Super User J Francho Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 I recommend a muffin pan to hold parts from each subassembly. Like this: 1 Quote
Bass Junkie Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 I recommend a muffin pan to hold parts from each subassembly. Like this: Very nice! And a great approach as well, it's much more difficult to lose parts this way versus a flat surface I have always loved the look of the Vientos. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 They aren't my favorite to assemble, lol. Quote
Bass Junkie Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 They aren't my favorite to assemble, lol. I can imagine, especially with the Twitchin' Bar assembly They still look good enough that I consider picking one up every now and then. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Get a red Smak Tune. Way cooler. 1 Quote
Bass Junkie Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Get a red Smak Tune. Way cooler. And probably somewhat easier to acquire in new shape too... Thanks for the idea Quote
Bass Junkie Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Yummy! Now THAT is a gorgeous combo Quote
Loop_Dad Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 I'm new to baitcasters, just got my first one this year. I'd like to give it a good cleaning and such, but I've never done it, and I'm a bit intimidated by it. Are there any great instructions/videos on how to do that? Maybe you guys could help out. What are the parts I need to oil vs what parts to grease? How do you flush and re-lube sideplate and spool bearings? Anything else I've missed I should do? Thanks, I'd like to get my reel in great shape before next season hits me. I did my first flush and lube this summer and since then I did all 7 BCs I have. After first one, the rest is easy. When I did my first one, the spring flew away and spacer behind the bearing misplaced (and didn't know that was missing for awhile.) So until you get proficient doing this, find yourself nice clean desk with lots of lights and concentrate on what you are doing. Also study the schematics of the reel. Rippling-lips can do while he watches TV because he knows what he's doing. Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted December 12, 2013 Super User Posted December 12, 2013 Question is, who's doing the laundry? Sounds like the washer is going in the background..... Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 12, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 12, 2013 I'm doing laundry. I'm standing in front of it in the video. Quote
Delaware Valley Tackle Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 I can imagine, especially with the Twitchin' Bar assembly They still look good enough that I consider picking one up every now and then. If given a choice I'll assemble 10 twitchin' bar reels over 1 flippin'switch Quote
The Rooster Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 I usually use an old white T shirt or a dish towel to lay parts on while cleaning a reel. The grease on them makes them stick to the cloth and not slide or roll around so nothing gets lost. I clean each piece thoroughly and reassemble the reel one part at a time so there is no residue of cloth fibers on the parts. Also those two cloth choices keep fuzz to a minimum on any parts anyway, plus they give me a place to wipe my greasy tools and fingers off on, and the white color makes parts show up easily against it so I don't miss a piece. I lay all parts out in order of the way they came off so reassembly is just the reverse order of how they're laid out. I couldn't use a muffin pan unless I knew COLD where every part went and in what order, which I don't. It would jumble the parts up too much for me and I'd have something reassembled wrong. But doing it this way I also don't need schematics, which also means I can do any reel of any brand or model, even if I've never seen it before, and also while watching TV. However, this method also takes me about an hour or more per reel. I don't mind this but I only try to do one per day due to the time. I clean 5 for myself, sometimes more, and usually one or two for a friend each year. Quote
The Rooster Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Also, when removing springs under tension, use a white plastic bag and put the reel inside it. If the spring flies off unexpectedly, it will stay inside the bag hopefully. Saves a lot of stress this way. White bags make finding it easier too. Or use a gallon sized freezer bag so you can see through it. Might be harder to get two hands inside to work but it saves your neck and back trying to scrunch down to see inside a bag to work. The only other choice is to be really careful, or work in a solid white room with no furniture, lots of light, and have a big magnet to find that tiny spring after it goes airborne. LOL Edited December 12, 2013 by The Rooster 1 Quote
The Rooster Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 One final tip that's easier said than done with greasy fingers is to take cell phone pics as you go. If you forget how a part goes on it helps to have a photograph to refresh your memory. I get more from pics than I do schematics since it shows it assembled instead of blown up. Quote
Preytorien Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 Great advice. Also, I saw an older post that Francho wrote a while back concerning cleaning and re-lubing. I'll be using this as a guide for sure. Thanks Francho! "Pull the spool tension cap and friction spring to get to bearing part #4343. You should be able to get it off without removing the handle or star drag - just position the points of the star on either side of the cap. Then open the palm side plate, and gently pry off the bearing retainer clip part # 32 to get to the second spool bearing part #4343. I good tip to remove that retainer clip is to do inside a big ziploc bag. They have a tendency to go flying! Soak them in acetone in a small glass jar. Swirl them occasionally, and check for bits of junk in the acetone. Change out the acetone until no more junk floats in the acetone. Pull them, let them dry for ten minutes or so on some paper towel, then give them a ten minute bath in 70% rubbing alcohol. Pull them out, and let them dry again for ten minutes or so. Add one drop of Bantam Oil to the inner edge of the race, and gently spin the bearing on a pencil to distribute the oil. Let them sit on paper towel for another ten minutes to let any excess oil drain. Reinstall the bearings, putting the parts in reverse order that you removed them. Lastly, do not oil the brake drum. It may work great at first, but the oil will degrade in this application, and get a little sticky. I prefer the brake race simply be clean. Dip a cotton swab in rubbing alcohol, and gently clean the inside race." Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted December 12, 2013 Super User Posted December 12, 2013 I'm doing laundry. I'm standing in front of it in the video. Your wife has you trained like mine has me ?!?!?! The Horror! Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 12, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 12, 2013 Your wife has you trained like mine has me ?!?!?! The Horror! Not married here. That's why I'm doing my own laundry haha. Quote
Super User DogBone_384 Posted December 12, 2013 Super User Posted December 12, 2013 Not married here. That's why I'm doing my own laundry haha. I've got it good: wife is from Philippines. I do laundry because we both work 2 jobs.... Quote
Trey Harpel Posted December 12, 2013 Posted December 12, 2013 After speaking with Trey Harpel of Threeltuning I've been told that a 3x8x4 bearing will replace that busing. Just so happens I have one out of my zillion since I upgraded to boca os bearings. It fits and I could tell a small difference just by spinning the handle. yup it works! ALWAYS good to clean a brand new reel as they just dump oil and grease from factory is some reels(shimano more so then Daiwas) from my experiance.. Lexa is a solid reel and you would love the tatula.. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 13, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 13, 2013 I plan on getting one before next spring. I'm holding off just incase Santa brings me one lol Quote
MacP Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I picked up a mint Abu 6501 C3 from a forum member today at a great price. First thing I did when I got home was take that sucker appart, take old grease out, put new grease and lube on her. Cleaned up the excess and watched her spin. It was a three fold improvement over the condition I got her in. Which was pretty much stock and slightly used. Now, I gotta get a power handle so I can fight those muskys Quote
Bass Junkie Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 If given a choice I'll assemble 10 twitchin' bar reels over 1 flippin'switch Really? I've maintenanced several Quantum's with the Flippin' Switch and never had too many issues. Frustrating yes, but not what I would anticipate the Twitchin' Bar being Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 13, 2013 Super User Posted December 13, 2013 The Twitchin' bar is just a second handle/main gear, with an AR bearing attached. Lots of parts, but doesn't require three hands, and five opposable thumbs to get the side plate back on, lol. Quote
daiwaguy Posted December 13, 2013 Posted December 13, 2013 I recommend a muffin pan to hold parts from each subassembly. Like this: I should send you a few of my Viento reels. I havent attempted them because of the Twitchin Bar. LOL. I like your idea here. Quote
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