CTGalloway21 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 How come on Amazon and Ebay the Tatula is selling for around $100 brand new but MSRP is around $140 and $150. Most other reel companies are a little bit closer to MSRP than that. Is their not good resale value on Daiwas? Quote
Trey Harpel Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 I've got a 10+ year old daiwa Ize I'll sell you 650$...pretty good resale value.. LOL Prob because the talus has been hot as of late.. Quote
Smallmouth Hunter Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 This is a question I have been asking myself lately, and I just can't figure out.. I wish other companies reels/rods could be found for 20-40% off on the auction site and other sites. I was looking for a ***, and couldn't find a site that sold them less for $99.. I was hoping I could at least find $70 somewhere. Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted January 29, 2014 Super User Posted January 29, 2014 I don't think that's too out of line. A lot of Quantum, Pflueger, Lews, Shimano, etc. are all priced $40-$50 below retail on Ebay. I don't know if the Tatula has a good resale or not, because very few people sell them after they get their hands on them. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted January 29, 2014 Super User Posted January 29, 2014 MSRP = manufacturers suggested retail price It doesn't mean it's set in stone. Ask $150 and sell 100 reels or ask $100 and sell 400 reels. Quote
Cgrinder Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 This is a question I have been asking myself lately, and I just can't figure out.. I wish other companies reels/rods could be found for 20-40% off on the auction site and other sites. I was looking for a ***, and couldn't find a site that sold them less for $99.. I was hoping I could at least find $70 somewhere. Tackle Warehouse has sales throughout the year. I got my *** there for $80-ish shipped last Memorial Day. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted January 29, 2014 Super User Posted January 29, 2014 Most of the time manufacturers set the retail price and dealers are required to sell products at that price. That's why when TW has a sale certain brands are excluded. I don't know what the penalty is for breaking that agreement with the manufacturer but the people on Ebay and Amazon clearly don't care. Quote
jimjonesey Posted February 1, 2014 Posted February 1, 2014 A lot of times retailers run sales that exclude certain brands but have notes that say call for deals we cannot advertise.. sometimes it is in you benefit to make the phone call i have lucked out a couple times with some awesome customer service people. The Tatulas are priced cheaper around in part because of their proposed high margins. One of the reps was talking about it in one of their preview videos leading up its release. It seems like it is working out well for them and the end user because if they are making more money on high sales numbers and the retailers are still making somewhat of a profit giving customers a sale. I believe it is called marginal utility theory if my college econ is still embedded in my head somewhere lol. Quote
Super User Hooligan Posted February 1, 2014 Super User Posted February 1, 2014 There's a difference in MSRP and MAP. Shimano and Daiwa, as well as most other fishing industry companies, do not have MSRP, they technically are defined as a minimum advertised price. In doing so, the dealer is also subject to the clause that, should they sell reels or equipment under MSRP or MAP, such as the case may be, they are in violation of that dealer agreement. There are instances in which there are special considerations made with some retailers, but it's a rare thing. The reason you tend to see it occuring on Fleabay and Amazon is that those are not dealers. They are people that have bought them through a wholesale account, and are turning volume to turn a buck. In most cases, too, it tends to be a one shot deal. Sometimes, it is a wholesale outfit blowing through inventory, or it is a retailer selling then placing the order with a wholesaler. There are a variety of reasons that this occurs and a variety of situations that it can happen with. Most of those, as well, have really been curtailed by the fact that few wholesale accounts are allowed access to entire product lines. It's become more and more rare to see upper mid-range reels through these companies. *** is rare to see because they don't have wholesale accounts. They are the wholesaler to the retailer; there generally is not enough mark-up for another hand in the mix, if you will. Lastly, as well, some of these reels may not be covered by warranty. If it doesn't come from an authorized retailer- you're out. 2 Quote
bootytrain Posted February 2, 2014 Posted February 2, 2014 All the NIB Shimano's I see on the Bay are at msrp :-( Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted February 2, 2014 Super User Posted February 2, 2014 There is no problem with the Daiwa Tatula's other then I can't keep them on the shelf. You don't have to support those sites to get a good price on gear. I sell the tatula all day everyday at about 20% off MSRP. I can't advertise that but if you add it to your cart you will see a discount. Like Hooligan said many of the sellers on those sites are not authorized dealers or are stolen items. There is a reason you don't see advertised discounts on a lot of gear. As mentioned already in this thread, It's called MAP pricing. I have explained this several times on BR but if you missed those posts and don't know what it is go to this link http://www.beatthebigboxboys.com/whatismap/ and read about what it is. Then maybe you will understand pricing. Ron Great explanation Ron - thanks for posting the link. Quote
Nick49 Posted February 3, 2014 Posted February 3, 2014 Purchased a left hander on ebay (new, in box) a few days ago for $106.99, including shipping. Quote
Super User Montanaro Posted February 3, 2014 Super User Posted February 3, 2014 I really want one for my crankbait rod, but need to sell my lews first. Can't justify 2 reel purchases so close together otherwise Quote
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