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Has anyone noticed a significant difference in bites when throwing just straight hi-vis yellow or red braid compared to moss green in real heavy cover or dirty water? I use a leader in clear water or less heavy cover. So I'm just curious for when I dont have a leader.

 

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You'll be fine. You can always color the first 3 feet of your line to lure with black magic marker. Or green for that matter.

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You'll be fine. You can always color the first 3 feet of your line to lure with black magic marker. Or green for that matter.

 

Well I wonder about the new Power Pro Zero Impact then. its got that 32" section of black between each 20ft section of whatever color. The black section is supposedly "50% stronger" than the colored section to counter the reduction in line strength from the knot.

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That product is completely unnecessary in my opinion and sounds more like a marketing ploy. Regular Power Pro of any color choices is completely fine and strong enough to hold any fish in freshwater.  Tying good knots is the key to braid strength.  I use a palomar on everything except flipping I snell my hooks. You'll never break the line mid section unless it's on an abrasive surface like rocks/wood or you knicked it in the course of fishing. 

 

 Sufix 832 braid is my favorite and I use both brands I've mentioned. If you're really intimidated by color, just tie a fluoro leader on.  Color is about confidence and human visual aid.  If bass seeing lines/wires was an issue, why are A-rigs and big spinner baits so productive?

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Well I wonder about the new Power Pro Zero Impact then. its got that 32" section of black between each 20ft section of whatever color. The black section is supposedly "50% stronger" than the colored section to counter the reduction in line strength from the knot.

How strong do you need it?  PP and most major brands break a good 40-50% higher than the label.  If using 20# PP in essence you are fishing with at least 30# line, is that not strong enough for a bass.  A knot is the last thing to worry about, tie it correctly use your drag and forget about it.  If you are concerned about anything check for weak spots in the line.  Mark is right, all hype and totally unneeded.  

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I dont disagree at all. It seems like a marketing ploy for sure.  I've always had good experiences with power pro. Leaders make me nervous due to having a knot as a possible weakpoint, especially fishing in really heavy cover or mats. I know I could just do heavy flouro but I like the sensitivity of braid. But I know flipping/pitching is geared to going after the reaction bite so I suppose line visibility doesnt really matter as much anyway.

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I dont disagree at all. It seems like a marketing ploy for sure.  I've always had good experiences with power pro. Leaders make me nervous due to having a knot as a possible weakpoint, especially fishing in really heavy cover or mats. I know I could just do heavy flouro but I like the sensitivity of braid. But I know flipping/pitching is geared to going after the reaction bite so I suppose line visibility doesnt really matter as much anyway.

You just answered yourself my man.  If you're pitching/flipping go straight braid with low vis, or if you use Hi-Vis color in the braid like I said.  I'm switching to hi-vis to see better line bouncing. You don't want to be using a leader when your flipping in slop, no point really.  I fish the same kind of waters as you.

I only suggested a leader if you're out in the open t-riggin or dead sticking a worm where the bass half a half hour to decided if they want to eat.  Really the only reason I ever use a leader is if I'm by rock or wood, not for visibility. 

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Thanks for the advice. Now I just need to decide if I want yellow or red :crazy:

 

If you want higher visibility, go with yellow or white. Red is actually one of the tougher colors to see in many light and wave conditions. Kind of surprised me when I first threw it. About equal to green in that regard.

 

-T9

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If you want higher visibility, go with yellow or white. Red is actually one of the tougher colors to see in many light and wave conditions. Kind of surprised me when I first threw it. About equal to green in that regard.

 

-T9

 

I feel like that makes a lot of sense about the red. Depending on light conditions and water color, I can see red not really being "Hi-vis". Yellow it is!

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I've been using hi-vis yellow. The color fades somewhat after using for a while. I wonder if white pops out better or color lasts longer? If anyone has experience comparing between yellow and white, I'd be interested to hear.

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I've been using hi-vis yellow. The color fades somewhat after using for a while. I wonder if white pops out better or color lasts longer? If anyone has experience comparing between yellow and white, I'd be interested to hear.

I'd love to know too.

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No experience using white Power Pro, as it isn't as readily available as green, then yellow.

 

Having used green, red, and yellow, the latter is my choice based on visibility.

 

I've got it on all my reels, spinning and BC, in 10 (spinning), and 20 (BC) pound test.

 

Yellow will fade (as will all), but I've taken to tying my braid to a tree or fence, walking the rest off, and respooling it from the "used" side on first.

 

Like a brand new line.

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I know offshore and inshore, Shimano has done studies that Red PP gets bit more than any other color. Bantam1 even backs this study up.

Not sure about freshwater, but seems it would be the same. Fishing mystery I guess.

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I know offshore and inshore, Shimano has done studies that Red PP gets bit more than any other color. Bantam1 even backs this study up.

Not sure about freshwater, but seems it would be the same. Fishing mystery I guess.

I don't agree or disagree.  My findings are this, if the bite is on line color or even using F/C doesn't make a difference.  When the bite is off everyone seems to struggle pretty much the same, some always catches the odd fish,  but have no idea of what lines are being used.  I have never used red.

 

I use PP green for both salt and fresh, daytime and night time, I don't specifically line watch.

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I have 5# white Power Pro on my ultralight rod, it's easy to see and seems to me to be a little more manageable straight out of the box than green. Now I can tell you it will stain, I've been fishing this line going on two years now and it's a light brown color now that won't "wash off" in cleaner water. I'll try to get a picture of it tomorrow.

I really like the white line though and plan to pick up more in higher pound tests.

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I was slow rolling spinner baits with it yesterday and caught 9 out of 12 fish with the yellow in less than 1hr. Im not doing much worm and jig fishing with it to be honest. Topwater, swimbait and spinner baits mainly and no probs.

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This is an extreme situation, but my kayak fishing trip yesterday reinforced my choice to go with yellow PowerPro Super 8 Slick braid.

 

Both of my spinning rods have the yellow braid with 6# or 10# fluoro leaders. I was fishing in a creek mid day. I cast a wacky finesse worm out and was slowly working it back like I normally do. For reasons I don't recall, I set down that rod and decided to throw a wacky senko with my other rod. I never do this; I must have seen a school swim by. 

 

Bad cast and my senko wraps around a high tree branch. As I'm fighting to pull up anchor to go un-snag, I see out of the corner of my eye the yellow braid of my finesse worm swim off. Grabbed the rod and pulled in a fish.

 

Determined to see if this do-nothing method would work again, I push back to my original spot. I cast out the same finesse worm, set my rod down, and get to work retying the leader on my senko setup while keeping an eye on the yellow braid. I catch four more fish this way, each time keyed by the braid taking off.

 

Again, this was a one-time experiment, and I don't expect to repeat it. But the high-viz yellow PP braid continues to prove its worth.

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