craww Posted January 17, 2014 Posted January 17, 2014 Your missing the point....By informing the OP that there is a great deal of grey area and marketing involved with what an actual copolymer is he has more options available. Regardless of what the box says or magazine ads state every nylon line or mono has multiple resins to give it specific properties. I understand there are nylon lines with minute amounts of flouro called copolymers, but there are also several straight up nylon lines called coploys. There are lines called mono and copolys that fish exactly the same, because they are the same thing chemically. Quote
Super User K_Mac Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 Craww the differences in formulation of mono/copolymer lines really makes little difference to me. For many years I used traditional mono line. When I began to experiment with copolymers I found there are huge differences in how they fish. Since then I have used a more traditional mono (Trilene Big Game) a few times. I have also used YZ Hybrid, Gamma, and CXX copolys and find any of these superior to traditional mono for my purposes. Now, for me to say I like copolys better than mono may be laughable to you, but based on my testing and long term use the above copolys perform better than any traditional mono I've ever used. You argue that it is just semantics and marketing. My question is: What line labeled mono has the same fishing characteristics as the above copolys? Quote
daiwaguy Posted January 18, 2014 Posted January 18, 2014 I have a question here too. Is it buoyant like Mono or does it sink like Fluoro? Does it still have enough stretch for such things as lipless and other cranks? Is it resistant enough for jigs in brush and rip rap? If the answer to these questions is yes would you agree it is the most fantastic creation in the line world in a long time? I have considered trying it but I have such presentation specific set ups that certain lines are used for certain techniques, but if I could save a lot of money on line by using this for multiple presentations then why wouldn't I? That is all. 1 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted January 18, 2014 Super User Posted January 18, 2014 Yo-Zuri Hybrid or P-Line can be used for EVERY application. They are both inexpensive, so give them a try and throw them away if you don't like them. My first copolymer was P-Line, but I find Yo-Zuri more manageable. Quote
gitzitfish Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 I've used ALOT of different lines over the years. For many years my main line was Berkley Big Game in 10, 12, and 15 pound tests. Based on this forum and several others I gave YoZuri Hybrid a shot. I really like it! I use it in 10 and 12 for moving baits on baitcasters and 6 on my spinning setups. It works GREAT on spinning outfit. I use Sunline fluoro for contact baits. YZH has been really good to me. I tried the YZH Ultra soft and did not care for it very much! Quote
Super User Darren. Posted January 19, 2014 Super User Posted January 19, 2014 I tried the YZH Ultra soft and did not care for it very much! Same experience here. Did not care for YZH US much. Prefer straight YZH hands-down. But again, for me, I'll go P-Line Floroclear first, then YZH. I use both, I like both, have lots of spools of both. Almost always have both on different rods I take with me...just because. Quote
Super User Goose52 Posted January 19, 2014 Super User Posted January 19, 2014 I have regular YZH on my deep cranking rod (10lb) - it just seems a bit stronger and abrasion resistant than the Ultra-Soft. BUT, all my other YZ applications are with Ultra-Soft - both BC and spinning. Ultra-Soft is probably not as good a line as the regular, but it IS more manageable, and still strong enough. The main reason I have so much Ultra-Soft was the outstanding deal on it a couple years ago - $25 for ONE pound spools (5,800 to 8,000 yards per spool). I got two spools of 10lb, and one each of 8lb and 6lb for a hundred bucks plus shipping - about what some folks pay for 3 filler spools of flouro. I'm just about finished with the first spool of 10lb - glad I have the second spool ready to go... The 10lb Ultra-Soft seems to be strong enough for my purposes... 1 Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted January 19, 2014 Super User Posted January 19, 2014 This coming season im try YZH for the first time. Got 12# in 600 yd for $13.00. Not a big investment so if I don't like it, no big deal. It gets rave reviews here so im confident it'll work out. 1 Quote
supreme Posted January 19, 2014 Posted January 19, 2014 Gamma Co-poly rules 8 lbs,12 lbs & 14 lbs green 1 Quote
Super User WRB Posted January 20, 2014 Super User Posted January 20, 2014 What is the definition of copolymer fishing line? Polymer is 2 monomers blended, a copolymer is 2 polymers blended, coextrusion is 1 monomer or polymer extruded over a core of another monomer or polymer. YoZuri is a coextruded line, not a copolymer; fluorocarbon extruded over Nylon and why it's called a hybrid. P-line CXX is a copolymer, 2 grades of Nylon blended. Tom 2 Quote
Kickedback Posted January 26, 2014 Posted January 26, 2014 A little late but my take just the same...I have used Silver Thread for as many years as I can remember. I don't think I will ever switch, it's that good. Compare dia. to strength and it beats many others. I buy bulk spools and save a lot. 6, 10 and 17 lb are the ones. Good stuff 1 Quote
Super User Tywithay Posted January 26, 2014 Super User Posted January 26, 2014 Love Shooter Defier and Defier Armilo. I've tried just about everything and nothing compares, they're simply the best. 1 Quote
black94gt50 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I use pline ćxx on my square bill setup. Powell diesel with a citica e. I use the 12 lb test ćxx and it has yet to let me down, the stuff is strong and pretty abrasive resistant. 1 Quote
moguy1973 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I'm a big fan of P-Line CX Premium. It'll probably be the only line I use in the future unless I have a braid topwater reel. I also use Yozuri Hybrid, and although I like it, I don't like it as much as the CX Premium. Quote
Super User RoLo Posted January 28, 2014 Super User Posted January 28, 2014 P-Line CX Premium (for dropshot rigs only) CXX is a strong copolymer line (nylon blend), however CX Premium is a cofilament copolymer line. CX Premium has a copolymer core with a fluorocarbon sheath (I use it for dropshot leaders, not the main line). Roger Quote
grampa1114 Posted January 28, 2014 Posted January 28, 2014 I'm coming late to this discussion but went back to the beginning and read it all...My preference for the last 5 years or so has been Yo-zuri in 6#....when the soft came out, it also worked well with a little less memory. Throwing finesse baits was fairly easy and the occasional big fish would come in easily with the very high break strength. The problem now is finding 6# clear in bulk spools. Basspro doesn't carry it. Cabela's doesn't carry it and I didn't see it at Tackle Warehouse either. This is my line of choice so where do I find it? Quote
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