Dup Realis 80 Spybait In Alabama

[CTGalloway21]

I would love to try this lure and presentation but it is almost impossible to find clear water in Alabama.  Most of our water looks like chocolate milk.  Sucks.

[War Eagle 44]

Well I have to disagree 100%, Lake Mitchell gets very clear at times and stays that way more time than it's stained, and even more so than the times it's down right muddy. Lay Lake can also be clear, especially Paint Creek. I was fishing there this past summer and could easily see down 4 to 5 feet.  

 

 

To your other point, I too was excited about this new style of fishing until I learned that for it to be fished effectively and as designed you need to use 5 pound test or lower line. I'm really not that sure I want to go through all the hassle that seems like it would be, I mean I already have an ultra light set up with white 5# Power Pro so I might pick one up at some point and give it a shot but needing to use such light line really killed my interest.  

[mod479]

Just picked up 2 of these spinbait80s, do you think you could add some suspend-strips for extra weight and get away with using heavier line? Might kill the action on the fall though...but gonna give these a shot anyways.

[CTGalloway21]

I think you use light line due to clear water.  I have 8 lb. fluoro on my spinning rods and I would just throw it on them. I am further north in Alabama now.  Neely Henry & Weiss are mudholes.  Most creeks can be clear but would get hung up too much.  

[Dwight Hottle]

I think you can go with 6lb or even 8lb mono & still be effective. Or 10lb braid or less with an appropriate leader.

[RoLo]

I think you can go with 6lb or even 8lb mono & still be effective. Or 10lb braid or less with an appropriate leader.

 

Dwight, do you ever use 10-lb braid tied directly to the lure without a nylon, fluoro or copoly leader?

 

Roger

[dreamertino]

Im thinking about fishing spybaits how do they work and how do you fish them.

[Dwight Hottle]

Dwight, do you ever use 10-lb braid tied directly to the lure without a nylon, fluoro or copoly leader?

Roger

Roger I always use a leader with 10 lb braid for visibility & abrasion and it adds a little stretch into the system.

[RoLo]

Roger I always use a leader with 10 lb braid for visibility & abrasion and it adds a little stretch into the system.

 

Thanx Dwight

[alexandboi]

Just picked up 2 of these spinbait80s, do you think you could add some suspend-strips for extra weight and get away with using heavier line? Might kill the action on the fall though...but gonna give these a shot anyways.

 

Why do you need the extra weight? I didn't get to fish them much, but they cast pretty well. IMO you should be fine with the regular weight.

 

I only used it on three or so outings with 8lb fluoro and it didn't seem to mess up the action, although I don't know if anything above that will hinder the action of it. 

[mod479]

Why do you need the extra weight? I didn't get to fish them much, but they cast pretty well. IMO you should be fine with the regular weight.

 

I only used it on three or so outings with 8lb fluoro and it didn't seem to mess up the action, although I don't know if anything above that will hinder the action of it. 

 

I'm not saying they need it, but his post made it seem like they were extremely lightweight or required a lighter line to get decent casting distane, but that is good to know, I cant wait to give them a try.

[Dwight Hottle]

I'm not saying they need it, but his post made it seem like they were extremely lightweight or required a lighter line to get decent casting distane, but that is good to know, I cant wait to give them a try.

 

The light line requirement is not for casting ease but to get the best action from the bait. The duo realis 80 weighs 3/8 oz & is 3 1/8" long.

[smalljaw67]

Adding any weight absolutely destroys the subtle action, think a stick with a prop at each end. I messed with it and here is what I can tell you, if you use braid you will need a leader, the hooks are designed for use with light line and with zero stretch you'll pull the hooks out for sure. Forget ultra light set ups, these are 3/8oz, I used it with 8lb mono, and fluorocarbon  as well as 6lb mono and fluorocarbon and there is a significant difference that can be seen in the action, I didn't believe it so that is why I tried it and I saw it with my own eyes, go 10lb fluorocarbon or mono and you may as well put it back in the box. From what I observed is these baits are very precisely balanced, anything heavier than 6lb line and the subtle roll you see goes away, it also lifts the bait quicker which I knew it would a bit but it had a bigger effect than I imagined. I believe 5lb is what they recommend because 4lb is really light for 3/8oz bait but using on 4lb is when you really understand why the light line, it has a distinct roll and going up to 6lb it still has the roll but it is less, and 8lb it almost eliminates it altogether. The only difference I got from fluorocarbon to mono was the bait was able to stay deeper on the retrieve, using mon the bait would come up quicker and it was a noticeable difference. I hate fluorocarbon but I think with the spinbait 80 or any other spy baits that it is an absolute must, even braid caused it to rise unless we used 20' of leader, and yes, 20 feet, I know it is exaggerated a bit but we stopped at 4' of leader and figured what is the sense of even using braid at all, so this is a fluorocarbon only technique, at least to make it work the way it is designed.

[Dwight Hottle]

Adding any weight absolutely destroys the subtle action, think a stick with a prop at each end. I messed with it and here is what I can tell you, if you use braid you will need a leader, the hooks are designed for use with light line and with zero stretch you'll pull the hooks out for sure. Forget ultra light set ups, these are 3/8oz, I used it with 8lb mono, and fluorocarbon  as well as 6lb mono and fluorocarbon and there is a significant difference that can be seen in the action, I didn't believe it so that is why I tried it and I saw it with my own eyes, go 10lb fluorocarbon or mono and you may as well put it back in the box. From what I observed is these baits are very precisely balanced, anything heavier than 6lb line and the subtle roll you see goes away, it also lifts the bait quicker which I knew it would a bit but it had a bigger effect than I imagined. I believe 5lb is what they recommend because 4lb is really light for 3/8oz bait but using on 4lb is when you really understand why the light line, it has a distinct roll and going up to 6lb it still has the roll but it is less, and 8lb it almost eliminates it altogether. The only difference I got from fluorocarbon to mono was the bait was able to stay deeper on the retrieve, using mon the bait would come up quicker and it was a noticeable difference. I hate fluorocarbon but I think with the spinbait 80 or any other spy baits that it is an absolute must, even braid caused it to rise unless we used 20' of leader, and yes, 20 feet, I know it is exaggerated a bit but we stopped at 4' of leader and figured what is the sense of even using braid at all, so this is a fluorocarbon only technique, at least to make it work the way it is designed.

 

 

Excellent observation & write up smalljaw67

[RoLo]

 

Adding any weight absolutely destroys the subtle action, think a stick with a prop at each end. I messed with it and here is what I can tell you, if you use braid you will need a leader, the hooks are designed for use with light line and with zero stretch you'll pull the hooks out for sure. Forget ultra light set ups, these are 3/8oz, I used it with 8lb mono, and fluorocarbon  as well as 6lb mono and fluorocarbon and there is a significant difference that can be seen in the action, I didn't believe it so that is why I tried it and I saw it with my own eyes, go 10lb fluorocarbon or mono and you may as well put it back in the box. From what I observed is these baits are very precisely balanced, anything heavier than 6lb line and the subtle roll you see goes away, it also lifts the bait quicker which I knew it would a bit but it had a bigger effect than I imagined. I believe 5lb is what they recommend because 4lb is really light for 3/8oz bait but using on 4lb is when you really understand why the light line, it has a distinct roll and going up to 6lb it still has the roll but it is less, and 8lb it almost eliminates it altogether. The only difference I got from fluorocarbon to mono was the bait was able to stay deeper on the retrieve, using mon the bait would come up quicker and it was a noticeable difference. I hate fluorocarbon but I think with the spinbait 80 or any other spy baits that it is an absolute must, even braid caused it to rise unless we used 20' of leader, and yes, 20 feet, I know it is exaggerated a bit but we stopped at 4' of leader and figured what is the sense of even using braid at all, so this is a fluorocarbon only technique, at least to make it work the way it is designed.

 

Intuitive Angling...keep it coming

 

Roger

[froggerbass]

if it's clear water you are lacking, smith lake has plenty.