Super User Root beer Posted January 7, 2014 Super User Posted January 7, 2014 I'm bored at work.... Check these stories out: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/10258647/fan-sues-nfl-claims-super-bowl-ticket-prices-too-expensive Let say for argumentative sake that the NFL was really being unfair in ticket allocation. Let say the guy has a case, but how is it the NFL's fault that secondary sellers are the one pricing and selling out these tickets?!?! Even then how is it worth $100 millions in damages... It's not like the NFL destroyed his properties, and defrauded him out of millions... Check this clown out from Ohio State who plans to sue the Big Ten: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10258208/noah-spence-ohio-state-buckeyes-suspended-testing-positive-ecstasy He had his suspension in the first appeal reduced to 3 games vs. an entire season. 2nd appeal gets denied, so they're going to sue for what?!?! Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted January 7, 2014 Super User Posted January 7, 2014 I'm bored at work.... Check these stories out: http://espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/story/_/id/10258647/fan-sues-nfl-claims-super-bowl-ticket-prices-too-expensive Let say for argumentative sake that the NFL was really being unfair in ticket allocation. Let say the guy has a case, but how is it the NFL's fault that secondary sellers are the one pricing and selling out these tickets?!?! Even then how is it worth $100 millions in damages... It's not like the NFL destroyed his properties, and defrauded him out of millions... Check this clown out from Ohio State who plans to sue the Big Ten: http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/10258208/noah-spence-ohio-state-buckeyes-suspended-testing-positive-ecstasy He had his suspension in the first appeal reduced to 3 games vs. an entire season. 2nd appeal gets denied, so they're going to sue for what?!?! While I agree the lawsuits are crazy, the first one has a little merit. The NFL is a NON Profit organization, and my feelings as such is that they should be pricing the Bowl tickets to the average fan, somewhat. After all, we pay their taxes.. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted January 7, 2014 Super User Posted January 7, 2014 http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/12/nfl-tax-exempt-status-rootstrikers-roger-goodell Quote
Super User Root beer Posted January 7, 2014 Author Super User Posted January 7, 2014 While I agree the lawsuits are crazy, the first one has a little merit. The NFL is a NON Profit organization, and my feelings as such is that they should be pricing the Bowl tickets to the average fan, somewhat. After all, we pay their taxes.. I don't think people understands what non-profit means. It doesn't mean the NFL cannot make a profit, it means the owners cannot take profits out of the businesses. I think it's United Way, maybe? The CEO of United Way makes like $1 million bucks in compensation. The organization has TONS of money, they just cannot take it out of the organization and pay it in form of dividends like traditional corporations. That really the primary difference between non-profits and profit organization. And its tax status. Quote
Super User deaknh03 Posted January 7, 2014 Super User Posted January 7, 2014 I don't think people understands what non-profit means. It doesn't mean the NFL cannot make a profit, it means the owners cannot take profits out of the businesses. I think it's United Way, maybe? The CEO of United Way makes like $1 million bucks in compensation. The organization has TONS of money, they just cannot take it out of the organization and pay it in form of dividends like traditional corporations. That really the primary difference between non-profits and profit organization. And its tax status. Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted January 7, 2014 Super User Posted January 7, 2014 Also the NFL itself doesn't make money per se...it is the teams. I like to think of it as the NFL is the pimp for the rest of the teams and gets it cut accordingly. 1 Quote
Super User Root beer Posted January 7, 2014 Author Super User Posted January 7, 2014 I don't think people understands what non-profit means. It doesn't mean the NFL cannot make a profit, it means the owners cannot take profits out of the businesses. I think it's United Way, maybe? The CEO of United Way makes like $1 million bucks in compensation. The organization has TONS of money, they just cannot take it out of the organization and pay it in form of dividends like traditional corporations. That really the primary difference between non-profits and profit organization. And its tax status. What your point? Gooddell still has pay federal income taxes on his earnings. It just the nfl itself doesn't. It not like millions spent on salaries are tax exempted. Quote
Super User tomustang Posted January 7, 2014 Super User Posted January 7, 2014 What's the NFL price and the 2nd party markup price? Quote
Super User tomustang Posted January 7, 2014 Super User Posted January 7, 2014 You would think a non profit organization wouldn't be so anal about the digital re-creation clips for games. 'Express written permission' Quote
Super User Root beer Posted January 7, 2014 Author Super User Posted January 7, 2014 What's the NFL price and the 2nd party markup price? I think the complaint is that NFL doesn't releases enough tickets at face values. (Someone have chime in and on what the face value is or do some googling.) Then the 2nd party take what's available and apply whatever prices they can to get it off their hand. I don't know how much NFL charges 2nd parties to buy them. I've paid 200 bucks for two college football tickets and the face values were around 50-60 bucks a piece. It a weird lawsuit, I don't know how it going to have merit. They cited some fraud law and I know nothing about State of New Jersey laws... I just thought the damage he was seeking was hilarious. A $100 million bucks for tickets that probably cost in mid-hundreds at its cheapest.. Man, Alabama/LSU or Alabama/Auburn tickets has fetched for those prices where average people couldn't afford them... Quote
Super User flyfisher Posted January 7, 2014 Super User Posted January 7, 2014 This is a stupid lawsuit and i hope they laugh him out of court and charge him for wasting the time of the judicial system. Super Bowl tickets, from what i understand are obtained via lottery after all the players, coaches, team etc...tickets are handed out. If you can't afford the tickets then save up and go in a few years. I know the patriots were nailing season ticket holders for selling over face value on stub hub because they weren't getting a cut of the money but i believe it was challenged and found to be invalid. And what is the average fan anyways? Are we talking national average of salary in the 40k range? I have paid triple face value for a world series ticket and double for playoffs for both football, baseball and basketball. Unless you are season ticket holder it is how it goes...you pay the price or you watch in HD at home.....pretty simple really. Quote
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