jonnysmith Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 A buddy of mine called me & told me he spent the day up at flamingo-everglades national park,he fished both salt & fresh water 2day.since 6am,using only a silver spoon & said he did awesome! even texted me pixs..trout,bass,snook,red fish..does any 1 in here use spoons? and has it been productive for you?? Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 Why am I not surprised.  Especially in shallow saltwater conditions the 2 most used lures I ever see being used, including myself, are spoons and bucktail jigs.  Only real reason I use other items is for the sake of variety, they don't catch any more fish.  The only caveat is in regards to a few species where other lures are usually more productive, a case in point is tarpon.  Never caught one on a spoon, but many caught on bucktails.  The bucktail absolutely rules as the #1 producer for just about all inshore fish, I use the same ones for bass and peacocks too. I have on hand at all times 20-40 bucktail jigs and maybe 20 or so spoons.  A redfish key spoon  by Wahoo is one of my favorites for bass. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 Tell me how you fish a spoon. I can't seem to get more than a few casts before that sucker is gone. Maybe Tennessee rocks are just hungrier than others! 3 Quote
Brian6428 Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 Tell me how you fish a spoon. I can't seem to get more than a few casts before that sucker is gone. Maybe Tennessee rocks are just hungrier than others! This is what I have always wanted to know. The few times I have fished spoons they got stuck so much I just couldn't fish them! Quote
jonnysmith Posted January 18, 2014 Author Posted January 18, 2014 ive always used spoons in clean/clear/deep waters & they work outstanding!!,where its shallow or lots of vegetation,i dont think they would work well..i looked up how & where to use spoons on youtube.com and there tons of videos on this subject..i remember my grand dad he was a commercial fishermen all his life,him telling me (i was 8yrs old).he showed me a silver spoon & said when u fish with 1 of these its fish i the bucket..i havnt used them in a while ( my fault) but i do recall spoons being super productive 4 me in the pasted,ever since i was a lil boy. Quote
Super User MCS Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 Aqua dream....there are different kinds of spoons. The ones I seen and used for inshore aren't the same as the spoons that are used for bass. The bass ones seem heavier, different shape and have trebles typically but havent really seen many speciffically for bass...The aqua dream and bomber are weedless and fished in grass and they even have small size for pin fish. The gold spoons I typically fish are Johnson or gator spoon with a little curltail grub. Some come with a swivel or eye ring and swivel. Straight retrieve most times, figure out the pace. Or lift and lower sometimes a sweep. C A Richardson has some good vids on spoons, I recall one video using spoons in La. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 I wasn't thinking about Johnson Silver Spoons, my question is about traditional spoons or more specifically, LFT spoons. I also have some customs that were killer for the pros on Kentucky Lake a few years ago. I have tried these in a variety of situations, but when fishing them deep, they're gonners! Quote
Super User MCS Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 Yeah those are the ones I don't know much on seen on bass master articles and haven't used. They use spoons like that for kings and replace the treble for a single hook. The ones made for redfish have a single hook built to the spoon those suckers are hard to hang up. Quote
GLADES Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 My dad, who was a very good bass fisherman, used to use the johnson spoon rigged with Uncle Josh pork rinds in green/white frog color. I watch him catch many large DD bass.. It was a bait that would catch quality over quantity. Being a kid at the time, I was always getting snagged when I tried to use them. Heavy spoon, with a big chunk of pork would sink quickly. Out of frustration(and lacking experience), Mann's (golly whompers) black worms became my go-to bait. Much easier and in lake okeechobee or kissimee, and more productive in terms of numbers. Â With so many plastics options available now, I don't use them anymore except in the ocean. Swim baits (EZ's/frogs) are the ticket for me. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 Tell me how you fish a spoon. I can't seem to get more than a few casts before that sucker is gone. Maybe Tennessee rocks are just hungrier than others!  If you move to rock-free central Florida, you can throw the same spoon all year long  Roger Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 I don't snag spoons for bass because I don't fish them around rocks, I use bottom baits for that kind of fishing. Â I don't use anything much heavier than 1/4 oz spoons for bass. Â I use heavier spoons, more different ways to fish them, and more varieties of them in saltwater. Quote
Dyerbassman Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 I have used simple casting spoons in open water in the past and caught many bass. Could have been by accident! I would cast it out as far as possible and reel it back like a spinnerbait. But they are definitely not rock and weed friendly! Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 19, 2014 Super User Posted January 19, 2014 I have used simple casting spoons in open water in the past and caught many bass. Could have been by accident! I would cast it out as far as possible and reel it back like a spinnerbait. But they are definitely not rock and weed friendly! Â Not weed-friendly?? The 'Johnson Silver Minnow' rivals the most weedless lure in my tackle box. Â Roger Quote
OkeechobeeAngler Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Rolo he is referring to spoons with trebles. Quote
bocabasser Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 If you ask any "old school" lake okeechobee guys, they will all tell you that a gold johnson spoon with a white grub trailer is one of their "go to" baits. 2 weeks ago I pulled one out because we were fishing pencil grass on the south end, and I absolutely stroked them on the spoon. I would make super long casts and slowly retrieve it back to the boat letting it fall in any open hole i swam it over. It is a weedless bait that flutters as you slow roll it. An "old school" fella that I know swears by them Quote
Super User Nitrofreak Posted January 21, 2014 Super User Posted January 21, 2014  I use flutter spoons and jigging spoons a lot here in Va. some of the best baits by far for winter and summer patterns , spoons are so versatile that you can practically fish them anywhere .  The grass spoon or the weedless spoon on the left is one I really like in the fall or on those really bright sunny days when they are buried deep in the grass , it can be used for rocky areas as well , it's most effective when worked tightly along the edge of the thick grass and on rocks all you do is get it to the bottom , raise your rod tip just enough to make the spoon stand straight up so that the spoon is just barely dragging on the rocks , I do like the printed ones , this has both crappie and perch colors for a little extra flash in some of the more stained water periods .  The jigging spoons are great too , the best way I have found to fish these is just to get it to the bottom , stand it up and simply shake it with a nervous twitch , but my favorite has to be the big flutter spoon , want to find some fish on a really tough day , this one of my favorite go to baits , that is if you can make it down past the stripers of course LOL !! , this bait usually attracts the attention of just about any fish in the lake , catfish included , it's deadly when you use them on clam shell/pea gravel covered areas , but works most anywhere the bass are holding . 1 Quote
gar-tracker Posted January 21, 2014 Posted January 21, 2014 In Florida waters a spoon can be deadly, like jigs theres times when they want them exclusively and wont touch Big Ezs and Skinny Dippers  Iv won 2 tournaments on spoons with sacks over 25lbs one of those tournaments I had a bass blow up on that come out of the water and it was the biggest bass my partner and myself have seen on Big O. We already had 2 six's and a seven.   The trick is to have it coming towards you as its landing like a buzz bait, once it sinks forget it. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 21, 2014 Super User Posted January 21, 2014 Thanks, you guys answered my question. No point in fishing a flutter spoon around here. Quote
jonnysmith Posted January 22, 2014 Author Posted January 22, 2014 i was out on my atv in the everglades and i wanted 2 travel lite.so i only took a lite rod & 3 silver spoons..i worked the canal up/down for 1 hour,i nailed 8 bass smallest 8in, largest 15inches..i 4got how well those spoons work.. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 22, 2014 Super User Posted January 22, 2014 Thanks, you guys answered my question. No point in fishing a flutter spoon around here. My own personal take, save the spoons for saltwater. Â Sure I catch bass on spoons, but not near as well as other baits, spoons are just a little variety and more of a challenge IMO. I'm not a jig or senko fisherman, but I fished a senko for the first time this year the other day, caught 2 at about 25" each, didn't fish for more than 30 minutes. Â I'll use up the pack, then it's back to the lures I have more fun with. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 A little update about spoons.  Had a spoon in the trunk of my car I hadn't used in a year or 2 for bass fishing, on  whim I put it in pocket yesterday.  Caught a few bass using an xrap, then a storm wild eyed shad, then decided to put this spoon on.  Not using this style spoon in quite some time it took a few moments to remember how I used to fish it.  A saltwater spoon called a Clark spoon, single hook much like a J spoon, the hook still razor sharp and it's replaceable via a set screw.  Like the J-spoon it's pretty weedless despite no weed guard.  Fished from a hi banked canal I angled it back towards the shore, fishing it just sub surface, with a slowish retrieve as not to bounce the lure on top of the water and let the spoon work.  Thinking a bit outside the box, at times I reeled the lure in with my finger on the line, giving a different action on the spoon.........fished loved it. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 27, 2014 Super User Posted January 27, 2014 A saltwater spoon called a Clark spoon, single hook much like a J spoon, the hook still razor sharp and it's replaceable via a set screw. Â Like the J-spoon it's pretty weedless despite no weed guard. Â Sir Snook, I'm sure you'll agree that the exposed single hook on a Clark Spoon (designed for tuna in 'open water') is not as weedless as the guarded single hook on a Johnson Silver Minnow (designed for 'weedy cover' in freshwater). Moving lower on the snagless scale are spoons with an exposed treble hook, which may get by in rocky cover, but can be a horror show in weedy & woody cover. Â Roger Quote
Super User Wayne P. Posted January 27, 2014 Super User Posted January 27, 2014 Thanks, you guys answered my question. No point in fishing a flutter spoon around here. Â Â The flutter spoons are sort of popular at a little pond called Lake Fork. it will be "the thing" there in about 4 1/2- 5 months. Been there, done that. Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted January 27, 2014 Super User Posted January 27, 2014 Sir Snook, I'm sure you'll agree that the exposed single hook on a Clark Spoon (designed for tuna in 'open water') is not as weedless as the guarded single hook on a Johnson Silver Minnow (designed for 'weedy cover' in freshwater). Moving lower on the snagless scale are spoons with an exposed treble hook, which may get by in rocky cover, but can be a horror show in weedy & woody cover. Â Roger I agree...........everyday here isn't the same, some days that spoon works fine other days no, yesterday wasn't near as good as Saturday with it, too much floating grass, I do prefer the sharper hook of the Clark. Â You are quite right about the intended use of that spoon, down here they are Spanish Mackerel killers, especially when used with a rattling bobber. Â That being said I haven't met too many lures I couldn't use in both salt and freshwater. Quote
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