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            I'm watching Bill Dance's show. He's referring to tiger bass. what the heck are they?  They look and are colored like largemouth but appear to have broken vertical broken lines somewhat like smallies. Are these some kind of crossbreed?

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I believe it is a cross between Northern Strain and Florida Strain LMB, from what i have read they are usually used in private, well managed ponds due to their aggressiveness and how fast they put on weight.

 

Someone please correct me if i am wrong!

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Definitely not integrates between FLMB and NLMB, undetectable from visual appreance with the exception of lateral line pore scale counts, plus F1's are not anymore or less aggressive than pure NLMB or FLMB.

What Dance may be referencing to is cross between Spotted bass and Smallmouth bass which can be natural hybrids when they share the same ecosystem. The spotted-smallmouth hybrid is useually referred to as a meanmouth bass.

Tom

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Yeah, bass bred for aggressiveness and fast growth

 

Yes, ^^^^^^^^what he said^^^^^^^ I can't remember what magazine had an article on them. Some how this fish has the best qualities of FL LMB, and N LMB all put together. They are raised and bred in private lakes. 

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Ah it all makes sense now. ................I see TV hosts fishing in those tanks without ever seeing another fisherman or boat anywhere in site.

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Definitely not integrates between FLMB and NLMB, undetectable from visual appreance with the exception of lateral line pore scale counts, plus F1's are not anymore or less aggressive than pure NLMB or FLMB.

What Dance may be referencing to is cross between Spotted bass and Smallmouth bass which can be natural hybrids when they share the same ecosystem. The spotted-smallmouth hybrid is useually referred to as a meanmouth bass.

Tom

Huh, i read an article on pond management that included tiger bass. It said they were a cross between NLMB and FLMB

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Cross between NLMB & FLMB ;)

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F1's are integrates of pure Florida largemouth bass and pure Northern strain largemouth bass, common naturally in SoCal lakes for about 35 years now and the majority of the bass in our lakes today, including my avatar 19.3 lb mount.

The referenced article states that a Tiger bass is a aggressive NLMB and not FLMB-NLMB, they are called gorilla bass in the article, not Tiger bass.

Amazing that someone discovers a bass that is common and well known, then relabels the fish with a new catchy name like gorilla bass. Pure Florida LMB are catchable and no less aggressive than F1, they take more skill and finesse to catch on lures and for that reason anglers have a misconception about FLMB and F1's in general.

Tom

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Ah it all makes sense now. ................I see TV hosts fishing in those tanks without ever seeing another fisherman or boat anywhere in site.

I have yet to see Bill Dance film a bass show on any body of water except his own private pond. As you said, never see another fisherman. I'd love to spend a day with him on that pond. He should run a contest and take the winner fishing!

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I was watching that episode of Bill Dance as well few days ago

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I have yet to see Bill Dance film a bass show on any body of water except his own private pond. As you said, never see another fisherman. I'd love to spend a day with him on that pond. He should run a contest and take the winner fishing!

He probably figures if it ain't broke don't fix it lol

I was always wondering why he keeps catchin these HAWGS ;)

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http://www.americansportfish.com

 

"The name “Tiger Bass” is actually a registered trademark of American Sport Fish Hatchery in Montgomery, Ala. This name refers to the specific cross developed at American Sport Fish, utilizing its strain of aggressive, pure northern largemouth bass bred with a strain of proven trophy Florida largemouth bass. The purpose of this particular breeding was to create a true F-1 bass that would be easy to catch and have a rapid growth rate."

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http://www.americansportfish.com

 

"The name “Tiger Bass” is actually a registered trademark of American Sport Fish Hatchery in Montgomery, Ala. This name refers to the specific cross developed at American Sport Fish, utilizing its strain of aggressive, pure northern largemouth bass bred with a strain of proven trophy Florida largemouth bass. The purpose of this particular breeding was to create a true F-1 bass that would be easy to catch and have a rapid growth rate."

That's the article i read too

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Tiger Bass are a special (trademarked) type of F-1LMB.They are specially selected for size & aggression. Only American Sport Fish can sell them as they own the trademark & have selected the fish.

Gorilla Bass = agressive Northern strain

Tiger Bass = F1 - Gorilla x selected Florida LMB

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A friend of mine lives on a private lake with tiger bass. They look just like largemouth but they grow fast and are super aggressive. For some reason, they're much more difficult to hook also.

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Tiger Bass are a special (trademarked) type of F-1LMB.They are specially selected for size & aggression. Only American Sport Fish can sell them as they own the trademark & have selected the fish.

Gorilla Bass = agressive Northern strain

Tiger Bass = F1 - Gorilla x selected Florida LMB

What you are saying is the first linked Strike King article posted eariler "The birth of super bass" is wrong. Tiger bass are the most aggressive northern strain bass they raised. Gorilla bass are FLMB-northern LMB F1.

No debate that the Tiger Bass is a Trademark of the hatuary you mentioned.

Certainly not going to get into a contest over F1 FLMB-NLMB integrates as I have caught thousands F1's over the past 35 years to have first experience of both aggressive F1' s and less aggressive F1's. When Tiger bass gets into wild environments it will spawn with other LMB and average out the gene pool.

Lakes with both pure NLMB and FLMB spawn every year producing F1's and out of several million fry some are naturally aggressive, most of these don't live too long, some do. As the years pass the gene pool becomes integrated, no pure strains, the aggressive get caught, the more wary survive.

Tom

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To be honest, I fished a place that has them.  They seemed more aggressive only that they hit the lure a little harder.  They still were highly disinterested in some baits and were not extremely interested in chasing when it was not their happy time.  In the end, bass are bass and nothing is going to change that.

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Sorry Tom but can argue with the Pond Boss Bob Lusk, that's from a letter he sent my buddy James R. Snider who put Tiger Bass in his pond.

Pretty sure Mr. Lusk's qualifications are a tad bit higher than yours.

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I think the bottom line is that a tiger bass is a straing of bass bred to be both agressive and grow quickly and uses both NLMB and the FLMB to acheive these characteristics.  To me it is splitting hairs and is more of a marketing ploy and is something that happens naturally anyways where the populations intermix.  There is a lake here in VA that htey stocked both types of bass in an effort to repopulate the lake.  So while it wasn't tiger bass per se i can say that after 4-5 years of the lake being completley wiped out, the fish population is very healthy and i have caught numerous bass over 20" with the largest being 24".

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He probably figures if it ain't broke don't fix it lol

I was always wondering why he keeps catchin these HAWGS ;)

 

He's paid his dues and if I could afford it, I'd build and stock a pond like that too- and keep it all to myself. :fishing1:

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