Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 I've seen a few posts about aftermarket bearings,new reels not casting well ect. A properly cleaned and lubed reel will give you good gains alone. I took this last minute today after servicing my reels. Stock daiwa lexa 100 vs the same reel after a complete tear down and cleaning. Adding grease to the gears and moving parts. Flushing and re oiling all the bearing and a drop or 2 to the worm gear. Sorry if this is in the wrong place. Also I don't do this for a living so I'm sure someone like DVT or Trey could get you even more out of your reel with their services. This is also a $90-100 reel which I figured would be a better comparison then other higher end Daiwas I have. 1 Quote
MacP Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 Dude, are you me? My wife disagrees, but I think your voice sounds like mine. Maybe, the voice I hear in my head at least. Thanks for the video. I think it's impressive how well reels can work with just a simple cleaning. With some fine sand paper, good grease and good oil and 10 minutes to spare, you can make nearly any stock reel perform better! Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Dude, are you me? My wife disagrees, but I think your voice sounds like mine. Maybe, the voice I hear in my head at least. Thanks for the video. I think it's impressive how well reels can work with just a simple cleaning. With some fine sand paper, good grease and good oil and 10 minutes to spare, you can make nearly any stock reel perform better! Haha as far as I know I'm me. In my head my voice sounds different then what I hear on recordings. I haven't tried sanding on anything because I don't wanna screw it up. Yeah I just use reel butter and lightning oil. This reel doesn't have a bearing supporting the spool shaft where it goes in under the tension cap either. I'm thinking of trying to locate one that'll fit. Should make it feel a bit better. Quote
MacP Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 I use Reel Butter Grease and Oil and Lucas Oil Reel Oil. No complaints from them. I sand spool edges mostly. Sometimes, I'll polish drags too. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 After speaking with Trey Harpel of Threeltuning I've been told that a 3x8x4 bearing will replace that busing. Just so happens I have one out of my zillion since I upgraded to boca os bearings. It fits and I could tell a small difference just by spinning the handle. Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Humm, I see what the places your making gains and they are great however I like to grease those spots. If I just use oil on the gears by the end of the year they would be out of oil? Or at least I'd think? I'd concentrate on the bearings and and spool shaft that is going to give you your gains in casting Flush your bearings then Add 1 drop of oil and clean the spool shaft and leave it dry. I'll try and find the link to the shimano video it's helpfull to get one tuned up... Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Lots of good info Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Humm, I see what the places your making gains and they are great however I like to grease those spots. If I just use oil on the gears by the end of the year they would be out of oil? Or at least I'd think? I'd concentrate on the bearings and and spool shaft that is going to give you your gains in casting Flush your bearings then Add 1 drop of oil and clean the spool shaft and leave it dry. I'll try and find the link to the shimano video it's helpfully to get one tuned up... That video is the basic stuff that at a minimum anglers should do to their reels. Along with flushing the side plate and spool bearing. I'm also not a fan of q-tips because they can leave fibers behind. I use these foam applicators women use for eye shadow. Just for peace of mind. Might be overkill but oh well. Also never did I say I use oil on the gears. Only gear that gets oil and not grease,is the worm gear. That's because grease attracts dirt and the worm gear is open to the elements. Main gear and moving parts like the pinion gear,yoke,ect get grease. Bearings get flushed and re oiled. That's a good series of videos though that should help a beginner not be so scared to do their own maintenance. Quote
thehooligan Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 First thing i do when i buy a reel is clean it, the makeup applicators is a good idea. The qtips do break down pretty quickly. I should start cleaning stock bearings, ive got so used to just buying boca os bearings, and i just picked up a set of the hawgtechs to try... Quote
Super User Hi Salenity Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 My fault I assumed you just oiled the gears and that's why it was running so free... I have a new Tatula R that I need to clean, I'm not looking forward to it it's not one of my favorite things to do but with hard water it's something to do... Like I need another project. 1 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Not looking forward to it? Only take you 15-20 minutes. I love toying with my reels. I sit down in front of the tv and do it during the games on Sunday. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 My fault I assumed you just oiled the gears and that's why it was running so free... I have a new Tatula R that I need to clean, I'm not looking forward to it it's not one of my favorite things to do but with hard water it's something to do... Like I need another project. That's what a properly greased/oiled reel does. Not looking forward to it? Will only take you 15-20 minutes. I love toying with my reels. I sit down in front of the tv and do it during the games on Sunday and Monday. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 First thing i do when i buy a reel is clean it, the makeup applicators is a good idea. The qtips do break down pretty quickly. I should start cleaning stock bearings, ive got so used to just buying boca os bearings, and i just picked up a set of the hawgtechs to try... I wanted to try them out but they didn't carry the 3x8x4 for my zillion so I had to go with bocas. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 EXCELLENT demonstration! This is a video I took of a properly greased and oiled reel after full cleaning. A tip about grease applicators: trim fibers of a small art paint brush down to about 1/8". I find that a flat, somewhat stif bristle brush around 1/4" wide works best for greasing gear teeth. As far as cleaning the reels, I completely disassemble every single part, and scrub them using a degreaser and toothbrush. About the only thing I use a Q-tip for is to get the last bits of junk out of small round or tubular parts. The parts rinsed thoroughly , so I'm not worried about cotton fibers. Here's a reel that pretty much behaved like rippin-lip's before reel. Dramatic, to say the least. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Yeah same here. A mix of purple power and some water plus a toothbrush. I'll have to try the paintbrush tip. Sounds like it might work a bit better. Quote
Super User rockchalk06 Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Excellent info and video guys. I remember that video Franco. That is what made my start cleaning my own reels. Not to take away from DVT or any other pro tuners. Cleaning and properly lubing it will make it literally feel like brand new reel provided nothing else is wrong. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Mike at DVT and I are friends offline. We chat on the phone regularly, and we pretty much do the same thing to the reels. I don't do too much outside of my own reels and a few friends anymore. If I didn't clean them myself, I'd trust Mike with my gear. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 Yeah same here. A mix of purple power and some water plus a toothbrush. I'll have to try the paintbrush tip. Sounds like it might work a bit better. I like Purple Power, but here's something I found to be quicker and more powerful. Wear dish gloves though, unless you want dishpan hands. Seriously, it's rough on the skin, though claims to be non irritating. https://induscoltd.com/shop_now/?slug=product_info.php&cPath=22_25&products_id=51 Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 I might give that a shot too. Yeah they say the same about purple power but if you ever used it full strength you know it dries your hands out bad. I swish all my parts in a jar of alcohol after I scrub them with pp just to remove any residue. The reel in your video flies. Makes mine look like it was never cleaned haha. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted December 11, 2013 Super User Posted December 11, 2013 It's 100% stock. No polishing or tuning. I used the Bantam Oil that comes with the reel. Nothing fancy. Funny part is, this was not the best performing reel. I kept the best of four Chronarchs for myself. That reel really flies..... Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 It's impressive to say the least. Quote
Preytorien Posted December 11, 2013 Posted December 11, 2013 I'm new to baitcasters, just got my first one this year. I'd like to give it a good cleaning and such, but I've never done it, and I'm a bit intimidated by it. Are there any great instructions/videos on how to do that? Maybe you guys could help out. What are the parts I need to oil vs what parts to grease? How do you flush and re-lube sideplate and spool bearings? Anything else I've missed I should do? Thanks, I'd like to get my reel in great shape before next season hits me. Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 I'm new to baitcasters, just got my first one this year. I'd like to give it a good cleaning and such, but I've never done it, and I'm a bit intimidated by it. Are there any great instructions/videos on how to do that? Maybe you guys could help out. What are the parts I need to oil vs what parts to grease? How do you flush and re-lube sideplate and spool bearings? Anything else I've missed I should do? Thanks, I'd like to get my reel in great shape before next season hits me. No need to be intimidated by it. Yes the first time it can seem like it's hard but honestly there's not much to a reel. #1 have the schematic out. #2 lay the parts out as the come off. Bearings get oil and the worm gear. Gears get grease along with moving parts. The side plate bearing comes out. The spool bearing comes off with the proper tool. If not you can use a soda cap and sit it down inside of it. Not optimal but it'll work. I scrub all my parts with a toothbrush and degreaser. Rinse them and let them dry. This link is just the basics and will be enough to help your reel perform better. http://www.tackletour.com/articlereelmaintenancedaiwatdsol.html Quote
Super User rippin-lips Posted December 11, 2013 Author Super User Posted December 11, 2013 This is a great video that'll show you what needs to be done. Warning this is as far down as you can get a reel. You don't have to go quite this in depth to improve your reels performance. Quote
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