Super User rippin-lips Posted February 1, 2014 Super User Posted February 1, 2014 The new tatula is a very popular reel right now and I thought I'd show you how to upgrade the bearings. For those who aren't familiar with tearing down a reel,this video is for you. Mods if this is in the wrong place or it breaks any kind of rule please let me know. I'm not affiliated with boca bearing company in any way. I just like their products. 2 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted February 1, 2014 Super User Posted February 1, 2014 I've upgraded all of mine as well. Have three with Abec7s and one with Abec5s. Added knob bearings to them as well. They're fantastic reels out of the box, but for $20-$25, a set of bearings sure makes them even that much better. Great tutorial video, should be very helpful. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 1, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 1, 2014 Yeah I added 1 more to each knob and 2 to the worm drive along with the 3 boca os for the spool. Quote
dam0007 Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Rippin-lips - Seen another video of a guy who replaced the plastic bushings on the level wind with bearings. Do you think that would actually make a difference. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 1, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 1, 2014 Yeah I did that and the knobs right away. The daiwa zillion has a bushing also. At $300 I don't see why they can't use a 20 cent bearing on it. Anyhow they say it makes the reel smoother on the retrieve when under load. As for being able to tell by just playing around. Well I can't but I know a bearing will outlast a piece of plastic and that's why I did it. Plus for $5 I got all 4 bearings. So why not replace the plastic parts while I had it apart. Quote
Crankinstein Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 Nice vid! I upgraded the spool bearings on mine a couple weeks ago but havent done the knobs or the worm drive yet. Quote
dam0007 Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 Yeah I did that and the knobs right away. The daiwa zillion has a bushing also. At $300 I don't see why they can't use a 20 cent bearing on it. Anyhow they say it makes the reel smoother on the retrieve when under load. As for being able to tell by just playing around. Well I can't but I know a bearing will outlast a piece of plastic and that's why I did it. Plus for $5 I got all 4 bearings. So why not replace the plastic parts while I had it apart. wait there's no bearings in the knobs?? That's dam near standard nowadays lol. Any chance you could dm me the bearing sizes or part numbers and/or link. Would be much appreciated!. I'm gonna do it to mine. Prob skip on boca bearings for the spool at this time. Gonna try the bocas out in my citica/spinnerbait set up first to see if I can deal with the sound. Quote
CTGalloway21 Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 aren't ABECs normally only useful if you throw heavier lures or lighter lures? Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 2, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 2, 2014 wait there's no bearings in the knobs?? That's dam near standard nowadays lol. Any chance you could dm me the bearing sizes or part numbers and/or link. Would be much appreciated!. I'm gonna do it to mine. Prob skip on boca bearings for the spool at this time. Gonna try the bocas out in my citica/spinnerbait set up first to see if I can deal with the sound. There is 1 bearing and 1 plastic bushing in each knob. So you can replace the bushing with a bearing. Also the worm gear has 2 plastic bushings supporting it. You need a total of 4 bearings that are 4x7x2.5 I picked mine up online for $5.40 shipped Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 2, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 2, 2014 aren't ABECs normally only useful if you throw heavier lures or lighter lures? It makes casting the same distance as before take less effort. Also makes pitching easier with the faster start up of the spool. That can also be said for lighter baits too. Quote
dam0007 Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 There is 1 bearing and 1 plastic bushing in each knob. So you can replace the bushing with a bearing. Also the worm gear has 2 plastic bushings supporting it. You need a total of 4 bearings that are 4x7x2.5 I picked mine up online for $5.40 shipped Thanks bro! Quote
Loop_Dad Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I've upgraded all of mine as well. Have three with Abec7s and one with Abec5s. Added knob bearings to them as well. They're fantastic reels out of the box, but for $20-$25, a set of bearings sure makes them even that much better. Great tutorial video, should be very helpful. I've never upgraded bearings before, but thinking about trying on my Tatula. Where do I find a $20 set that performs? Thanks! ripplin_lips, nice video! You are skilled. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 16, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 16, 2014 I've never upgraded bearings before, but thinking about trying on my Tatula. Where do I find a $20 set that performs? Thanks! ripplin_lips, nice video! You are skilled. Contact DVT as he offers 10% off for BR members. The boca os abec 7'a normally run about $25. They also offer an abec 5 which would be nice too. I would flush and lube your stock bearings first. It makes a huge improvement. The upgraded bearings for me is just more of a tinkering thing. Also thank you for the kind words. Quote
Loop_Dad Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Contact DVT as he offers 10% off for BR members. The boca os abec 7'a normally run about $25. They also offer an abec 5 which would be nice too. I would flush and lube your stock bearings first. It makes a huge improvement. The upgraded bearings for me is just more of a tinkering thing. Also thank you for the kind words. Thanks, will contact them. My Tatula's been flushed and oiled already before I even spooled it with line. I am just curious about those upgraded bearings that people talk about. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 16, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 16, 2014 Thanks, will contact them. My Tatula's been flushed and oiled already before I even spooled it with line. I am just curious about those upgraded bearings that people talk about. It makes casting the same distance a bit easier. It improves pitching a bait. The better bearings allow for quicker startup on the pitch. Unless you have superb thumb control you aren't going to be floored by the results. Quote
AQUA VELVA Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 What is the correct way to flush bearings? Quote
Loop_Dad Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I've noticed that pitching is already pretty good with Tatula. With upgraded bearing, this might become my pitching machine. I'll do it scientifically. Record the distance of say 20 pitches before and after to see if I can spy obvious difference there. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 16, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 16, 2014 What is the correct way to flush bearings?There's a few ways to do it. Soak in acetone,soak in hot water and degreaser like simple green,brake cleaner from a parts store. I use brake cleaner because I always have it around the garage and it just works very well for me. Quote
Super User QUAKEnSHAKE Posted February 16, 2014 Super User Posted February 16, 2014 Yeah I added 1 more to each knob and 2 to the worm drive along with the 3 boca os for the spool. 3 os7's for the spool??? Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted February 16, 2014 Super User Posted February 16, 2014 3 os7's for the spool??? There's technically 3 bearings along the spool shaft. 1 in the non-handle sideplate, one under the cast control knob, and another on the pinion. Quote
dam0007 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 There is 1 bearing and 1 plastic bushing in each knob. So you can replace the bushing with a bearing. Also the worm gear has 2 plastic bushings supporting it. You need a total of 4 bearings that are 4x7x2.5 I picked mine up online for $5.40 shipped placing order tonight... What kind of bearings did you do, regular stainless, abec 5's, 7's? Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 16, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 16, 2014 placing order tonight... What kind of bearings did you do, regular stainless, abec 5's, 7's? I just went with the cheapest I could find. They were from a place that's sells bearings for rc cars. I paid less the $6 for the 4 bearings. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted February 16, 2014 Author Super User Posted February 16, 2014 3 os7's for the spool??? Yeah 3 in total. Quote
dam0007 Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 I just went with the cheapest I could find. They were from a place that's sells bearings for rc cars. I paid less the $6 for the 4 bearings. I'm gonna replace the existing ones with what I replace the bushings with in handles so they match. Then the worm gear ones the same. So 6 each real plus ordering more for my curados Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted February 16, 2014 Super User Posted February 16, 2014 Does the cast control one need to be os7 or can it be say abec5SS and the other two os7 What Im getting at are all 3 in contact during cast or just the side and pinion? The one under the cast control spins when the spool is spinning, not sure about the pinion. I think the bearing in the pinion only comes in contact when the reel is under load. Quote
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