Marketing Ploys

[jtesch]

O.K boys, lets hear your thoughts on some of the biggest marketing tricks the manufacturers have tried to run past us

2 spring to my mind

 

1---   long cast spools {spinning reels}

2---   high frame spinning rod guides

 

3---- wrong forum but "Bleeding baits/blood red hooks

 

Things like A-Rigs and Chatterbaits I think of as innovations not ploys

[JeziHogg]

The UFO glow kit from that stupid swim bait infomercial they have on WFN..

 

Edit: Remember now, Might bite lures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eZwJvGnAcg

 

and there's another one that I cant think the name of, but its a thing you put on a spinning reel and its suppose to give your baits instant action.

[jtesch]

good one

[Grantman83]

The trend of "corrosive resistant" ie plastic replacements of previously metal parts

[S Hovanec]

High frame spinning guides are not a marketing ploy. The correct guide height needs to be used to properly lay-out a rod, be it standard frame or high frame. One of my favorite (and effective) lay-outs uses a combination of high frame and standard.

[A-Jay]

Fishing line ~ Some are good, most are average, a couple are very good and a few still, really wang.

But read the back of any line box or spool, whether it's Monofilament, Copolymer, Fluorocarbon or Braid, advertised characteristics are remarkably similar regardless of the type of line.

 

~Extremely Strong

~Abrasion Resistant

~Great Knot Strength

~Outstanding sensitivity

~Thin Diameter

~Very Supple & Manageable

~Long Casting

and finally Low, No or controlled Stretch properties.

 

Compared to what ?  The can't ALL be the same.

 

A-Jay

[jtesch]

^{I'm speaking of the high frame spinning guides that came out in the late 80's. As someone who built 30+ rods, they simply didn't work. todays high frames mixed with standards are great but in my opinion the guides of the late 80's were pure marketing and never worked. The best evidence is that they totally disappeared a couple of years after they came out.}

[SenkoGuru]

 The new Daiwa Tatula with it's air rotation, they claim it makes the reel smoother. Now don't get me wrong, I really like the reel, Have a type-R and it is great but the air rotation they are marketing is nothing more than an extra bearing to support the pinion gear.

[Jrob78]

Technique specific rods.  While they are useful to some degree, it's still a marketing ploy of the highest order.

[*Hootie]

I will probably ruffle a few feathers with this one, but I think this rod sensitivity thing is overblown.

Not saying it isn't real, just that in many cases, it doesn't matter or have any real effect on a lot of us. Keep in mind I am talking about bottom contact baits. I know it makes little to no difference with reaction baits. But when you pay upwards of four to five hundred dollars for a SENSITIVE rod, and your hands are as sensitive as a knot on a log, and you have the focus and attention span of a moth, it isn't going to make much of a difference. I think a big part of the sensitivity thing working at all, is "CONCENTRATION". That's why my buddy can outfish me time and time again with his $40.00 BPS graphite series rods . His concentration ability is downright "spooky".

Sometimes when I am fishing with him, I feel like I might as well be fishing alone. So, yes, I am sure it's real, but if it doesn't help, why waste the money.......my 2 cents.

Hootie

[doyle8218]

Technique specific rods.  While they are useful to some degree, it's still a marketing ploy of the highest order.

I can't agree more.

It is one of the MANY ploys.

[Grantman83]

Technique specific rods. While they are useful to some degree, it's still a marketing ploy of the highest order.

Especially when the same technique can have many different rod types and actions. Heck, the quantum tactical series has two flipping sticks with totally different actions. Same technique used by two different guys two different ways.

[Megastink]

The KVD frog...... Why would you buy a frog designed by a guy who doesn't throw frogs!?!?!?

Sure, it'll catch fish. But so will the banjo minnow....

[nascar2428]

No industry wide standards. Rods, hooks, jig and spinnerbait weights, the list goes on and on. It's a manufacturer and marketing dream and a consumers nightmare. Just my two cents.

[jtesch]

I've got a good one, the WAVE Reel. used one a couple of times and  NO

[SirSnookalot]

Technique specific rods.  While they are useful to some degree, it's still a marketing ploy of the highest order.

Really ?   lol

 

Not a marketing ploy but something some of the lure companies are doing now, I've see it done for years by fishermen, both in person and tv, I like it,  Siwash hooks on spoons have been popular a long time but single hooks on hard lures is just gaining popularity.  

[senile1]

Technique specific rods.  While they are useful to some degree, it's still a marketing ploy of the highest order.

 

I think that's an excellent point.  There are different combinations of actions and powers that come in handy for particular techniques but I think I could narrow it down to four, at most, to accomplish what I need the vast majority of the time.  That's not to say that I don't have more than four rods though.  It is nice to grab a rod that already has a lure attached rather than cutting and tying different lures throughout the day.

[Bass Junkie]

 The new Daiwa Tatula with it's air rotation, they claim it makes the reel smoother. Now don't get me wrong, I really like the reel, Have a type-R and it is great but the air rotation they are marketing is nothing more than an extra bearing to support the pinion gear.

So? It makes the reel smoother, which is the marketed purpose. It takes the reel from a connected Daiwa feel to more of a floating Shimano feel. I personally despise that move, but it is successful in completing it's intended purpose. 

[dam0007]

Coming from a die hard shimano fan. How do you put perfectly balanced and extremely tip heavy in the same sentence...

[Delaware Valley Tackle]

High frame spinning guides are not a marketing ploy. The correct guide height needs to be used to properly lay-out a rod, be it standard frame or high frame. One of my favorite (and effective) lay-outs uses a combination of high frame and standard.

x2 Same goes for "micro" guides when applied correctly.

[Raul]

Magnum 7-20 and 14 - 40 = POS !!!!! big time !

[Felix77]

Do micro guides ensuring a longer casts a ploy?

[Goaltender]

IMOO I think the $400.00 HydroWave "ignite a feeding frenzy" is one of the biggest marketing ploys of recent history. These devices have been produced on and off over the past 30 years yet they have never been proven to work. 

[Fishes in trees]

Please don't remind me of all the different marketing ploys I've fallen for over the past 30+ years.  It will make me feel bad and damage my self-esteem.  OOPS, just thinking about it a little bit, I can feel my self-esteem slipping, I think I'll have a beer so that I won't remember that I have low self-esteem.  In my defense, most of the marketing ploys made some degree of sense at the time, and I never did buy any banjo minnows.  And I never bought a Ron Popiel pocket fisherman.  And I only bought one pack of the "flying lures" ( which were actually a good idea and worked as advertised.)

[reelnmn]

Color selection.  Just take a look at Yamamoto senkos.  A popular online tackle store stocks 74 different colors of this one bait...  C'MON MAN!!!