aceman387 Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 Last night i started reading up on drop shotting and stumbled upon an article about an alternative called double drop shotting.How it works is you would use something like a fluke on an offset hook "up" the line and to use a jig or weighted tube on the bottom in place of a sinker on the end of the line.Two depths can be covered with this targeting bass on the bottom as well as above.Drop shotting is a new method i plan on trying next time i go out and i was curious about this method .Any of you guys tried drop shotting this way? Quote
Super User NorcalBassin Posted October 30, 2010 Super User Posted October 30, 2010 If I'm searching for a bite I'll put a 1/8 oz jig on with a trailer instead of a weight... 2's better than 1 sometimes. However, if I'm working rocky areas I'll usually stick with a Mojo weight to decrease snags. Try it, you may even get a double hookup! Quote
Super User SirSnookalot Posted October 30, 2010 Super User Posted October 30, 2010 Been doing something similar for ages, drop fly rig. I put an x-rap or facsimile on the bottom of the main leader and 1/2 way up I tie a leader and fly. give the appearance of a bait fish chasing a meal which attracts fish, many doubles caught. Works for bass as well as inshore saltwater species. I may substitute a windcheater for the x-rap and plastic fluke for the fly Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 30, 2010 Super User Posted October 30, 2010 Stacking was a presentation out west as back as the early 80's; using a bell sinker with swivel and 2 ganion octopus or sealy hooks with worms, exactly the same as today's drop shot rig. Using a jig for the weight was another adaption, except with one dropper worm. Nothing new and lots of tournament were won using this "secret rig". WRB Quote
Casca Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 i've tried a drop-shot with a jig underneath it but the hook set for a d/s is a lot different than the hook set for a jig. a sweep and reel set might not do for a bite on my jig,resulting in a lost fish. also if you try and bury the hook for a jig bite you might snap the typically light d/s line. i'll fish with two combos, a d/s and a jig and see what the fish want then go with that one. so guys,what am i missing? i'm sure this technique works for others but it just seems like two polar opposing techniques. i'm more comfortable picking one or the other. regards, Casca Quote
Super User David P Posted October 30, 2010 Super User Posted October 30, 2010 You can always shaky head with the bottom, as that's a lighter line technique then jigs for the most part. Quote
Casca Posted October 30, 2010 Posted October 30, 2010 a shaky head on the bottom,makes a lot more sense to me. thanks David. regards, Casca Quote
Super User WRB Posted October 30, 2010 Super User Posted October 30, 2010 The shaky head jig is simply a jig & worm on a round head jig and is a good combination for stacking. The trick is the knot used on the drop shot hook and learning to reel set. The Palomar knot tends to weaken the tag end of the line and doesn't work good for the double rig. The SD jam or nail knots both work good. Sometimes it's better to use a dart head for a swimming the worm and fish the drop shot separately. The stacking rig is a good search tool and makes it faster to determine what is the preferred color. WRB Quote
Super User Sam Posted October 31, 2010 Super User Posted October 31, 2010 This is the pros' secret. It has been around for a while. Give it a try. Quote
Super User J Francho Posted October 31, 2010 Super User Posted October 31, 2010 You'll need to use a an offset weedless hook so you can use the same hookset, not knowing what bait is getting bit. You can't reel set a jig. You also want to be pretty careful with your knots. My experience has been that the tag end of a Palomar knot gets mangled, if tied correctly, and its a weak spot in the system. Quote
s13john Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 ive done it with 2 roboworms on octopus hooks with 2 palomor knots Quote
River Rat316 Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 As with everything that sounds good it is not legal in Minnesota, would be considered 2 lines > Quote
airborne_angler Posted October 31, 2010 Posted October 31, 2010 Ive tried using a Finesse Jig with a Craw Trailer on the bottom,and a Reaper(Leech) up above that. Caught fish on mostly the Leech,but did manage one fish on the jig. Ive thought about using 2 octopus hooks with the weight below and the hooks spaced maybe 4" apart but havent tried it. The whole Jig and Octopus hook gets a little confusing for me as I cant wrap my head around which one to focus the action on,the Jig,or the Dropshot. If I focus on the DS,I may give too much,too little or the wrong action to the Jig and Vice Versa. The hooksets for the DS are different from the Jig as well. Its said that with the DS,a hard hookset isnt necessary,but I believe with the Jig you gotta cross their eyes. So If I "think" the fish is hitting the DS and I give a gentle hookset,and the fish was actually on the Jig,which requires a harder hookset,In theory,Id miss more fish like that. Quote
Super User WRB Posted November 1, 2010 Super User Posted November 1, 2010 If you are using a sharp hook on the jig a reel set; keeping rod down, cranking the reel fast, loading up the hook point and rod, then sweep setting the rod, you will rarely miss a deep water jig fish or a drop shot fish. You can also use a weedless drop shot hook like Gamakatsu offers or skin hook the worm on a Owner down shot off-set hook. California allows 2 hooks or lures on 1 line for fresh water fishing, otherwise you could stack more than 2. WRB Quote
Taylor Fishin 4 life Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Hmm here is another way to dropshot if your getting into it. I pitch and flip a drop shot in cypress roots alot. I use a regular tru tungsten 1/2 to 3/4 ounce for the bottom except put the weight upside down. I have had good success with craws, trickworms, lizards, and brushogs dropshotting like this. I use a stout hook with 65 lb braid with a 7 foot heavy rod. This setup also works well with hyancinths which is just a type of aquactic vegatation which floats on top and is clear for the most part underneath it. Anyway to answer your question you could probably modify this and have a texas rigged craw on the bottom with a beaver or something and something else above I dont know just ideas is all. Quote
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