Dr. Watson Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 I've been using nothing but Gamakatsu EWGs and G-locks, but was wondering about the Owner Rig'n hook, wide gap plus, and twistlock hooks. What are the forum's thoughts? Also, does the cutting point actually have a better hookup ratio than the regular needle point. -Alex EDIT: Are the Owner J hooks with the the cutting point about the same as the Gamakatsu EWG or is the Owner Wide gap plus closer? Also, I used an owner offset Wide gap on a texas rig yesterday, caught only one fish, but the thing pretty much set himself on the cutting point. I'm sold, these things are awesome. Quote
Super User Micro Posted November 6, 2010 Super User Posted November 6, 2010 Owners are at least as good, maybe better, than Gamakatsus. Most of my experience is with the offset worm hooks and weighted and unweighted twist lock hooks. I use 4/0 1/8oz weighted Twsit Lock Hooks with Rage Tail Space Monkeys. I always end up loosing them before they dull. I used every size unweighted twist locks on everything from Horny Toads to NetBait frogs. And I've used offset hooks for worming. My favorites are small hooks used with Roboworms on split-shot rigs. Not much to say about them except that they are very high quality hooks. Quote
Super User Hammer 4 Posted November 6, 2010 Super User Posted November 6, 2010 Unless I bought a ton of bad gamies hooks, I'd have to say the Owners a tad bit better. Points seem to penetrate better than the gamies do. Quote
Super User 5bass Posted November 6, 2010 Super User Posted November 6, 2010 In my opinion, Owner > Gamakatsu Quote
Super User J Francho Posted November 6, 2010 Super User Posted November 6, 2010 In my opinion, Owner > Gamakatsu I agree, except in the case of the Gam. Drop Shot/Split Shot hooks and the Wide Gap Finesse hooks. If Owner put a bent eye and lost the green coating on the wacky hooks, I'd be all over them. The Wacky hooks don't perform as well the Gam. WGF hooks when snelled, and I suspect its the lack of the bend in the eye. The green paint just bugs me, LOL. Quote
Super User Shane J Posted November 6, 2010 Super User Posted November 6, 2010 Some of the best out there. Quote
Super User grimlin Posted November 6, 2010 Super User Posted November 6, 2010 In my opinion, Owner > Gamakatsu Same here....It's all i buy. Quote
hookset on 3 Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 http://www.bassresource.com/bass_fishing_forums/YaBB.pl?action=post;num=1175717328;virboard=;quote=14;title=PostReply Take a look at this forum on Conical vs. Cutting Point Hooks from the "Best of BR" threads. Quote
brushhoggin Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 its true. they even say on the package that the more the hook enters tissue the easier it is to penetrate. i use the owner offset shank wide gap for most of my plastics and use more of a wrist hookset than a hefty, violent one. it only takes a little to drive those points in and very rarely have fish come off. its like a hypodermic needle with a barb Quote
Super User Tin Posted November 6, 2010 Super User Posted November 6, 2010 In my opinion, Owner > Gamakatsu I agree, except in the case of the Gam. Drop Shot/Split Shot hooks and the Wide Gap Finesse hooks. If Owner put a bent eye and lost the green coating on the wacky hooks, I'd be all over them. The Wacky hooks don't perform as well the Gam. WGF hooks when snelled, and I suspect its the lack of the bend in the eye. The green paint just bugs me, LOL. Dead on guys... Quote
Super User Fishes in trees Posted November 6, 2010 Super User Posted November 6, 2010 I think most of the hooks out there are OK. When I need to buy hooks ( which isn't very often, as I've bought lots of them in the past) I look at the shape and how it will fit whatever bait I have in mind that moment. Quote
Dr. Watson Posted November 6, 2010 Author Posted November 6, 2010 I think I'm just gonna have to pick up a pack and try them out Quote
MMan16 Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 Only hook I use. Never had a problem. Absolutely love there twist lock and wacky hooks. Used Gammy's previously and would agree Owners are better. Quote
Randall Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 I use Owners 99% of the time. When I switched to the rig'n hook I found I had a stronger hook that took less force to set. It was perfect for catching larger bass on light line. It took less force to set which reduced brekoffs on the hookset and it did not flex during the fight to let the fish get off. It also has the advantage of coming through grass better than other hooks due to the bend coming out of the plastic being rounded. Quote
Super User SoFlaBassAddict Posted November 7, 2010 Super User Posted November 7, 2010 Trokars would be great hooks if a) they weren't overpriced the hook points didn't roll after a few fish. Quote
Super User Micro Posted November 8, 2010 Super User Posted November 8, 2010 +1 on the point "rolling" on Trokars. I bought some 4/0 twist lock Trokars to fish my Space Monkeys after reading all the hype. After a few fish, I could feel the point and there was a definite dulling of the point. I could run my finger up to the point an feel a snag. Never had that happen with Owners, or Gamakastu for that matter. It was the first and only time I've used Trokars. The rest are just sitting in my box. I've caught dozens of fish on the same 4/0 Owner and the point is still sharp. Quote
EastTexasBassin Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I like owners but gammies are ok too. Lately I've been using Moaner screw lock hooks and swimbait hooks and they're really nice. Probably the best deal out there for the price. Fish after fish after fish and they're still sharp as hell and the shape is just right imo. Quote
River Rat316 Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 I believe Moaners are Mustads repackaged. As far as Trokar goes, I think they need to do something to the point, I fished some of there flipping hooks, and as impressive as they were out of the package, I would put them behind any of the other big three after about 2-3 fish. For me its almost always Owner Quote
Dr. Watson Posted November 9, 2010 Author Posted November 9, 2010 Anybody know about my new question? I agree on the Trokar comment, $9.99 a pack is a bit much for a hook that doesn't have a more durable point. Quote
Super User roadwarrior Posted November 9, 2010 Super User Posted November 9, 2010 XPoint is another brand you will like. http://ttiblakemore.com/shop/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=6 8-) Quote
zero Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 i only use trokar for dropshot its better but other is cheaply made Quote
Nibbles Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 i only use trokar for dropshot its better but other is cheaply made Owner Mosquito Hooks are hardly "cheaply made". The same can be said for Gamakatsu Splitshot/Dropshot hooks. I've never had a problem with them not being sharp enough to hook a bass or not being sturdy enough to pull a large fish out of the water. In fact, I've pulled out numerous 15#+ hard-fighting river carp out of very fast moving tailwater on a single Gamakatsu dropshot hook. These carp are used to swimming against extremely swift tailwater currents every single day to feed on food carried down to them from the dam so they are ridiculously strong. The only company with cheaply made hooks that I can think of is Eagle Claw. And they manufacture Trokars. And how the heck does an 18 year old have pockets deep enough to fish hooks that cost $2 a pop? Quote
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