Chronarch 50E Or Tatula R

[OkobojiEagle]

Yea, here's another one of these posts... the guys that are fed up with them, just ignore.

 

 

Smallmouth fishing, mostly clear lakes throwing baits that are primarily on the smaller size. 1/4 oz spinnerbaits, Wiggle Warts, Pointer 78s, 1/4 oz jigs, ect.  Need some distance away from the boat.  20lb. braid or less.

 

Both of these reels have been in your hands for a short while now, which do you like better, which do you think will be more trouble free over the coming decades.  No price discussion or where I can find one the cheapest please... just which one of these two reels you would chose to fish in my fishing situation.  Thanks.

 

oe

[mjseverson24]

for casting lighter baits I think the tatula has the one up because of the t-wing system allows less friction and better freespool operation. The choice between shimano and daiwa almost always boils down to solid proven designs by shimano that give very good reliable performance, or new cutting edge technology from daiwa that only time will tell if the design really is better than the conventional. ( i would still go with the tatula)

 

Mitch

[curtis9]

You should also look at the scorpion 1000xt. Same price as the chronarch, but should be better at casting smaller lures

[OkobojiEagle]

You should also look at the scorpion 1000xt. Same price as the chronarch, but should be better at casting smaller lures

 

 

I just want opinions on these two reels, thanks.

 

oe

[OkobojiEagle]

My previous response was not meant as a snarky reply.  I'll be using the "drippin's" from my wife's Cabela Visa card.  While the Scorpion would be a nice reel, it isn't available through Cabelas, so isn't a reel I'm looking at.

 

oe

[J Francho]

I haven't played with a Type R yet, but I'd take the 50 over a Tatula.

[Darren.]

Not sure if it matters, OE, but based on everything I've read, and photo comparisons I've seen, the Tatula will be quite a bit larger than the 50.

 

I was looking at the Tatula (and the R) but when I saw a side by side comparison with the Lexa, I was a bit put off.

 

That said, both my Chronarch 50e and Lexa fit my hands perfectly, with the 50e probably a bit moreso.

[kickerfish1]

I really think performance wise they are close. Obviously the highest factors to me would be weight of the reel in relationship to rod balance and reels size and profile in relationship to overall comfort. I don't think there is a wrong choice here. Personally I would select the chronarch 50 because I just prefer smaller and lighter weight reels as a whole. You may get a few feet more distance with the tatula but at the end of the day if you aren't comfortable palmimg it, the added distance may just not be worth the hassle.

If you are buying from a local Cabelas mount them both on rods and see what might feel right to you.

[bootytrain]

How far are you trying to cast? I've hit 100-110 ft with 1/4 oz plug which I measured out with a line counter with a curado 50. I don't think the type r has been out long enough.

[lmbfisherman]

I really think performance wise they are close. Obviously the highest factors to me would be weight of the reel in relationship to rod balance and reels size and profile in relationship to overall comfort. I don't think there is a wrong choice here. Personally I would select the chronarch 50 because I just prefer smaller and lighter weight reels as a whole. You may get a few feet more distance with the tatula but at the end of the day if you aren't comfortable palmimg it, the added distance may just not be worth the hassle.

If you are buying from a local Cabelas mount them both on rods and see what might feel right to you.

I concur with this statement 100%.

[QUAKEnSHAKE]

Going by spool weigh the CH50E has a BIG advantage CH50E spool 11.5grams the TAT spool 18grams. Thats 1/4oz difference the lighter lure has to overcome to get the spool started. If you go any lighter, I think the TT review mention, the Tat had a little trouble going below 1/4 lure weight.

 

Myself I would get a Tat just cause I had a Ch50 and have 2 other 50size shims so light end covered.

[iabass8]

Comfort wise i'd personally choose the 50 every time. i haven't fished the tatula but i've mounted it on a rod in store and held in every which way in my palms and i just couldn't get used to the width and i have pretty big hands.  just about all my reels are 50 size though. i did buy the t3 ballistic and while it isn't the tatula, it does have the twing and it does casts very very well. it's not the 50 size but it feels smaller than a 200 on a rod. i'd recommend putting the reel on the rod you want to use it for first. I hated how the t3 and tatula felt on my st. croix LTB rods but the t3(cabelas didn't have dobyns for me to compare the tatula) felt perfect on my dobyns /w the trigger being a in a better position to palm. for casting lightweight baits, i would again choose the 50 size shimano. once you clean and lube these reels up they will get the distance you want. with the baits you mentioned the 50 shimano would be a no brainer for me.

[OkobojiEagle]

Size does matter and ultimately I'm going to handle each of them as suggested.  I want to walk up to the counter with a bias already in mind.  I don't want the salesman at the counter to have the upper hand and send me home with HIS favorite for fishing "walleye".

 

 

oe

[Hi Salenity]

I have the new "R" but I haven't got to fish with it yet. It is 8.1 gear ratio and I like that but if your concern is durability I'd say Chronarch.

[Hogsticker]

For those weights and the comfort factor I would go with the 50 size reel

[21farms]

oe, i have the chronarch 50E and the regular tatula. for "smallmouth fishing in mostly clear lakes throwing baits that are primarily on the smaller size" at "some distance away from the boat" and using "20lb. braid or less", i'd choose the chronarch every time. the 50E handles smaller diameter lines great, palms better in your hand, and is lighter. you'll also have a variety of ways to upgrade the reel for even better performance. i put in a lightweight yumeya shallow spool on mine which transforms it into a finesse fishing machine while also being an incredible pitchin' reel. regarding your stated desire for something reliable, the shimano is well-known for that...the tatula's T-wing? well, that's a pretty major moving part there and it only came out so it has not been time-tested yet.

[tomustang]

What really comes into play is the size and weight. Do you want a heavy full size reel or do you want a light small reel?

They are two totaly different reels, Even if I wanted one or the other you couldn't compare them both, one holds 90yds of 14lb and the other at 120yds, then 5.9 vs 7.6 in weight

If you're going for smaller lures, go with a smaller reel

[Trey Harpel]

out of those 2 go with the 50 reel OR get a Daiwa Alphas...

[Smallmouth Hunter]

You should also look at the scorpion 1000xt. Same price as the chronarch, but should be better at casting smaller lures

Not sure what makes you think the scorpion is a better caster than the chronarch.. Last time I checked, they were the almost identical aside from the paint job and a minor detail or two.. The spools are identical.

 

I have the new "R" but I haven't got to fish with it yet. It is 8.1 gear ratio and I like that but if your concern is durability I'd say Chronarch.

Statistically, the tatula is more durable since it has an aluminum gear side side-plate and the Chronarch's gear side is graphite. I have held and used both reels, and the tatula feels more solid and durable in my hands.

 

 

 

I would go with the 50e because of what quakenshake said: the spool is heavy (18g or 19g) on the tatula and holds a lot of line. Line weighs a good bit so with a full spool of line you're lookin at about 23+ grams for the spool itself (estimate, I have no idea HM it would weigh exactly). The 50e spool is lighter to begin with (13 or so grams if I remember correctly) and hold less line so it would weigh in around 15-16 or maybe a bit more with line on.

 

The tatula is excellent for lures in the 3/8+ range, but average for weights below that. It is not bad at casting 3/16 oz or 1/4, but it does not excel either.

[aavery2]

The type r spool is just a little over 16grams, and in my hands will cast a 1/4 oz bait 40 yards with little effort, it is also good at a 1/8th oz and I was able to get casts of 30 yards with little problem. The frame is much larger than the 50e and it weighs about 7.7 oz . I prefer the 16 lbs of stock drag pressure, the 90mm handle length, and the smoothness of the Tatula. I also prefer mag force z to centrifugal braking.

If I were looking for a finesse type reel it would not be the Tatula as there are better reels for this. Based on size and weight alone I would go with the 50e if it were my only other choice.

[Virtuoso]

Haven't fished the tatula. But I wont give up my 50es. I've always thought of the tatula with its heavier spool being a better distance caster for heavier baits, whereas, the 50e would be more efficient at lighter baits. Then again I haven't fished the type r

Honestly, not very many reels have trouble casting a 3/8oz bait.

[OkobojiEagle]

I appreciate everyone's input... thanks guys.

 

oe