Stlbob Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 My wifes brother was in town over the holidays and asked me what i wanted for my BDay..its right at Christmas so most times they give me something from under the tree..lol...I told him i planned on fishing a lot this year... SO he went out to Cabelas without talking to me first and bought a Diawa Steez...I didnt ask for it,hell i didnt even know something like this was out there.I wont take it back.If i did and he found out he would be crushed. So what makes it worth this kind of money,and hell i dont have high end rod,i mean they are good rods..
bootytrain Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Are you talking about the baitcaster or spinning reel?
bass1980 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 All I want to know is.... Does your wife have a sister? I would like to be his brother in law too. 15
Avaitor63 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 That must be the best reel in the world.It must be handcrafted,special metals and gears.It''s got to be very light.
bootytrain Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 The spinning reel Steez IMO is not worth the money, they are trying to charge more money than a Stella(magnesium) for a reel that is all Zaion? The baitcaster gets mixed reviews, guys that love them are fierce about it, then there are guys who had them and didn't like them or didn't think they were worth retail. Granted they started out at $450 and now they jacked the price up to $600 for a reel that's has no improvements over the original, only a longer handle and different colored accents. For $600 at least make both sideplates magnesium. Personally if I were you Id return it and shell out $50 and get a Calais DC 1
Super User tomustang Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 Last time I checked cabelas, the steez was on clearance
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 What makes a reel worth $600 or more is the customer base that's willing to spend the money. Factoring in the R & D, materials being used, shipping, advertising, etc, I would be very surprised that a $600 reel would cost 10 times more to manufacture than a $60 reel. Only the user can answer if it's worth it to them. If I were fishing offshore 5-6 days a week in my 200k yellowfin, I'd have nothing but Penn torques, stellas or saltigas, but that isn't the case for me..lol.
Super User *Hootie Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 What makes a reel worth $600.00?....Uhh...nothing. Seriously, in my opinion, the only thing that makes it worth it, is the consumers willingness to pay it. Not "narry another thing"!! Hootie 4
Super User Montanaro Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 It catches more fish 1
fishingman88 Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 I personally would exchange the Steez for whatever reel you are most comfortable with and have used quite a bit. In fact, you could get multiple setups with that kind of money. However, understanding that it is a gift, I would also give it a shot and see if you like it. I personally don't think the Steez is anything special especially for the $$$, but it isn't a bad reel by any means. I will admit that I have spent over $600+ on a single reel before (Shimano Stella SW series and Van Staals) only because I know they are tried and true in jigging (Stella) and surf fishing ( Van Staals). Both reels have undergone abuse that most reels would have had a higher potential to fail. I will agree that you should exchange the Steez for a Calais DC though That DC whine is soo addicting.
Ima Bass Ninja Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Refinement, more expensive components, tolerances, QC, R&D and customer demand are all factors for high price tags on any consumer item. The steez is a great reel and once you fish it side by side with a less expensive reel you will probably notice a difference. Is that difference worth the extra money is a personal decision. It's enthusiasts tackle. Just like people that spend major money on sport,muscle cars. You sir now own the Lamborghini of bass fishing! Enjoy! 3
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 Now you need the rod to compliment the reel! 2
Super User *Hootie Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 Now you need the rod to compliment the reel! That's what I was thinking. You already have the reel. Might as well grab the NRX of your choice and ENJOY!!! Hootie
shootermcbob Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Corny, but the fact that your brother-in-law thinks so highly of you to spend roughly 600 dollars on what he was probably told was the best reel on the market (assuming he doesn't know fishing and either asked or was told which was the "best" reel) ...to me, THAT makes it worth 600 bucks. I say keep it, keep a reel cover on it at all times when not fishing, and enjoy it. Plus, now you have a splendid opportunity to go out and purchase a high end rod to match! 8
Super User K_Mac Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 Stlbob welcome to the forum from another member of Cardinal Nation! Your BIL obviously has plenty of cash, though he really doesn't seem to have a great deal of wisdom. He may be a very good, generous, and well meaning guy but buying anything as high end as the Steez for someone without knowing their needs and wants is a mistake IMO. For the money paid for the reel you could have a very good rod and reel combo that will last even a serious fisherman a life time. With that said I would not risk offending him, so as others have said buy yourself a high end rod to match and enjoy! The only trouble with that is over time you will find there really is a difference in high end gear and probably will want to upgrade everything you have...good luck.
Stlbob Posted January 26, 2014 Author Posted January 26, 2014 lmao see road warrior and others..i feel guilty putting it on a 75 dollar rod...he had the best intentions.As someone said i can see him going in and asking for the best reel he can buy.Just out of pure luck he got the right reel ( spinning vs baitcasting ).I dont have the money to get the reel the rod it deserves. Im going to start looking on Craigslist and see if i can find a good rod. .my wife of 30 years told me if i take it back and he were to find out he would be hurt.He is a great brother in law ( and NO not just for the reel..lol) .He and I are very close.... Im going to fish the dang thing..i really would feel awful if he were to come back and ask to see what rod i put it on...i am trying to figure out where to put my burrito at so it can heat it up,its gotta' do more than just hold line...lol..
Super User Tywithay Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 What makes the reel so expensive is the quality of materials and craftsmanship. Steez can be a bit of a wild child for people that don't have a good thumb. The spool is fast. Because of that, it's very versatile. You can cast light baits, or heavier baits. If you want a good rod that looks good and performs outside of its price range, check out the Tatula rods.
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 Great rod at a modest price: http://www.bassresource.com/fishing_lures/pinnacle-perfecta-optimus-review.html
baluga Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Congrats on your first high end reel. But I do have to warn you, there's no going back now. 3
Super User smalljaw67 Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 Refinement, more expensive components, tolerances, QC, R&D and customer demand are all factors for high price tags on any consumer item. The steez is a great reel and once you fish it side by side with a less expensive reel you will probably notice a difference. Is that difference worth the extra money is a personal decision. It's enthusiasts tackle. Just like people that spend major money on sport,muscle cars. You sir now own the Lamborghini of bass fishing! Enjoy! Ima Bass Ninja sums it up perfectly!!!! To put enthusiast reels in perspective you have to look at how few are sold, Shakespear sells more ugly sticks in 1 month than Daiwa sells Steez reels in 1 year, the demographic is less than 1% of the fishing population. Enthusiast level rods and reels are all about refinement, high end material and components and precise tolerances manufactured by skilled workers in Japan and those workers get paid very well, that is why the high price tag. I talked to a pro about these things and what I was told that yes, these expensive Japanese reels and rods and expertly built and worth every penny if you are into the tackle side of it but they are precise instruments, they don't take much abuse, in fact dropping them on a boat 4 or 5 times in a tournament is going to have an effect because the tolerances are so tight but they aren't made to be work horse reels, they are made to be enjoyed by those who respect the tackle as much as the sport itself. Even when I was able to afford high end reels I always stuck to work horse reels in the $120-$250 range and I have a couple that were more expensive and the biggest difference is the refinement, anglers who never fished with reels in the $400 dollar range don't know how smooth manufacturers can make a reel, try using a Chronarch and you think it doesn't get any better and then you use a Core and you realize it just went to a new level and the same with Daiwa, The Advantage was smooth, the Zillion was even better and the type R was a little better and then the Steez came out and the refinement went up another notch. Fish with the Steez and enjoy it, enjoy the fact that you have a brother-in-law that thinks so much of you he drops some serious coin on a piece of equipment for you to use for your past time, that says a lot. Be warned, once you fish with that reel, you'll know how good it is but you really understand when you put it down and pick up a Revo or Lews or the Curado, all really good reels but not in the same class, some guys can't go back after using enthusiast level stuff and end up getting more reels and rods so they don't have to pick up another work horse reel so be careful of the dark side of it. 4
John G Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 You have a very nice brother in law! Enjoy the reel!
John G Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Congrats on your first high end reel. But I do have to warn you, there's no going back now. No truer words have ever been spoken! 2
thehooligan Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Thats an awesome present !! Like others said, find a nice rod, tatula would be a good choice and cherish it.
Ima Bass Ninja Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 Ima Bass Ninja sums it up perfectly!!!! To put enthusiast reels in perspective you have to look at how few are sold, Shakespear sells more ugly sticks in 1 month than Daiwa sells Steez reels in 1 year, the demographic is less than 1% of the fishing population. Enthusiast level rods and reels are all about refinement, high end material and components and precise tolerances manufactured by skilled workers in Japan and those workers get paid very well, that is why the high price tag. I talked to a pro about these things and what I was told that yes, these expensive Japanese reels and rods and expertly built and worth every penny if you are into the tackle side of it but they are precise instruments, they don't take much abuse, in fact dropping them on a boat 4 or 5 times in a tournament is going to have an effect because the tolerances are so tight but they aren't made to be work horse reels, they are made to be enjoyed by those who respect the tackle as much as the sport itself. Even when I was able to afford high end reels I always stuck to work horse reels in the $120-$250 range and I have a couple that were more expensive and the biggest difference is the refinement, anglers who never fished with reels in the $400 dollar range don't know how smooth manufacturers can make a reel, try using a Chronarch and you think it doesn't get any better and then you use a Core and you realize it just went to a new level and the same with Daiwa, The Advantage was smooth, the Zillion was even better and the type R was a little better and then the Steez came out and the refinement went up another notch. Fish with the Steez and enjoy it, enjoy the fact that you have a brother-in-law that thinks so much of you he drops some serious coin on a piece of equipment for you to use for your past time, that says a lot. Be warned, once you fish with that reel, you'll know how good it is but you really understand when you put it down and pick up a Revo or Lews or the Curado, all really good reels but not in the same class, some guys can't go back after using enthusiast level stuff and end up getting more reels and rods so they don't have to pick up another work horse reel so be careful of the dark side of it. Lots of truth in this post. Especially the part about going back. Heres my story. I was always a big fan for the pure fishing line. I bought several reels of same design/ different company and was complete happy....or so I thought. Then I went to Japan and had a friend by me a t3mx for my bday. Didn't seems like anything special at the time but when I got out on the water I found myself using this reel more than the others. Then I got a alphas finesse and now am even more impressed with the higher end stuff. I will not be buying 300-400 reels but it has made me come off my $100 only price tag for reels. I usually try to find the higher end stuff on sale and then I feel complete.
Dr. Watson Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 lmao see road warrior and others..i feel guilty putting it on a 75 dollar rod...he had the best intentions.As someone said i can see him going in and asking for the best reel he can buy.Just out of pure luck he got the right reel ( spinning vs baitcasting ).I dont have the money to get the reel the rod it deserves. Im going to start looking on Craigslist and see if i can find a good rod. .my wife of 30 years told me if i take it back and he were to find out he would be hurt.He is a great brother in law ( and NO not just for the reel..lol) .He and I are very close.... Im going to fish the dang thing..i really would feel awful if he were to come back and ask to see what rod i put it on...i am trying to figure out where to put my burrito at so it can heat it up,its gotta' do more than just hold line...lol.. I'd look at the Fishing Flea Market on here first, you can pick up some great deals and usually the other members are looking to help each other out. Sounds like a great B-Day gift, I'm sure you'll like it more when you get it out on the water.
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