fsuboy99 Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Just wanted to get some new fluorocarbon for my bait caster something that works good obviously and that has good stretch and is strong for some top water fishing/jig fishing any one got ideas? Quote
Super User Darren. Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 Well, like a lot of us, you can use braid for a mainline on your baitcaster, and use any type of fluoro, copoly, or mono, for whatever technique you want to fish. So if you want FC for top water, grab a spool of one recommended kind, another spool of a different recommended kind and you can decide which is best w/o respooling your bc for the one you prefer. Tie the leader as long as you need it, whether 2 feet or 30 feet. Doesn't matter... Â 2 cents.... Quote
fsuboy99 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Posted December 31, 2013 Well, like a lot of us, you can use braid for a mainline on your baitcaster, and use any type of fluoro, copoly, or mono, for whatever technique you want to fish. So if you want FC for top water, grab a spool of one recommended kind, another spool of a different recommended kind and you can decide which is best w/o respooling your bc for the one you prefer. Tie the leader as long as you need it, whether 2 feet or 30 feet. Doesn't matter... Â 2 cents.... I already use braid but im honetly just a little bored with it and wanna change it up for awhile if y geg what I mean Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 Just wanted to get some new fluorocarbon for my bait caster something that works good obviously and that has good stretch and is strong for some top water fishing/jig fishing any one got ideas? Your post is confusing.  Fluorocarbon sinks so it isn't very good for topwater fishing.  What is good stretch?  Most  people like fluorocarbon because it has less stretch than mono.  If you want one with a lot of stretch, that's going to be different than the "best" which is what the title says.  Be a little more clear and I'm sure you will get some recommendations. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 I already use braid but im honetly just a little bored with it and wanna change it up for awhile if y geg what I mean  Oh I get ya. I understand. What I'm saying is to use that braid and tie on a leader to it. It will make a difference and not waste you a lot of $$ experimenting with different spools of fluorocarbon.  There's cheap and worthless stuff, and expensive stuff (FC).  And there's bad/good/better line for top water. FC may not be your best bet here, hence tie a leader that best fits the style of fishing you are wanting to do. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 Oh I get ya. I understand. What I'm saying is to use that braid and tie on a leader to it. It will make a difference and not waste you a lot of $$ experimenting with different spools of fluorocarbon. Â There's cheap and worthless stuff, and expensive stuff (FC). Are you a braid salesman or something? Â He wants to know about fluorocarbon, not braid with a leader. Quote
Toeshots Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Are you a braid salesman or something? He wants to know about fluorocarbon, not braid with a leader. Sounds like the OP is using 1 setup and wants his line to cover multiple techniques. Darren is saying to keep the braid but use different leaders so that he can fish those techniques in a potentially more successful (and cost effective) manner. As you said, FC is not ideal for topwater due to the fact that it sinks, so maybe the OP could use a mono leader or the straight braid for topwater. When he wants to fish bottom-contact techniques he can tie on a FC leader and be good to go. As the OP has not indicated that he is looking to buy another setup, using leaders gives him to chance to use FC for jigs and then be able to change to a more topwater-favored line with the same rod and reel. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 Sounds like the OP is using 1 setup and wants his line to cover multiple techniques. Darren is saying to keep the braid but use different leaders so that he can fish those techniques in a potentially more successful (and cost effective) manner. As you said, FC is not ideal for topwater due to the fact that it sinks, so maybe the OP could use a mono leader or the straight braid for topwater. When he wants to fish bottom-contact techniques he can tie on a FC leader and be good to go. As the OP has not indicated that he is looking to buy another setup, using leaders gives him to chance to use FC for jigs and then be able to change to a more topwater-favored line with the same rod and reel. I'm fully aware of the reasons people use braid with a leader. Â The OP asked about fluorocarbon and said he already uses braid but wanted to try something else. Â What's so hard to understand about that? Quote
Toeshots Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 The best Fluorocarbon? Seaguar Tatsu is incredible stuff but runs about $30-$40 for a 200 yd spool. Not sure if you had a price limit in mind, but for "best" FC, I think Tatsu would be hard to beat. Quote
Toeshots Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 I'm fully aware of the reasons people use braid with a leader. The OP asked about fluorocarbon and said he already uses braid but wanted to try something else. What's so hard to understand about that? No hard to understand, but would you recommend straight FC for a combined topwater/jig setup? Quote
fsuboy99 Posted December 31, 2013 Author Posted December 31, 2013 The best Fluorocarbon? Seaguar Tatsu is incredible stuff but runs about $30-$40 for a 200 yd spool. Not sure if you had a price limit in mind, but for "best" FC, I think Tatsu would be hard to beat. ya I heard that stuff isnt bad and na no price range and I have more then one setup I use im just bored with braid and leader and I get better results with poppers using fluoro and better results with braid on frogs but ya jrob here seems to not understand what im saying Quote
Trey Harpel Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 good flouro for the price is Abrazx.. stuff is tough as nails as I use it on my jig setups all year without issues.. Now I WOULDNT use it Topwater, but thats just me.. Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 ya I heard that stuff isnt bad and na no price range and I have more then one setup I use im just bored with braid and leader and I get better results with poppers using fluoro and better results with braid on frogs but ya jrob here seems to not understand what im saying What I don't understand is if you want a stretchy fluorocarbon or not. Â I assume that's what "good stretch" means. Â If you want to use fluoro for topwater, that's your business. Â It sinks so most people don't like it for top water fishing. Â If you want a stretchy fluoro, I recommend Seaguar Invizx. Â If you want the best fluoro, try Seaguar Tatsu, Sunline Shooter or Sunline Sniper. Â Sniper is a little cheaper than the others but still a great line. Quote
Super User Darren. Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 Are you a braid salesman or something? Â He wants to know about fluorocarbon, not braid with a leader. Â What I don't understand is if you want a stretchy fluorocarbon or not. Â I assume that's what "good stretch" means. Â If you want to use fluoro for topwater, that's your business. Â It sinks so most people don't like it for top water fishing. Â If you want a stretchy fluoro, I recommend Seaguar Invizx. Â If you want the best fluoro, try Seaguar Tatsu, Sunline Shooter or Sunline Sniper. Â Sniper is a little cheaper than the others but still a great line. Â No, not a braid salesman, Jrob. Just offering a money-saving alternative. Â All good info, Jrob. FC is not the best bet for top water, and your rec of Seaguar lines is great. My point with sticking with braid for a mainline is when he buys that expensive FC line, what if he doesn't like it for X purpose? Therefore, hey, use it for another purpose! Try something else. You haven't dropped a bunch of money to spool a reel entirely with FC that you may/may not like. Instead of ripping off the entire spool of that expensive line, just tie on a new leader that suits the purpose at hand. Â That's all I'm sayin. Not trying to start an argument. It's all good. We all have opinions that may or may not meet another's needs. 1 Quote
Super User Jrob78 Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 Â Â Â No, not a braid salesman, Jrob. Just offering a money-saving alternative. Â All good info, Jrob. FC is not the best bet for top water, and your rec of Seaguar lines is great. My point with sticking with braid for a mainline is when he buys that expensive FC line, what if he doesn't like it for X purpose? Therefore, hey, use it for another purpose! Try something else. You haven't dropped a bunch of money to spool a reel entirely with FC that you may/may not like. Instead of ripping off the entire spool of that expensive line, just tie on a new leader that suits the purpose at hand. Â That's all I'm sayin. Not trying to start an argument. It's all good. We all have opinions that may or may not meet another's needs. Â Right, but he clearly doesn't want braid. Â Now there's 4 posts about the benefits of braid in a fluorocarbon thread, lol. Â It's all good though, I'm not trying to argue either. Â It just struck me wrong I guess. Â Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 Sounds like you're a fluorocarbon salesman or something? It's also been proven time and time again that fluoro stretches equally and in some cases more then mono does. It's advantages are abrasion resistance and less visibility. OP Sunline sniper is a great fc line and has a good price tag also. 2 Quote
Super User Felix77 Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 I am a Seaguar InvizX fan for everything except topwater. Â The views and opinions expressed on this post are solely those of the original author. These views and opinions do not necessarily represent those of Seaguar, others who have used it, and/or any/all contributors to this site. Â Just in case -Â 2 Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 I am a Seaguar InvizX fan for everything except topwater. Â The views and opinions expressed on this post are solely those of the original author. These views and opinions do not necessarily represent those of Seaguar, others who have used it, and/or any/all contributors to this site. Â Just in case -Â Â The InvizX might be your best option. The only knock on the line is that most guys find it "stretchy" compared to other brands which is exactly what you are looking for! Â Â Quote
Super User aavery2 Posted December 31, 2013 Super User Posted December 31, 2013 Stretch is typically not considered a good quality in FC line, although as mentioned some FC line has a good amount, InvisX comes to mind. I think the best properties of a good FC line are its reduced visibility (subjective) it's increased abrasion resistance and it is a denser line making it transmit vibration better than some other lines. Being a dense line, it is not often thought of as a great choice for topwater baits, it tends to shine with contact baits where sensitivity and slack line feedback are important. Just as any other line there are drawbacks to FC, it is expensive when compared to some other lines, because it is dense it tends to break if it gets kinked, and if it does stretch it does not recover, it deforms the line and makes is very weak and useless in the affected area. I have tried several different FC lines over the last couple of years and I like Tatsu, it has a nice blend of the properties that I like when using FC line. Quote
Arv Posted December 31, 2013 Posted December 31, 2013 Without getting into the top water debate, sunline sniper has been my favorite thus far Quote
Super User Teal Posted January 1, 2014 Super User Posted January 1, 2014 SunLine and Seagar make good lines. Sniper is my favorite Quote
livetofish28 Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 If you want to try a quality fluoro that doesn't break the bank try seaguar red label it's cheap and does what I want of it. another decent one I found is trilene 100%. That's just my .02 cents Tight lines Andrew Quote
Chance_Taker4 Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 If you want to try a quality fluoro that doesn't break the bank try seaguar red label it's cheap and does what I want of it. another decent one I found is trilene 100%. That's just my .02 cents Tight lines Andrew X2 on the Red Line if I'm not using Yo-Zuri Hybrid Red Line is on them. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted January 3, 2014 Super User Posted January 3, 2014 If I had to use the same rod for jigs and topwater, fluoro wouldn't be on my list of "something different" to try. I'd try something like P-Line CXX. 12 or 15# should do. Quote
mjseverson24 Posted January 3, 2014 Posted January 3, 2014 if I had to use floro for jigs it would be 12-20 lb either invisx or abrasx (red label works well too), if i had to use floro for topwater baits in sparse cover it would be 6 lb invisx, for heavy cover topwater umm... not sure probabily 20 lb abrasx.  Mitch Quote
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