Super User MarkH024 Posted December 29, 2013 Super User Posted December 29, 2013 The problem with him using them. Is what he doesn't tell ya. He doesn't use the same reel for long. Most likely not even a season. If so it would be sloppy feeling as heck. Might even be grinding after the fish he is catching. They all are smooth for a little while but feel like there going to fall apart soon. Not from my experience with Quantum as I have none. But I'd guess them to be like others. If you have no experience with them then your statement holds 0 credibility. I've used mine for over 3 seasons and they're still performing great. I've taken care of mine the same way I do on all my Shimano reels and nothing has broken or worn out. 1 Quote
Super User *Hootie Posted December 29, 2013 Super User Posted December 29, 2013 Mark, I'll leave the rest of this to you and A-jay. I'm getting scared....lol. Hootie 1 Quote
Super User kickerfish1 Posted December 29, 2013 Super User Posted December 29, 2013 Not to mention being paid big $$$ to fish said product. In any sport that can often mislead folks into thinking that is what that particular pro prefers over any other product in the marketplace. Say for example purposes only...Daiwa would pay KVD $500,000 a year to exclusively fish their rods and reels for all of his tournaments and public events. However Quantum will pay him $1,000,000 to fish there products. Point is sometimes it is the dollars talking when it comes to products. Scott Martin and Okuma comes to mind as well. I would also be willing to bet companies are only willing to sponsor x number of anglers each year and when that number is met they politely turn away others. On a side note when KVD is being shown on the BPS fishing show (the name escapes me) ... isn't he fishing BPS brand rods and reels and not quantums? Perhaps I am mistaken but i thought I saw this in a few episodes. This would imply he like most of us, would fish with whatever we were paid to promote. FWIW I have reels by shimano, Daiwa, quantum, Abu, Okuma, Lews, and Pfleuger though most are shimano and Daiwa. Point is there is a difference between fishing a product because you feel it is best and fishing a product because you are being paid a larger sum of money to do so. When purchasing equipment buy what you like best and what you think fits the mold of what you are trying to do and not what others prefer. Getting advice from pro staffers is only good once you have came to the conclusion that a product within that rod or reel line is the right choice for you. They likely own darn near ever rod and reel in their product line and sometimes duplicates. Otherwise you are getting very biased advice. Quantum has been around for a very long time. If they made truly poor products they would be out of business. While many may not care for their product offerings or certain products they still do well in the under $250 price range for reels. I still have a few energy reels that are going strong after 15 years. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 29, 2013 Super User Posted December 29, 2013 Mark, I'll leave the rest of this to you and A-jay. I'm getting scared....lol. Hootie   It's all good & I'm done.  A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User MarkH024 Posted December 29, 2013 Super User Posted December 29, 2013 It's all good & I'm done. A-Jay X2 no need to go any further on it. 1 Quote
Super User iabass8 Posted December 29, 2013 Super User Posted December 29, 2013 The problem with him using them. Is what he doesn't tell ya. He doesn't use the same reel for long. Most likely not even a season. If so it would be sloppy feeling as heck. Might even be grinding after the fish he is catching. They all are smooth for a little while but feel like there going to fall apart soon. Not from my experience with Quantum as I have none. But I'd guess them to be like others. your user name is perfect. Quote
Hogsticker Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Some people get decent reels, some get really bad reels. The moral of the story is Quantum has obvious quality control issues that can lead to putting a bad taste in consumers mouths. This has been discussed and disected time and time again on TT. I've played with smokes that I couldn't even get the non handle side plate off of. After burning the drags out in an accurist, catalyst, and energy within 6 months of moderate use, I decided no more. Besides, the bulge in the non handle side plate drives me nuts. As for KVD, he has an endless supply of reels readily available at no expense. He's not replacing drag washers are messing around with defective equipment. Plus he's getting paid bucoo bucks to use them. For that kinda dough so would I, but I don't and can't afford to keep replacing them. Quote
coak Posted December 29, 2013 Posted December 29, 2013 Quantum reels are the predominate ones in my arsenal. I have an Energy PT IV, 3 Tour Editions and a KVD Tour. I also have the likes of Daiwa and BPS reels. I like my Quantums and I too feel that they do not get enough 'love' as well as some others on this forum i.e. Okuma and Pflueger. Like stated earlier there have been qc issues with some reels, but then again there will always be issues with any manufacturer. I believe personally that my reels are workhorses, able to do anything I ask of them and am able to do myself (casting properly). With that said, I'm a bargain buyer and have never bought a reel that I couldn't get for @least 40-50% off. I love my Quantums and will no doubt buy more in the future. I personally think they are on par with the likes of Shimano, Abu Garcia and Daiwa. When it boils down to it, rod and reel ownership and the opinions that follow are completely subjective and hardly if ever objective. The first sign of trouble with anything, and us fisherman are ready to say "never again will such and such company get my hard earned money".   1 Quote
Super User Raul Posted December 29, 2013 Super User Posted December 29, 2013 My experience with Quantum dates back to the late 80's, one rod and one reel, both experiences were quite dissapointing, so, I don´t care if Quantum has improved, why would I care about them improving when I can purchase gear from companies that do it right on the first attempt ? ( Shimano is a good example ). Quote
cddan Posted December 30, 2013 Author Posted December 30, 2013 I'm gonna have to fish Quantum more often to see how it goes. It usually ends with an unprovoked ,unannounced untimely backlash. The reels I usually use rarely have casting issues, other than user error. The quantum reels I began this post with talking about are their high end Kvd,Smoke and Tour edition. All over 200 bucks new. The Kvd is 3. I once owned the older Accurist It casted well. Last I saw it was on a shelf in my ex's attic coven  with a birdsnest... I really miss that reel. Thank you all for your replies.Keep them coming if you need to vent! Tips tricks and pics are welcome. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 30, 2013 Super User Posted December 30, 2013  "My Brand is better than Your Brand" threads are perhaps my least favorite topics on the entire BR fishing forum. Rarely if ever, to these threads add anything constructive to what is otherwise such an excellent site. I can't even call them entertaining as they routinely cause disharmony. Question regarding certain brands / models are routinely answered with adequate information provided by members who have experience using the equipment. Posts offering the opportunity to debate brand quality, performance and dependability, illicit responses that appear defensive, misrepresented and hard to interpret; completely different from so many of the high quality response elsewhere on the forum.  If there is nothing good to say . . . . . . . .  A-Jay 1 Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted December 30, 2013 Super User Posted December 30, 2013    After burning the drags out in an accurist, catalyst, and energy within 6 months of moderate use, I decided no more.  Regardless of brand, price range, fresh or salt and size of species, I've yet to wear out any drag in 6 months, and my equipment gets more than moderate use.  I have replaced drags in only 2 reels, both get very heavy use.  A 4000 stradic fi after about 5 years for saltwater and a 30 supreme about the same time period in freshwater. Quote
Hogsticker Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Regardless of brand, price range, fresh or salt and size of species, I've yet to wear out any drag in 6 months, and my equipment gets more than moderate use. Â I have replaced drags in only 2 reels, both get very heavy use. Â A 4000 stradic fi after about 5 years for saltwater and a 30 supreme about the same time period in freshwater. Exactly. My only experience with this was with Quantum reels. Not 1, but 3. An Energy isn't any better than a Tatula, a Smoke any better than a Chronarch, so price for price why would I spend my money on something that offers no performance gains over competing brands that are known to have quality control issues?And that is exactly what these type of forums are for. To talk about our experiences and share this information in order to help other members make informed decisions regarding techniques and equipment. There is no if you have nothing nice to say don't say anything at all. If that were the case there would be no point at all. At the end of the day the consumer is going to buy what they like/want, but we should all know that spinning a reel handle in the store tells us VERY little about what the reel can/will do on the water, and the longevity of the reel and what type of quality control issues will arise after 6-12 months of use. I have been doing this for some time now, and yes, I have become a brand loyalist because I know what I'm gonna get. I've tried a LOT of reels, and am still open to trying new items, just nothing Quantum produces. If I'm not mistaken this site is geared toward helping newer anglers be the best they can be, with a lot of experienced anglers helping these folks pave the way. With that being said, I'm not going to steer anyone in the wrong direction here, but MY experience with Quantum has been bad. The OP was titled "Quantum Reels". IMO, better are options are available. Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Quantums are the main reels in my arsenal with a couple of Daiwa reels (Aggrest),Cabelas Prodigy(Made by Daiwa) and a BPS Pro Qualifier on the casting side. On the spinning side its Quantum, Pflueger and yes a Shimano is in the mix as well. I only have PT series Quantum reels and they hit the tournament trail with me as well as Any time I can wet a line during the warmer months here in Illinois. I have never had a problem with any of them over the time period that I have owned the brand. I'll continue to fish them but nothing for me lower than the PT series of reels. The Smoke is the next Quantum I will be purchasing for the tournament season after just purchasing a upper end KVD model. Quote
craww Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Quantum has come a long ways in the last 6-7 years. They have been very proactive and do seem to listen to the consumer. They have a bad name to many from some past issues. To some like my buddy they "will always be a souped up zebco". It seems no matter what they do they still have that stink on their hang down to certain vocal individuals. By all accounts the last few gens of PT's have been good solid reels. The spinning reels are VERY popular with the saltwater guys, which says something regarding the build quality. Quote
coak Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 I'm gonna have to fish Quantum more often to see how it goes. It usually ends with an unprovoked ,unannounced untimely backlash. The reels I usually use rarely have casting issues, other than user error. The quantum reels I began this post with talking about are their high end Kvd,Smoke and Tour edition. All over 200 bucks new. The Kvd is 3. I once owned the older Accurist It casted well. Last I saw it was on a shelf in my ex's attic coven  with a birdsnest... I really miss that reel. Thank you all for your replies.Keep them coming if you need to vent! Tips tricks and pics are welcome. There is definitely a learning curve using the ACS braking system in the Quantum line up. Once you get one dialed in for the proper weight and what not they flat out fly, especially if you've upgraded the spool bearings and had it 'super tuned' 1 Quote
ChiCityBasser Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 There is definitely a learning curve using the ACS braking system in the Quantum line up. Once you get one dialed in for the proper weight and what not they flat out fly, especially if you've upgraded the spool bearings and had it 'super tuned' I had the previous Quantum Accurist (gray model) upgraded with a supertune and better bearings and can agree with you regarding the extra difference it can make in casting. Quote
cddan Posted December 30, 2013 Author Posted December 30, 2013 I have been practice casting the Quantum Pt tour Edition and I like it so far. I think like most all reels it takes time with the reel to get comfortable with it and learn its quirks until it fits your casting hand like a glove and you have properly maintained it. The reel seems like a good reel for upgrading.Haven't noticed any quirks with it yet seems like a solid reel. Quote
Tom H. Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 Well, I suppose I should post considering I think of myself as a Quantum aficionado. I currently own a whole dang bunch of them. Some old like the 3:8.1 cranking reel and what not to my new found loves the Smoke series. A reel is only as good as the person behind it. Proper maintenance and it will last for ever. Heck I've got some of the 20 dollar Quantums from when I was a kid that I still would take out and fish with. I may be in the minority here, but, I've never had a problem with any of mine...............      3 Quote
cddan Posted December 30, 2013 Author Posted December 30, 2013 Well, I suppose I should post considering I think of myself as a Quantum aficionado. I currently own a whole dang bunch of them. Some old like the 3:8.1 cranking reel and what not to my new found loves the Smoke series. A reel is only as good as the person behind it. Proper maintenance and it will last for ever. Heck I've got some of the 20 dollar Quantums from when I was a kid that I still would take out and fish with. I may be in the minority here, but, I've never had a problem with any of mine...............      do you use their hot sauce or another oil or lube when you service them? Quote
cddan Posted December 30, 2013 Author Posted December 30, 2013 Reels 2 006.jpg  A-Jay hot sauce? Quote
Tom H. Posted December 30, 2013 Posted December 30, 2013 I actually do use the hot sauce oil and grease, before it came out I used Berkley oil and grease. I think I may try the ardent at some time though just to see if I can tell any real difference. Quote
Super User A-Jay Posted December 30, 2013 Super User Posted December 30, 2013 No -  hot sauce?   My reels are serviced professionally when they need it.  Between services I use this.  A-Jay    Quote
cddan Posted December 30, 2013 Author Posted December 30, 2013 No -   My reels are serviced professionally when they need it.  Between services I use this.  A-Jay  Ardent Reel care.jpgI also use ardent. Do they use the sauce or something else? Quote
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