouro has made a HUGE difference in the size and amount of fish I catch. I could always use Flouro leaders too which I do when I use my braid filled baitcasters in clear water. Quote
Mike2841 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 If you're gonna go the veritas route I would get the ml. I have the revo s 30 on a medium veritas that I use to throw a variety of lures, I hardly ever go under 1/4 oz with it and I think the ml would be better suited for the smaller baits Quote
0119 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Watch the reel seat on the Veritas. My fishin' buddy has to tape his to prevent it from coming loose while in use. Ive seen his reel fall off, perhaps it has to do with the way he holds it. But I have the same problem with my Veritas casting rod too. Just fyi Quote
mac_hine Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 If you're gonna go the veritas route I would get the ml. I have the revo s 30 on a medium veritas that I use to throw a variety of lures, I hardly ever go under 1/4 oz with it and I think the ml would be better suited for the smaller baits Thanks Mike, great info. Veritas is still in the running for sure (love my 7' MH baitcaster) How do you like your setup? Quote
LivewellHero Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 St. Croix Mojo Bass is very nice, made with high quality components. I've had lots of issues with the Veritas series. I love the Shimano Compre as well. I'd personally go with the *** Omem Black, been eyeing it for a while now. Quote
mac_hine Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 Watch the reel seat on the Veritas. My fishin' buddy has to tape his to prevent it from coming loose while in use. Ive seen his reel fall off, perhaps it has to do with the way he holds it. But I have the same problem with my Veritas casting rod too. Just fyiThanks for the info 0119.I have a 7' MH Veritas baitcaster and really like the reel seat. When I first got it I did notice loosening but then I gave a pretty strong tightening (by hand) and its been rock solid ever since. Quote
Super User ww2farmer Posted February 4, 2014 Super User Posted February 4, 2014 Stricly speaking of Veritas's....I have many, and yes the spinning rods run stiff and heavy in the ratings too. IMHO, go with the ML, or the M (I wouldn't, as they are a little more stout than I care for in spinning rods, but they are not too stiff) The MH spinning rods are pool cues with guides. Quote
mac_hine Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 St. Croix Mojo Bass is very nice, made with high quality components. I've had lots of issues with the Veritas series. I love the Shimano Compre as well. I'd personally go with the *** Omem Black, been eyeing it for a while now. thanks, yeah i looked at the mojo tubes/grubs rod today at dicks sporting goods, felt/looked pretty nice. its one of the few spinning rods there in that price range, they had skeet spinning rods too. ideally id like to get my rod there because i get good discounts for big purchases, but it looks like ill probably have to order online or take a bps run. and yeah that *** looks great so does the jadewood jprw mentioned. i may get one of those. Quote
mac_hine Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 Stricly speaking of Veritas's....I have many, and yes the spinning rods run stiff and heavy in the ratings too. IMHO, go with the ML, or the M (I wouldn't, as they are a little more stout than I care for in spinning rods, but they are not too stiff) The MH spinning rods are pool cues with guides. haha pool cues. thanks for info. i have a H veritas baitcaster (not sure why i said MH before) and it is beast indeed. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted February 4, 2014 Super User Posted February 4, 2014 7' m or ml power with a fast action should do you nicely. I have a 7'1"MF St Croix rage and it is my all around spinning set up for the uses you described...i also fished the 7' MF mojo and used to for the same purposes and it did quite nicely. I think in the mojo line up their spinning rods are pretty good, especially the one i mentioned and the 6'8" MXF Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted February 4, 2014 Super User Posted February 4, 2014 There are better options in that price range than the veritas for bottom bait techniques IMO. Look at the falcon bucoo, denali jadewood, ***, daiwa tatula, and even carbonlite. Get a medium for all around stuff. MH is far too heavy for dropshotting. A medium can easily handle texas rigs or shakey heads though. For line, I'd go with 10 lb sufix 832 braid or 6lb copoly. 8 lb fluoro does not handle well on spinning reels that are not 3000 size or bigger. For copoly, I like gamma, but also check out Yozuri hybrid which seems to be very popular here. If you use a decent fluoro, 8lb will handle just fine. I have been using 8lb Sniper and Tatsu on all my 2500 sized spinners with zero problems. I would look at the *** Black or Green, or find a good deal on a Daiwa Tatula. These rods are far nicer than a Veritas and the Duckett. Quote
Mike2841 Posted February 5, 2014 Posted February 5, 2014 Thanks Mike, great info. Veritas is still in the running for sure (love my 7' MH baitcaster) How do you like your setup? I like it a lot, I throw everything ranging from weightless rage craws to super spooks on it, that's why I was saying go with a ml if you plan on throwing mostly lighter lures. I will say that my veritas does play second fiddle to my st croix avid, if you can swing the cash I highly recommend the avid. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted February 5, 2014 Super User Posted February 5, 2014 Another issue I have with the Abu spinning rods, that I thought I'd mention. The aluminum locking nut can be very uncomfortable. It doesn't bother me with the casting rods, but on spinning rods, the nut rides right on the pad below my index finger. After about 6 hours of fishing with my Veritas, my hand was bruised and I could barely move my index finger. Further inspection showed that how I hold it, that aluminum nut rides right on that spot and when you set a hook or fight a fish, it puts quite a bit of pressure on your hand. Everyone holds it different, but that's just something I noticed. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted February 5, 2014 Super User Posted February 5, 2014 Look at the Fenwick Elite Tech Smallmouth 6'10" MF. Right at your $100 limit from fishusa. These are great rods for the money...light, well built, and pretty sensitive. Quote
Super User new2BC4bass Posted February 5, 2014 Super User Posted February 5, 2014 MY computer is messing up big time. I tried to edit the other post as the rod mentioned is my CASTING rod. Sorry about that. However, there are at least spinning 3 rods in that series that should work well for what you want to do. Quote
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